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Gun was NOT the problem, Sheriff office failed

 
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The timeline of occurrences at the end are chilling. Startling that the gun gets the (Knee Jerk) blame when the Sheriff's Office failed to recognize this kid had serious problems.

Less than 50%, I hope..

- Feb. 5, 2016: A Broward Sheriff’s Office deputy is told by an anonymous caller that Nikolas Cruz, then 17, had threatened on Instagram to shoot up his school and posted a photo of himself with guns. The information is forwarded to BSO Deputy Scot Peterson, a school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

- Sept. 23, 2016: A “peer counselor” reports to Peterson that Cruz had possibly ingested gasoline in a suicide attempt, was cutting himself and wanted to buy a gun. A mental health counselor advises against involuntarily committing Cruz. The high school says it will conduct a threat assessment.

- Sept. 28, 2016: An investigator for the Florida Department of Children and Families rules Cruz is stable, despite “fresh cuts” on his arms. His mother, Lynda Cruz, says in the past he wrote a racial slur against African Americans on his book bag and had recently talked of buying firearms.

- Sept. 24, 2017: A YouTube user named “nikolas cruz” posts a comment stating he wants to become a “professional school shooter.” The comment is reported to the FBI in Mississippi, which fails to make the connection to Cruz in South Florida.

- Nov. 1, 2017: Katherine Blaine, Lynda Cruz’s cousin, calls BSO to report that Nikolas Cruz had weapons and asks that police recover them. A “close family friend” agrees to take the firearms, according to BSO.

- Nov. 29, 2017: The Palm Beach County family that took in Cruz after the death of his mother calls the Palm Beach Sheriff’s Office to report a fight between him and their son, 22. A member of the family says that Cruz had threatened to “get his gun and come back” and that he has “put the gun to others’ heads in the past.” The family does not want him arrested once he calms down.

- Nov. 30, 2017: A caller from Massachusetts calls BSO to report that Cruz is collecting guns and knives and could be a “school shooter in the making.” A BSO deputy advises the caller to contact the Palm Beach sheriff.

- Jan. 5, 2018: A caller to the FBI’s tip line reports that Cruz has “a desire to kill people” and could potentially conduct a school shooting. The information is never passed on to the FBI’s office in Miami.

- Feb. 14, 2018: Nikolas Cruz attacks Stoneman Douglas High. Peterson, the school’s resource officer, draws his gun outside the building where Cruz is shooting students and staff. He does not enter.
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FBI knew all about it and let it Happen!
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What about the foster parents

The dad looks pretty shady. And who believes that a gun safe only has one key? A military guy should know this, that a safe would have a spare key.
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Re: Gun was NOT the problem, Sheriff office failed
...And, then watch how smug and tough he is talking about gun control, when he knew damn well his office was to blame.



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Society failed. Teach your kids to think for themselves and teach them discipline. The youth is a bunch of punk cowards with no direction.
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...And, then watch how smug and tough he is talking about gun control, when he knew damn well his office was to blame.



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...And, then watch how smug and tough he is talking about gun control, when he knew damn well his office was to blame.



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ugh, I tried.. Someone else post this Youtube linkif you can
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...And, then watch how smug and tough he is talking about gun control, when he knew damn well his office was to blame.



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ugh, I tried.. Someone else post this Youtube linkif you can
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Think I got the hang of this..

Sheriff claiming we need more gun control:

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FBI knew all about it and let it Happen!
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When will everyone learn it is time to end it all. You can't keep placing your hope into a system that doesn't work!

Pieces of paper don't make up a society! They really don't. When your society has failed you then it is time for a reset.
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FBI Director on news tonight admitted they broke all

protocols in not taking the suspect down.

Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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FBI knew all about it and let it Happen!
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I am an optimist, I would rather believe they were just ignorant of the warning signs instead of just "letting it happen"

But after reading that article, I may change my mind..
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This is the real problem. Seems everyone knew this idiot was one step away from the edge, and did nothing. Sherriff failed
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Re: Gun was NOT the problem, Sheriff office failed
This is the real problem. Seems everyone knew this idiot was one step away from the edge, and did nothing. Sherriff failed
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They will fail again and again and again.

Nothing is going to change folks! Quit holding on to false hope. The time has come. It truly has come to pass! When society stops caring about its future(children) then its time for a reset so it can relearn what is lost.
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This is the real problem. Seems everyone knew this idiot was one step away from the edge, and did nothing. Sherriff failed
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Agreed. The FBI had just a whiff of this F@#kTard, but the Broward Sheriff Office had a considerable amount of interaction with him and failed. Which is why I think he was so combative in that Town Hall last night. He was intentionally deflecting away from his office failures and pointing to the gun
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If all of that doesn't get a potential shooter arrested, what does? Sheriff needs to resign now too.
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FBI Director on news tonight admitted they broke all

protocols in not taking the suspect down.

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Seriously?! 17 dead kids and we get an "oops" from the FBI... Feeling safer by the minute.
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Re: Gun was NOT the problem, Sheriff office failed
This is the real problem. Seems everyone knew this idiot was one step away from the edge, and did nothing. Sherriff failed
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Agreed. The FBI had just a whiff of this F@#kTard, but the Broward Sheriff Office had a considerable amount of interaction with him and failed. Which is why I think he was so combative in that Town Hall last night. He was intentionally deflecting away from his office failures and pointing to the gun
 Quoting: jt210


OP respect your thread.

But the FBI just sent a clear message to everyone and it is this.

You are on your own!

Since we are on our own, we go on our own! We don't need this anymore. We all sit around hoping the FBI or whomever will protect us but they won't and they don't. When is the last time a cop helped you out?

When your government has failed you the citizen then it is time to do away with it and leave your hope at the door.
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This is the real problem. Seems everyone knew this idiot was one step away from the edge, and did nothing. Sherriff failed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73625345


Agreed. The FBI had just a whiff of this F@#kTard, but the Broward Sheriff Office had a considerable amount of interaction with him and failed. Which is why I think he was so combative in that Town Hall last night. He was intentionally deflecting away from his office failures and pointing to the gun
 Quoting: jt210


OP respect your thread.

But the FBI just sent a clear message to everyone and it is this.

You are on your own!

Since we are on our own, we go on our own! We don't need this anymore. We all sit around hoping the FBI or whomever will protect us but they won't and they don't. When is the last time a cop helped you out?

When your government has failed you the citizen then it is time to do away with it and leave your hope at the door.
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I am questioning my faith in "some" to do the right thing. However, I have faith in at least the local police officers and sheriff's deputies I have had interaction in my area. Without giving too much away, I had a local Sheriff's deputy step in front of me when we had an instance of a perceived threat. It was a very surreal moment, but the deputy was a complete professional and did what he was trained to do. He pushed in front of me and shoved me back. Even though there was no real threat, he did what he had to do without even a second of hesitation.





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