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Computer Simulation Has Taiwan Beating China in War, Taiwanese Military Says

 
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Computer Simulation Has Taiwan Beating China in War, Taiwanese Military Says
Computer Simulation Has Taiwan Beating China in War, Taiwanese Military Says
Tuesday, April 24, 2007

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TAIPEI, Taiwan A computer simulation projected that China could land forces on rival Taiwan, but they would be repulsed after two weeks of fierce fighting and harsh losses to both sides, Taiwan's military said Tuesday.

The complex simulation involved a scenario of China invading the island, 100 miles off its coast, in 2012.

Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949, but Beijing regards Taiwan as Chinese territory. The computer scenario was based on China's repeated threats to attack if Taiwan ever tries to formalize its de facto independence.

The military released its findings from the simulation to reporters on Tuesday.

In the simulation, Chinese ships ferry forces to the island, backed by heavy missile barrages and pinpoint air strikes on Taiwanese military bases and other strategic facilities.

The "invaders" establish beachheads along Taiwan's west coast, though their arrival is delayed for several days by Taiwanese missile strikes on mainland military bases, and by Taiwanese navy counterattacks.

The simulation has western Taiwan radar stations, missile bases and airports taking a heavy pounding, but ground forces hold down casualty numbers by taking cover in specially prepared areas.


After two weeks of fierce fighting, Taiwan's army corners and destroys the mainland Chinese invaders.

Taiwanese Lt. Gen. Hsu Tai-sheng said the simulation highlighted shortcomings in the island's military preparedness.

"The Chinese communists pose a severe threat to our naval vessels with their superior submarines," Hsu said. "And as their jet fighters far outnumber ours, we would suffer great damage to our air force."

He also said Taiwan's anti-missile and anti-submarine capabilities seemed hard-pressed to deal with the threats they face from China's continuing military buildup.

The computer simulation envisioned no role for the United States in the fighting, Hsu said, despite American hints that Washington would come to Taiwan's aid if China attacks.

While the U.S. transferred its diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, it continues to supply Taiwan with the majority of its imported weaponry.

The self-governing, democratic island significantly boosted its air defense capability in the 1990s by acquiring French-made Mirage and U.S.-made F-16 fighters.

But Taiwan's plans to buy 66 relatively advanced F-16s were recently put on hold, partly because of Washington's pique over the opposition-controlled legislature's refusal to fund a $15 billion acquisition of U.S.-made submarines, submarine-hunting aircraft and Patriot missiles.

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Rotfl I can see Bush telling Taiwan to keep China busy while we get the oil!

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bushfing ohyeah
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Yeah right!

Even if the chinese soldiers were armed with dull butter knives, they can overwhelm Taiwan by sheer numbers alone!
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The chinese must be idiots, how much fucking land space do they need??? its not like their running out,, they might aswell just donate Tiwan them and leave em to it. Save the trouble.
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They obvious have some good drugs in their war planning rooms.
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This is the same simulation that predicts Global Warming.
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The Taiwanese Military has a right to dream like everybody does :)
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USA has given Taiwan and former soviet states state of art WMDS to kick China and Russias @$$ lmao
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I have a computer simulation where I, Chuck, kicks the crap out of Chuck Liddell. I think if I can change a few algorithms, I think I can simulate me, Chuck, kicking Chuck Norris's ass. Well, the second one might be hard because I did hear this story: Chuck Norris appeared in the "Street Fighter II" video game, but was removed by Beta Testers because every button caused him to do a roundhouse kick. When asked bout this "glitch," Norris replied, "That's no glitch."
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Rotfl I can see Bush telling Taiwan to keep China busy while
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

While we get who's oil?

China needs much more oil on a daily basis. Somehow this may play into one of the reasons why we are over there in the ME.
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It's a reasonable simulation. China's problem is that it doesn't have a large or powerful enough navy and airforce, YET, to overcome Taiwan, even without American interference. They're working on changing that.
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It's a reasonable simulation. China's problem is that it doesn't have a large or powerful enough navy and airforce, YET, to overcome Taiwan, even without American interference. They're working on changing that.
 Quoting: beezle



yes i read that china will have the largest naval force in teh world in less than five years

don't forget Cosco, i believe they are the largest ocean shipping company in the world

and those freighters can haul soldiers
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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Taiwan Beating China in War ? ? ?

riiiiiight
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THE TOP TEN CHUCK NORRIS FACTS:01 Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.
02 Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice.
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05 Chuck Norris sold his soul to the devil for his rugged good looks and unparalleled martial arts ability. Shortly after the transaction was finalized, Chuck roundhouse kicked the devil in the face and took his soul back. The devil, who appreciates irony, couldn't stay mad and admitted he should have seen it coming. They now play poker every second Wednesday of the month.
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[link to www.thechucknorrisfacts.com]

applause2
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Chuck Norris does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Chuck Norris goes killing.

omg! that is sooooo cool! lmao
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Taiwan would crush China in a short term, homeland defensive battle.

If China is allowed to continue their radical construction plan of armored and weaponized troop transport ships, then Taiwan may have a problem.

Fortunately, it does not matter. China is not allowed to touch Taiwan and has agreed not to do so. The bluster is designed for public consumption and military pride, rather than martial action.
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Hello, Taiwan; biased much?
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Taiwan would crush China in a short term, homeland defensive battle.

If China is allowed to continue their radical construction plan of armored and weaponized troop transport ships, then Taiwan may have a problem.

Fortunately, it does not matter. China is not allowed to touch Taiwan and has agreed not to do so. The bluster is designed for public consumption and military pride, rather than martial action.
 Quoting: 535 220578



says who? i think china will do as it pleases, when it pleases
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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Asinine

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Would this be the Bagdad Bob computer model?
"It is surprising that supposedly intelligent people can make such asinine statements." -Definition of Asinine, www.Dictionary.com

It's all a farce; and, the joke is on all of us.
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We get the Oil? Well you know Bush is all over that.

bump 4 Oil,
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WE say. There is no difference whatsoever at the supranational level. We act in unison and allow principalities to speak unfettered. China does not exactly do as it is told, but rather furthering the planetary agenda, of which it is a part.

This is required in order to further the illusion of choice, national boundaries, and free will.
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Taiwan Beating China in War ? ? ?

riiiiiight
 Quoting: DanG 205167


Repelling an invasion of Taiwan, not beating China in total war.
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Why won't Taiwan obtain nukes?

That'll deter any potential Chinese aggression real quick.
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Why won't Taiwan obtain nukes?

That'll deter any potential Chinese aggression real quick.
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maybe they could borrow some from israel, since they have the third largest stockpile in the world, way more than china
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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According to simulations which I have run, I can personally lead either the Empire or the Rebellion to victory 8 out of 9 times so long as I keep it at medium difficulty.

I have also simulated the defeat of Combine forces within City 17 (although it appears the city is no longer inhabited).
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Errrr, nobody wins in a full out "new clear" war. Except for the pscycopaths in the bunkers.

And to claim thier "computer" said they would win is just insane.

Oh, it's all these 30 year old World of War Craft gamers that played it out "online". Makes perfect sense now.
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Taiwon will nuke a billion chinese to hell an only lose a few thousand of their own,but it will be called a loss because they tried to implement a democracy in a third world country an they laughed hehehe





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