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Call to Arms by Joerg Sprave of the Slingshot Channel, to form a Youtuber's Union to combat censorship and demonetization - youtubers unite!

 
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Joerg Sprave of the Slingshot channel (great channel) is calling for a formation of a Union of Youtube users and creators:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]




There's a transcript linked in the video description and here is a partial excerpt of the transcript with the Youtube Union list of demands:

- Bring back monetization for smaller channels - freedom of speech and fair chances shall not
be limited in any way, not in my book.

- Stop letting bots decide whether or not a channel receives a strike or has to be removed. At
least the verified partners have a right to speak to a real person if you plan to remove their
channel.

- Open up direct communication between the censors ("content department") and us
Creators.

- Stop using demonetized channels as "bait" to advertise monetized videos. If the creator canít
make any money on that video, you shouldnít make anything either, even if indirectly.

- Stop demonetization as a whole. If a video is in line with your rules, allow ads on an even
scale. Keep your nose out of our content. If your advertisers don't like that, let them go back
to the dying print media until they come back, tail between their legs.

- Stop preferring some creators over others. No more ďYouTube PreferredĒ. Spread out the ad
money over all YouTubers based on audience retention, not on ads placed next to it. You
know full well that you need controversial videos so you can bombard the audience with
videos that contain your ads. So pay those guys too. A car manufacturer canít just pay the
sales force. They have to pay the engineers, accountants, workers and even the cleaning
team as well. Otherwise they canít maintain their business. Same here.

- Community guidelines are OK. Nobody wants to see beheading videos, at least I donít want
those. But bring out clear rules with clear examples about what is OK and what is a No-No.
Stop referring us to these rubbery rules some slippery lawyers put together for you so you
can interpret them any way you like.

Here is a blunt message for you, YouTube. Listen closely.
Start of message:

Our deal as partners is: We make videos and bring in the views. You provide the infrastructure and
bring in the ads.
We creators are doing our job, every day. Now you do yours as well! Do it now. Focus on your
simple tasks in our partnership, and keep your hands off everything else. Donít mess with our
content. Donít prefer some partners over others. Donít go political. That isnít for you. Understood?

Come on, it ainít that hard.
End of message.

How will we get YouTube to give in to this?
By hitting them where it hurts.

- Publicity.
- Reach.
- Money.
First we will gather strength. As soon as we have enough momentum, we can start applying some
pressure. I guess the press will be interested in our movement, and it is time that the world realizes
what is going on behind the scenes of the worldís one and only FreeVoD monopoly.

Then we can voice our issues by jointly approaching the YouTube decision makers. There are several
ways how to do that. If we have enough of an audience behind us, they WILL talk. Look at Logan Paul.
Susan W. personally dealt with the issue.

We will raise so much stink that in the end, they WILL talk to us first before they change anything,
just to make sure we agree and this wonít end in one more PR disaster. This is what big corporations
do today. Change something? Go ask the union guys first.

It may sound hopeless, but it isnít. Without unions, people would still work 12 to 16 hours a day, six
days a week. Without unions, weíd probably all live in communism now. Unions prevented open
rebellions in many countries, simply by making the majority of workers happy, or at least happy
enough not to join the commie party.
"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:6-7
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Propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach...
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Thats fucking brilliant. Force union rules on YouTube. Normally Iíd be against forming a collective bargaining gang but in this instance itíd be poetic justice.
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Screw YT, abandon them for the leftist authoritarians they are and give your money and attention to alternative hosting platforms. YT going out of business would be the best message we can possibly send. I think it's a damn important message too.

Content creators need to make the move and those who support those channels it's time to pony up, send some money so they can make that transition. Stop making billions for a communist company!

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Why is google not a utility?

Youtube is a two way com device

Can the phone company jest say sorry we don't like watching you are saying and cut you off.
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Youtube is owned by Google.

Do you really think that Google's mission is to serve the people?
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Good luck. Hopefully it gains traction but why not leave and let them fall apart
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Good luck. Hopefully it gains traction but why not leave and let them fall apart
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Google and Youtube do not charge you. (unless you get the premium service, etc).

They give their services for free, as far as the consumer is concerned. It is really for advertising dollars, which means their advertising clients with the most money have the most control.

So, they are in business to make money, and if you want their services, you must play by their rules.

If they make money with cute cat videos that bring in the same amount of money as controversial political videos, they are happy to remove the controversial videos.
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Thanks for the responses. I don't know what the solution is but I know I like Joerg Sprave so much.

I hope you watched the video and didn't just read the short excerpt I posted. And if you haven't watched his channel, here's the first video of his that I watched that got me hooked forever:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:6-7
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Youtube has the infrastructure, just like the factory owner does. The content providers are using the infrastructure to produce the content, just like factory workers do.

So they should unionize. When the workers are being abused by the management they must speak in one voice and demand their rights.
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Good luck. Hopefully it gains traction but why not leave and let them fall apart
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Google and Youtube do not charge you. (unless you get the premium service, etc).

They give their services for free, as far as the consumer is concerned. It is really for advertising dollars, which means their advertising clients with the most money have the most control.

So, they are in business to make money, and if you want their services, you must play by their rules.

If they make money with cute cat videos that bring in the same amount of money as controversial political videos, they are happy to remove the controversial videos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75253704


Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO.

They can go that route if they choose, but they will lose viewers and create a vacuum that another site will fill.

Youtube will soon be known as the place your grandma goes to watch cat videos and that's about it.
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Youtube has the infrastructure, just like the factory owner does. The content providers are using the infrastructure to produce the content, just like factory workers do.

So they should unionize. When the workers are being abused by the management they must speak in one voice and demand their rights.
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Great analogy, content creators are the producers of what youtube sells.

Joerg said that too, in a different way, it's good to hear it put different ways to make it clear. Thanks.
"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:6-7
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Good luck. Hopefully it gains traction but why not leave and let them fall apart
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Google and Youtube do not charge you. (unless you get the premium service, etc).

They give their services for free, as far as the consumer is concerned. It is really for advertising dollars, which means their advertising clients with the most money have the most control.

So, they are in business to make money, and if you want their services, you must play by their rules.

If they make money with cute cat videos that bring in the same amount of money as controversial political videos, they are happy to remove the controversial videos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75253704


Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO.

They can go that route if they choose, but they will lose viewers and create a vacuum that another site will fill.

Youtube will soon be known as the place your grandma goes to watch cat videos and that's about it.
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"Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO."

Actually, it pretty much is.

The majority of people today care more about cat videos, celebrity gossip, rap stars, etc, than they do about so-called "conspiracy theories".

"create a vacuum that another site will fill"

It's not that easy. And even if such a site were created, ultimately, that site will be subject to the same people who control Google and Youtube.
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Thats fucking brilliant. Force union rules on YouTube. Normally Iíd be against forming a collective bargaining gang but in this instance itíd be poetic justice.
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Ha Ha Ha, That mother fucker will be lucky if he isn't banned from youtube by the end of the day.
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Screw YT, abandon them for the leftist authoritarians they are and give your money and attention to alternative hosting platforms. YT going out of business would be the best message we can possibly send. I think it's a damn important message too.

Content creators need to make the move and those who support those channels it's time to pony up, send some money so they can make that transition. Stop making billions for a communist company!
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I agree. To hell with YT.

Crisis creates opportunity. I have no doubt that there a GLPer's here that are talented enough to seize this opportunity.
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Good luck. Hopefully it gains traction but why not leave and let them fall apart
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Google and Youtube do not charge you. (unless you get the premium service, etc).

They give their services for free, as far as the consumer is concerned. It is really for advertising dollars, which means their advertising clients with the most money have the most control.

So, they are in business to make money, and if you want their services, you must play by their rules.

If they make money with cute cat videos that bring in the same amount of money as controversial political videos, they are happy to remove the controversial videos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75253704


Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO.

They can go that route if they choose, but they will lose viewers and create a vacuum that another site will fill.

Youtube will soon be known as the place your grandma goes to watch cat videos and that's about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320664


"Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO."

Actually, it pretty much is.

The majority of people today care more about cat videos, celebrity gossip, rap stars, etc, than they do about so-called "conspiracy theories".

"create a vacuum that another site will fill"

It's not that easy. And even if such a site were created, ultimately, that site will be subject to the same people who control Google and Youtube.
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So you're essentially saying they are "Too big to fail"?

I don't believe that. It will just take the perfect storm to make it happen but I believe the censorship conditions are ripe.

The 2020 election will BREAK them, I think you underestimate the audience, once the masses have a reason to pay attention to politics again.
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Why is google not a utility?

Youtube is a two way com device

Can the phone company jest say sorry we don't like watching you are saying and cut you off.
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So your solution is more government?
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That guy is cool. What a great spokesperson to rally around too.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Very European approach, very feudal, grovel to your corporate overlords and beseech mercy. Oh please, don't be so ruthless, give us a few crumbs and we will go back under our rocks. NO, F'YT. Burn it down. Once you betray your base, there is no more trust it will happen again.

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That guy is cool. What a great spokesperson to rally around too.
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I really like him, his videos are awesome, he has super engineering abilities and he's using them in a way that is really productive, he's making a great contribution to present day reality by making high-powered weapons out of old plywood, sheet metal, rubber and air canisters.

He posts videos for directions for making extremely powerful arrow shooters with parts that you can buy on Amazon.
"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:6-7
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Very European approach, very feudal, grovel to your corporate overlords and beseech mercy. Oh please, don't be so ruthless, give us a few crumbs and we will go back under our rocks. NO, F'YT. Burn it down. Once you betray your base, there is no more trust it will happen again.

D.tube
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Have you explored his channel? The guy is demonstrating how you can take some plywood boards and some other parts from the hardware store and make extremely powerful,lethal, legal weapons in your home workshop with ordinary tools.
"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:6-7
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Very European approach, very feudal, grovel to your corporate overlords and beseech mercy. Oh please, don't be so ruthless, give us a few crumbs and we will go back under our rocks. NO, F'YT. Burn it down. Once you betray your base, there is no more trust it will happen again.

D.tube
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Have you explored his channel? The guy is demonstrating how you can take some plywood boards and some other parts from the hardware store and make extremely powerful,lethal, legal weapons in your home workshop with ordinary tools.
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OP, no, I'm not against Joerg, it is the European cultural mindset, their approach in solving issues like this, the methodology. Corporations are only interested in the bottom line. If they burn you, its a divorce. If you are married, come home from work, and the neighbor is humping and pumping your wife, you don't want your wife anymore. Spare me the tears. Screw these flippant corporate whores like YouTube. Be gone.
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Joerg is awesome, been watching him for probably 6 years now. Hopefully he achieves his goals!
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Google and Youtube do not charge you. (unless you get the premium service, etc).

They give their services for free, as far as the consumer is concerned. It is really for advertising dollars, which means their advertising clients with the most money have the most control.

So, they are in business to make money, and if you want their services, you must play by their rules.

If they make money with cute cat videos that bring in the same amount of money as controversial political videos, they are happy to remove the controversial videos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75253704


Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO.

They can go that route if they choose, but they will lose viewers and create a vacuum that another site will fill.

Youtube will soon be known as the place your grandma goes to watch cat videos and that's about it.
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"Sure but is that all the audience wants to watch? NO."

Actually, it pretty much is.

The majority of people today care more about cat videos, celebrity gossip, rap stars, etc, than they do about so-called "conspiracy theories".

"create a vacuum that another site will fill"

It's not that easy. And even if such a site were created, ultimately, that site will be subject to the same people who control Google and Youtube.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75253704


So you're essentially saying they are "Too big to fail"?

I don't believe that. It will just take the perfect storm to make it happen but I believe the censorship conditions are ripe.

The 2020 election will BREAK them, I think you underestimate the audience, once the masses have a reason to pay attention to politics again.
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There are a few reasons. The "too big to fail" issue has benefited big banks and corporations in the past, so it is a real issue.

One thing is that it is very expensive to serve up lots of videos, especially if viewers demand high resolution. So any alternative to Youtube requires deep pockets.

Youtube, of course, has deep pockets because it is funded by people with a mission.

Another reason is that even with an independent site, it is still dependent on the rest of the internet, which is not independent.
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FUCK YOUTUBE

BAND TOGETHER TO LAUNCH A CLASS ACTION ANTI TRUST SUIT
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Can you still watch him, or are his videos banned now?
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Wait... so we're pro socialism now? Youtube may do a bunch of underhanded BS but it's their site.

When we come to GLP we are bound by GLP's rules and anything we post is subject to removal if Trinity or other admin don't like what we've posted. The same goes for Youtube.

If Youtube bans or censors a person for whatever reason, it is their right. They pay for the bandwidth to host and serve your video so they choose what sits on their servers. If we don't like it there are plenty other video sites that can host our videos. The problem is that the other sites don't even have a quarter of viewers and don't exactly pay what Youtube pays. If the viewers support the creators they will follow the creators to other sites and maybe pay a monthly fee.

Unions are socialist and border on communism.
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Wait... so we're pro socialism now? Youtube may do a bunch of underhanded BS but it's their site.

When we come to GLP we are bound by GLP's rules and anything we post is subject to removal if Trinity or other admin don't like what we've posted. The same goes for Youtube.

If Youtube bans or censors a person for whatever reason, it is their right. They pay for the bandwidth to host and serve your video so they choose what sits on their servers. If we don't like it there are plenty other video sites that can host our videos. The problem is that the other sites don't even have a quarter of viewers and don't exactly pay what Youtube pays. If the viewers support the creators they will follow the creators to other sites and maybe pay a monthly fee.

Unions are socialist and border on communism.
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In general, many YT content creators have contracts and have complied with the terms and then their channel account is modified by YT in a breech of those terms. You are correct TY can do what it pleases but when contracts are breeched then you either arbitrate the dispute or take it to court.
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Wait... so we're pro socialism now? Youtube may do a bunch of underhanded BS but it's their site.

When we come to GLP we are bound by GLP's rules and anything we post is subject to removal if Trinity or other admin don't like what we've posted. The same goes for Youtube.

If Youtube bans or censors a person for whatever reason, it is their right. They pay for the bandwidth to host and serve your video so they choose what sits on their servers. If we don't like it there are plenty other video sites that can host our videos. The problem is that the other sites don't even have a quarter of viewers and don't exactly pay what Youtube pays. If the viewers support the creators they will follow the creators to other sites and maybe pay a monthly fee.

Unions are socialist and border on communism.
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Ding! Ding! Ding! See how that slithers in? He is right.

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Wait... so we're pro socialism now? Youtube may do a bunch of underhanded BS but it's their site.

When we come to GLP we are bound by GLP's rules and anything we post is subject to removal if Trinity or other admin don't like what we've posted. The same goes for Youtube.

If Youtube bans or censors a person for whatever reason, it is their right. They pay for the bandwidth to host and serve your video so they choose what sits on their servers. If we don't like it there are plenty other video sites that can host our videos. The problem is that the other sites don't even have a quarter of viewers and don't exactly pay what Youtube pays. If the viewers support the creators they will follow the creators to other sites and maybe pay a monthly fee.

Unions are socialist and border on communism.
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In general, many YT content creators have contracts and have complied with the terms and then their channel account is modified by YT in a breech of those terms. You are correct TY can do what it pleases but when contracts are breeched then you either arbitrate the dispute or take it to court.
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Yes if you read the transcript linked in the video description, or watch the video all the way through, he wants better communication and better policies between Youtube and Youtube's "partners" which is what they've always called their content creators.

He wants consistency of enforcement of terms, and reasonable policies without double standards.

I don't see anything communistic or socialistic about this at all. You're just objecting to the word. Obviously this isn't about wages or workers striking. And seriously, if people are working in a coal mine and getting killed every day while starving to death to make some guy rich, then if me supporting their right to unionize makes me a "communist", so be it. I do not support government worker's unions, that's bullshit. and yes some unions have overreached their power.

BUT all that aside! This isn't about any of that! It's about people coming together for better communication!

The use of the word union bothers you, maybe they should call it something else?
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Philippians 4:6-7
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Re: Call to Arms by Joerg Sprave of the Slingshot Channel, to form a Youtuber's Union to combat censorship and demonetization - youtubers unite!
Wait... so we're pro socialism now? Youtube may do a bunch of underhanded BS but it's their site.

When we come to GLP we are bound by GLP's rules and anything we post is subject to removal if Trinity or other admin don't like what we've posted. The same goes for Youtube.

If Youtube bans or censors a person for whatever reason, it is their right. They pay for the bandwidth to host and serve your video so they choose what sits on their servers. If we don't like it there are plenty other video sites that can host our videos. The problem is that the other sites don't even have a quarter of viewers and don't exactly pay what Youtube pays. If the viewers support the creators they will follow the creators to other sites and maybe pay a monthly fee.

Unions are socialist and border on communism.
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Thats why europeans have 4 weeks of vacation, parental leave, free education, free health care.

While you slave away.

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