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usmc1868
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much appreciate your comments, mr wordsworth.
i believe you stand correct, but my question was merely asking if ever it was to happen what would be the automatic reaction of the people, and what would their views on trump be at that point?
 Quoting: UKTruther


I think the answer is obvious, but it's a nonsensical question like asking what we would do if he pulled of a mask during a press conference and revealed he was a reptilian.

But, to answer it anyways... actually the response would be the same as if he was a reptilian. We would disavow him, and immediately do everything in our power to remove him and anyone supporting him from office.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


thank you .
 Quoting: UKTruther


Sip your Earl Grey or whatever noxious tea you drink.

If your intent is to watch WWIII, CivWarII, or RevWarII you're on the safe side of the pond.

We won't expect help from any cuntry in Eurup. (Spelling intentional).

You're all compromised and all rely on the US to be dismantled before you can bring your destruction here.

I will stop you. From 100 yards to 1000 yards. You will be stopped.

It seems like I may have to pony up for the means to stop you at 2000m. I can do that. Money is a wonderful thing.
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Nice read brah! nice read!
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much appreciate your comments, mr wordsworth.
i believe you stand correct, but my question was merely asking if ever it was to happen what would be the automatic reaction of the people, and what would their views on trump be at that point?
 Quoting: UKTruther


I think the answer is obvious, but it's a nonsensical question like asking what we would do if he pulled of a mask during a press conference and revealed he was a reptilian.

But, to answer it anyways... actually the response would be the same as if he was a reptilian. We would disavow him, and immediately do everything in our power to remove him and anyone supporting him from office.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


thank you .
 Quoting: UKTruther


Sip your Earl Grey or whatever noxious tea you drink.

If your intent is to watch WWIII, CivWarII, or RevWarII you're on the safe side of the pond.

We won't expect help from any cuntry in Eurup. (Spelling intentional).

You're all compromised and all rely on the US to be dismantled before you can bring your destruction here.

I will stop you. From 100 yards to 1000 yards. You will be stopped.
 Quoting: Affable Serpent


sorry chap your flying off the handle here now, im not rooting for no war no fight no harm, nor do i want to cause anyone any harm.
so i will sip my earl tea peacefully, jus like i intended this thread to stay, peacefully.
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shovels and zip lock baggy sales go through the roof
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There's only 3 police officers in my town of 1000 people, almost all of whom are gun owners.

I don't think I will be burying anything.

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Jeff Sessions coming to a town near you!
 Quoting: usmc1868 75609822


I'm not worried, that confused old man would get lost trying to find my house.

I'll just go out to the main road and flip the sign pointing to my town in the other direction like they do in cartoons.
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If president Trump decides to go a head with this bill and have all weaponary to be confiscated by government that any citizen of the USA own.
What will your actions at that point be?
Considering if you dont comply, you could be shot or jailed for a lengthy period.
What will be your reaction if trump decides against the people he promised he was here to protect and stand by?

with the huge divides within thee country right now on who is right or wrong,
from the left to the right,
do you see a civil war happening?
And or a fight against military of they turn up at your door for your Guns and ammo?

I know how serious this can get and become,
This is why i ask these questions to see the response from Americans themselves.

I believe you should stick by your own thoughts and opinions, and stay protected with your guns.
Do not let them have them what so ever.
That my opinion though.

Thanks UKT
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Letís just pray this does NOT happen. It would be ugly.
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If president Trump decides to go a head with this bill and have all weaponary to be confiscated by government that any citizen of the USA own.
What will your actions at that point be?
Considering if you dont comply, you could be shot or jailed for a lengthy period.
What will be your reaction if trump decides against the people he promised he was here to protect and stand by?

with the huge divides within thee country right now on who is right or wrong,
from the left to the right,
do you see a civil war happening?
And or a fight against military of they turn up at your door for your Guns and ammo?

I know how serious this can get and become,
This is why i ask these questions to see the response from Americans themselves.

I believe you should stick by your own thoughts and opinions, and stay protected with your guns.
Do not let them have them what so ever.
That my opinion though.

Thanks UKT
 Quoting: UKTruther


Letís just pray this does NOT happen. It would be ugly.
 Quoting: Gami


agreed
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thread ended here.
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If president Trump decides to go a head with this bill and have all weaponary to be confiscated by government that any citizen of the USA own.
What will your actions at that point be?
Considering if you dont comply, you could be shot or jailed for a lengthy period.
What will be your reaction if trump decides against the people he promised he was here to protect and stand by?

with the huge divides within thee country right now on who is right or wrong,
from the left to the right,
do you see a civil war happening?
And or a fight against military of they turn up at your door for your Guns and ammo?

I know how serious this can get and become,
This is why i ask these questions to see the response from Americans themselves.

I believe you should stick by your own thoughts and opinions, and stay protected with your guns.
Do not let them have them what so ever.
That my opinion though.

Thanks UKT
 Quoting: UKTruther


Letís just pray this does NOT happen. It would be ugly.
 Quoting: Gami

Somethings need to be sorted out ugly.
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I can say with utmost certainty that the inland NW of the USA is not only pro 2nd amendment we are 110% 2nd amendment and then some. I live in the state shaped like a gun, anti gun folks here best keep to Boise.
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If president Trump decides to go a head with this bill and have all weaponary to be confiscated by government that any citizen of the USA own.
What will your actions at that point be?
Considering if you dont comply, you could be shot or jailed for a lengthy period.
What will be your reaction if trump decides against the people he promised he was here to protect and stand by?

with the huge divides within thee country right now on who is right or wrong,
from the left to the right,
do you see a civil war happening?
And or a fight against military of they turn up at your door for your Guns and ammo?

I know how serious this can get and become,
This is why i ask these questions to see the response from Americans themselves.

I believe you should stick by your own thoughts and opinions, and stay protected with your guns.
Do not let them have them what so ever.
That my opinion though.

Thanks UKT
 Quoting: UKTruther



That's truly a bridge to be crossed. Hopefully never.
In the event that does happen.As with any story there will be heros and martyrs.
I personally don't think we stand a chance against the federal standing armies.
That'll be on the heads of the tyrants though because I certainly won't be around anymore.
Witness.
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fair comment. and understandably many wont hang around either, they will go into hiding or just go altogether. but there will still be many who wish to stay and commense a war between those trying to take away the guns. Which is at that point i struggle to see which way it will all end up going.
 Quoting: UKTruther


Either way, it won't end well for the US.

One hopes it will end as well as it did in 1776 but there is no guarantee of that. It could end in such a way that we're broken and relegated to the likes of Venezuela, Brazil or the UK.

I'm guessing that it will start very slowly, gradually pick up steam and then commence into a full fledged battle once people realize that the criminals in DC have nothing but subjugation on their minds.

Look at the debacle that is Afghanistan. The "Graveyard of Empires". The Soviets failed. The US has failed.

The Afghans have NOTHING compared to We the People. Yet they continue to win.

It sounds like someone wishes to bring the fight here. It will make world news.

:punisher 2:
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US Baby Boomers retired on profits from deep state's Defense industry stocks and slaughter of women and children.To all Americans.... skull_fing
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At first many people would comply because they don't want to risk dying or going to jail. But there would be protests and civil disobedience all over the country. You would see multiple events similar to the 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff but instead of ending peacefully they would end in shootouts.

Casualties would mount on both sides, people who were formerly on the fence would join anti-government forces after seeing abuse and family members killed. Eventually either the government would call off the gun confiscation or a full civil war would erupt. Half the military would defect. Foreign countries would love to get involved to screw over the U.S. For example I can imagine Russia sending over "advisers" to train Americans and give them heavy weaponry.
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sadly i'd be put in a position to shoot any redcoat dumb enough to come to take them.

but that's not how they'll do it.

they will ban new owners first. let the old ones die out.

keep brainwashing "guns are evil, government good" into the new kids in the public brainwashing stations (aka schools)

then they will do enough paid voluntary turn-ins to reduce the "enemy's" weapons to a low enough number to view us as a non-threat and then begin passing all the insane new world order laws they want.

that being said.

IF the "assault weapons ban 2018" does pass and the patriots don't march on washington...we don't deserve the weapons anyways..
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Realistically, the way it would go down is if dems get their wish, 20 years from now probably all you will be able to own is single shot rifles so they can say the second amendment is still alive and hunting is still possible.

By that time armed drone swarms will make firearms obsolete as a weapon against the government anyways... and even then they will probably put chips in the guns that allow the police to disable them.

That's our future folks, that's why I get excited when I hear about doom. If technology keeps progressing at it's current rate, governments will attain the power to permanently enslave the human race, and they WILL use that power eventually.

Ted was right, I just wish he found a more effective way to get his point across. He thought he could stop this by going full Sarah Conner, but it was to little too late.

:hidetomato:
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


All force is local. Remember that. Physical control requires a presence. It can't be remote and effective.

Someone drives the drone. Someone writes its code. A power station recharges the batteries. The station is run by people. All of those people are local somewhere too.
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its not that easy. It would require vote of 2/3's of the states voting in favor. Potus cannot do it himself. Amendments are very hard to change
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I think it's more like 3/4ths of the states have to pass it in both state houses and the governor has to sign.
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gun conf = revolution.
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During Obama's reign, there was an arms race between the federal government and the People.

The People won!

Note that Obama and the dims controlled both houses of Congress, they could have easily passed anti-Second Amendment laws. They did not because they knew they would lose elections.

Brits do not understand Americans and vice versa.
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its not that easy. It would require vote of 2/3's of the states voting in favor. Potus cannot do it himself. Amendments are very hard to change
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But if government/elite's want that changed, they will have it changed regardless how the voting works out, they rig everything to the favour.

I ask this cos i love americans, i believe in your rights and you must stand by them.

But i can see this leading to a mass loss of life, if military open fire on those who do not hand over..
But then again if you open fire back, yeah they lose too..

I dont think many understand how much of a huge deal this is for the Usa and the people.
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The problem there is they just have to push a button, police forces have bear cats and other armored vehicles... I took an otath once for the military and twice for government jobs. That oath is to degenerate the constitution against all enemies foreign n domestic... Nuff said
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Welp, like Ted Kennedy used to say "We'll drive off that bridge when we come to it."

One thing I can assure you of... it's not going to be pretty.
"Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again.

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If president Trump was to sign a bill and have all weaponary to be confiscated by government that any citizen of the USA own.
What will your actions at that point be?
Considering if you dont comply, you could be shot or jailed for a lengthy period.
What will be your reaction if trump decides against the people he promised he was here to protect and stand by?

with the huge divides within thee country right now on who is right or wrong,
from the left to the right,
do you see a civil war happening?
And or a fight against military of they turn up at your door for your Guns and ammo?

I know how serious this can get and become,
This is why i ask these questions to see the response from Americans themselves.

I believe you should stick by your own thoughts and opinions, and stay protected with your guns.
Do not let them have them what so ever.
That my opinion though.

Thanks UKT
 Quoting: UKTruther


The bill would be illegal. No amendment can be usurped by deranged politicians. Relax and watch it's going to get better.
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Most military would side with the second amendment. Cops not so much. I think most would prefer they were the only ones allowed to have guns.
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Iím a retired LEO, with 13 years on my Deptís SRT, from a pretty liberal Northeast City, and I donít know one single officer in my Dept who believes that only LEOs should be armed.

There might have been a couple who wanted strict restrictions on MSRs, but they kept it to themselves. The vast majority believed strongly in the full protection of the 2A.

Not one guy on my former SRT would have participated in confiscation of weapons from the general public.

All that said, if a weapons ban ever did pass, and any agents or officers came to my door to take them, they are not getting them. My level of resistance would depend on how hard they insisted on coming in.

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That should be defend, tnot degenerate. damn spell check
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Crispus attucks....
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If president Trump decides to go a head with this bill and have all weaponary to be confiscated by government that any citizen of the USA own.
What will your actions at that point be?
Considering if you dont comply, you could be shot or jailed for a lengthy period.
What will be your reaction if trump decides against the people he promised he was here to protect and stand by?

with the huge divides within thee country right now on who is right or wrong,
from the left to the right,
do you see a civil war happening?
And or a fight against military of they turn up at your door for your Guns and ammo?

I know how serious this can get and become,
This is why i ask these questions to see the response from Americans themselves.

I believe you should stick by your own thoughts and opinions, and stay protected with your guns.
Do not let them have them what so ever.
That my opinion though.

Thanks UKT
 Quoting: UKTruther


"Shall not infringe" the military would never follow that order, and citizens would never comply.
Although there may be some door to door removal of and confiscation public officials...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74819998


...except for the time they did it after hurricane Katrina...
 Quoting: BiblioPhile



This is true, although it was the police not the military. And it was under disaster conditions where there were some mighty fucked up people running riot.
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We march on Washington. We politely take away DC police guns. If we the people canít have guns then law makers canít have guns. Equal
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so it could go into a full scale war between government and citizens?
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It would last a whole ten minutes.
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We march on Washington. We politely take away DC police guns. If we the people canít have guns then law makers canít have guns. Equal
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so it could go into a full scale war between government and citizens?
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Won't happen considering that the majority of cops and the military support the 2nd amendment.

What I could see happening is that during a collapse the FEDs under a Hillary Clinton / Obama character try and force gun control then use Chinese or UN troops to enforce it.
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Realistically, the way it would go down is if dems get their wish, 20 years from now probably all you will be able to own is single shot rifles so they can say the second amendment is still alive and hunting is still possible.

By that time armed drone swarms will make firearms obsolete as a weapon against the government anyways... and even then they will probably put chips in the guns that allow the police to disable them.

That's our future folks, that's why I get excited when I hear about doom. If technology keeps progressing at it's current rate, governments will attain the power to permanently enslave the human race, and they WILL use that power eventually.

Ted was right, I just wish he found a more effective way to get his point across. He thought he could stop this by going full Sarah Conner, but it was to little too late.

hidetomato
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


All force is local. Remember that. Physical control requires a presence. It can't be remote and effective.

Someone drives the drone. Someone writes its code. A power station recharges the batteries. The station is run by people. All of those people are local somewhere too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75009295


You're thinking about 2018 technology, or maybe 2025 technology.

In 2040, there will be shit you couldn't have even imagined was possible right now, just like there's shit now you couldn't have imagined in 1995.

By that point, drones will have an endurance of days or weeks... and be able to make decisions on their own faster than a human could.

AI will be driving the drone and writing it's code, robots will be running the power station, and all of them will be armed to the teeth and worst case easily replaceable without the need for years of training.

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Every army marches on its belly.

Cut off the supply chain, and you kill the army.
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This is worth clicking on. perfect for the thread.

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Boston Ė National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw...


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I always comply with all lawful orders. Any law or order that conflicts with the Constitution is unlawful. You figure it out, limey bastard.
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