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Its interesting the numbers they use like that at the Monroe Center.
Journey's out of Body - I think is his first work - when he discovered he could actually get out of his body - in that book he describes the three levels - one is basically our current reality, the next is a kind of steam punk version of our world and the third - well its a place with entities and energies - which did not sound at all pleasant.
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I didn't care for Monroe's writing style in his book(s) - as he insisted on using his own unique terminology because he didn't want people to be influenced by their preexisting ideas surrounding more popular words/vernacular. I get why he did it - but it made for a more cumbersome reading experience (for me)... Found it far more easier to listen to him in interviews, and lectures.

I inadvertently ended up coming across a few books written by individuals who had attended or had some affiliation with the Monroe Institute...

I've thought about going to the Monroe Center. It looks from the course descriptions like a lot of listening to Hemisync - in a kind of "soft" isolation bunk, and the levels are numbered like you write above. I know there are some people floating around (irony intended) here that have been there - maybe one of them will find us in here and add to the discussion.
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This glp member recently attended:
Thread: I met Joe McMoneagle (retired US military remote viewer/psychic) and spooked him out.

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Me, I just want to experience one of those isolation tanks...
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It's not one phenomenon, that's for sure. We're talking about extraordinarily complex, multi-faceted phenomena. "They" do go far, far into space and come from space. And they also pass through solid objects, like, say, going in and out of mountains. They're in the ocean too. They're probably everywhere.I
think at the top of the research pyramid quite a lot has been done with what relatively little they know. Some crazy-ass high tech shit has come out of that research for example. Much of it weaponized of course. (Hal Puthoff said that if they just discovered water the first thing they would do is to figure out how to drown people with it. )
My little guess is that there's all kinds of life out there and also, literally, other dimensions of reality, which contain life (we're interdimensional too, but that's another subject) We're just beginning to grasp this stuff. It's in its infancy. The next 100 years is gonna be a trip.
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I have some really crazy dreams sometimes - where I "see" things - or - get shown things. Everything you wrote resonates, I will put it that way.
I try to open myself further to understanding - I try and force a kind of synesthesia on myself so I can understand things like multidimensional realities - I just barely get the briefest epiphany - and then its - POOF gone - its like I get to open that third eye for just a second and look at that one part of the elephant before that eye slams shut again. I really think our brains are just not wired consciously to understand it all. Everything is possible and nothing is possible all at the same time.
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Its interesting the numbers they use like that at the Monroe Center.
Journey's out of Body - I think is his first work - when he discovered he could actually get out of his body - in that book he describes the three levels - one is basically our current reality, the next is a kind of steam punk version of our world and the third - well its a place with entities and energies - which did not sound at all pleasant.
 Quoting: Starbird


I didn't care for Monroe's writing style in his book(s) - as he insisted on using his own unique terminology because he didn't want people to be influenced by their preexisting ideas surrounding more popular words/vernacular. I get why he did it - but it made for a more cumbersome reading experience (for me)... Found it far more easier to listen to him in interviews, and lectures.

I inadvertently ended up coming across a few books written by individuals who had attended or had some affiliation with the Monroe Institute...

I've thought about going to the Monroe Center. It looks from the course descriptions like a lot of listening to Hemisync - in a kind of "soft" isolation bunk, and the levels are numbered like you write above. I know there are some people floating around (irony intended) here that have been there - maybe one of them will find us in here and add to the discussion.
 Quoting: Starbird


This glp member recently attended:
Thread: I met Joe McMoneagle (retired US military remote viewer/psychic) and spooked him out.

:greenkarma:

Me, I just want to experience one of those isolation tanks...
 Quoting: WOLF*



I finally got to do that last summer! What was strange is - for a brief window of the time I spent in the tank - you don't really know which way you are moving or if you are moving at all. While you are floating you kind of wonder if you have floated into a standing up position but your cognitive mind knows that is not possible since the tank is only a foot deep. Trippy.
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I think there's a mix of reasons why we're told things. Some people want it out and other's absolutely don't. No one ever told me anything that isn't somewhere in the public record now.
Except for odd little things here and there. For example, a well-known physicist told a small group of us, almost as an aside that it's not really understood how anesthetic actually works . Then he said that if you leave water in a container for some length of time, or if you microwave it for thirty minutes, you can separate it into two containers and put anesthetic in one and if you drink from the plain water container and it will put you out. He moved right on to another subject and I remember thinking he might be saying this to see where that information goes. Put out disinfo and then see if it ends up on the internet. But who the fuck knows? I remember reading somewhere that the Soviets had figured out how to "condition" water in ways that sounded similar. I don't know. He was mainly talking about UFOs, psychic abilities and physics.
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I think there's a mix of reasons why we're told things. Some people want it out and other's absolutely don't. No one ever told me anything that isn't somewhere in the public record now.
Except for odd little things here and there. For example, a well-known physicist told a small group of us, almost as an aside that it's not really understood how anesthetic actually works . Then he said that if you leave water in a container for some length of time, or if you microwave it for thirty minutes, you can separate it into two containers and put anesthetic in one and if you drink from the plain water container and it will put you out. He moved right on to another subject and I remember thinking he might be saying this to see where that information goes. Put out disinfo and then see if it ends up on the internet. But who the fuck knows? I remember reading somewhere that the Soviets had figured out how to "condition" water in ways that sounded similar. I don't know. He was mainly talking about UFOs, psychic abilities and physics.
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Its pretty interesting the concentration of Physics PhDs - that were involved in Psi and UFOs. Also interesting that you almost think it was planted and tagged information like marked money going out. I have a bunch of books I have hunted down over the years - OLD books - from the 60s and 70s - before a kind of censorship got involved about these subjects and a couple of titles were on the Soviet opinion on these matters.

You probably know this better than I do but I remember learning they they do not look at science the same way we do - they just assume people have Psi talents and work to enhance them - we on the other hand try and "prove" it exists and sometimes the way in which we attempt this is flawed - and we really spend a lot of time on our methods.

I have come up with a new theory about mysticism/psi abilities in Northern Latitude regions, for example its rumored a lot of strange things go on in the Russian Ural region - well - they are - basically the entire country is above the United States in Latitude. The closer to the poles you are the more likely Northern lights will happen due to the magnetic field/atmosphere - so from that I conclude the electromagnetic conditions are probably different at those latitudes. (I am just guessing here, not a scientist) - well we know that the brain is effected by differences in electromagnetic fields - so maybe the entire continent over there and all the peoples on it are at an advantage in abilities due to these differences.

I am just free associating here . . . .
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I think there's a mix of reasons why we're told things. Some people want it out and other's absolutely don't. No one ever told me anything that isn't somewhere in the public record now.
Except for odd little things here and there. For example, a well-known physicist told a small group of us, almost as an aside that it's not really understood how anesthetic actually works . Then he said that if you leave water in a container for some length of time, or if you microwave it for thirty minutes, you can separate it into two containers and put anesthetic in one and if you drink from the plain water container and it will put you out. He moved right on to another subject and I remember thinking he might be saying this to see where that information goes. Put out disinfo and then see if it ends up on the internet. But who the fuck knows? I remember reading somewhere that the Soviets had figured out how to "condition" water in ways that sounded similar. I don't know. He was mainly talking about UFOs, psychic abilities and physics.
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OK -
THE WATER THING -
It just hit me - that could come in very handy as a way to assassinate - you could put the toxin in water in Russia - while serving it in England - leaving no trace really, and no need to "sneak" said toxin out of country.

I heard someone say that "we don't even understand water" recently - I can't remember where - but it stuck out, ya know how that happens sometimes.
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fI finally got to do that last summer! What was strange is - for a brief window of the time I spent in the tank - you don't really know which way you are moving or if you are moving at all. While you are floating you kind of wonder if you have floated into a standing up position but your cognitive mind knows that is not possible since the tank is only a foot deep. Trippy.
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I'm of the impression that it would be conducive for experiencing OBE's or other altered-states of consciousness - because the conditions promote the loss of physical-body awareness & identification....
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Re: water thing. I read exactly that somewhere too. But it's like what Puthoff said about drowning people. Because there has to be some major breakthrough that goes with that, ie quantum entanglement of some sort, or whatever, right? Some big discovery. But first, someone is going to kill someone with it.
And yeah, your electromagnetism idea is worth chewing on. Cross-referencing here, wasn't Robert Monroe messing around with powerful radio waves when he first went out of body? Am I remembering that right?
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Re: water thing. I read exactly that somewhere too. But it's like what Puthoff said about drowning people. Because there has to be some major breakthrough that goes with that, ie quantum entanglement of some sort, or whatever, right? Some big discovery. But first, someone is going to kill someone with it.
And yeah, your electromagnetism idea is worth chewing on. Cross-referencing here, wasn't Robert Monroe messing around with powerful radio waves when he first went out of body? Am I remembering that right?
 Quoting: 2big2phail


I don't know what Monroe was up to, now I am going to have to dig that book out and take a look. Radio waves - function in Hertz levels - the Hemisync CDs they sell through the Monroe Institute work to get your brain into certain brain wave patters which area also Hertz levels . . .

About the Latitude/Electromagnetic field stuff - I think it would be interesting to compare the mythology of the indignant and old cultures. I was looking at tours of Ireland online and this particular tour house had trip after trip that visited "magical" places - the Irish had all kinds of stories about the little people, the banshees - etc -

In the Scandinavian cultures there are similar stories - is there something behind some of this based in fact - can they "see" things depending on weather conditions including space weather conditions that affect electromagnetic fields? That combined with what ever geology makes up those areas where "the veil is thin" -

Going back to water - one thing that I think was recently put out there was they discovered water had "memory" -
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Because there has to be some major breakthrough that goes with that, ie quantum entanglement of some sort, or whatever, right?
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Yes. There are problems with being a Reiki healer as well with entanglement. Remember to reiki self-cleanse, OP. hf

Great thread.
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I met him a ...
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Wow...
Are UFOs terrestrial in your opinion or truly from "outer space" - my opinion based only on "feelings" is that they are terrestrial but that reality and dimensions aren't what we think they are...
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Ahh, "UFOs"... I have more to go on than "feelings" but, that said, "UFOs" are terrestrial, they are non-terrestrial, they are non-organic, they are organic, they are from our dimension - and higher dimensions, they are from our reality - and from other realities, parallel dimensions and multiverses. When one limits the possibilities, one limits the truth.

We, for the most part, incarnate on Earth like a race horse - with blinders on, not wanting to be distracted by too many things on the periphery - and racing to the "finish", in hopes to win... what?

Some of us get a chance to have those binders loosened, just a bit, so we can experience things that some do not, and hopefully some come to realize that it is the journey that counts, not the "finish".

We are all on different paths, so some may hold a "Russel Targ" in higher esteem than the homeless person babbling to themselves as possibly less interesting, but they are both an aspect of "The One", and thus, our-self.

Re: REIKI. You don't need anything for "hands on healing" except the willingness to offer yourself to be a conduit for healing NOT for the healing itself. In some ways, Bashar said it very well when he spoke about "permission slips": we do not really need anything or anyone else, but because of our "blinders" we seek "permission slips", e.g. we take "drugs" to try and improve our health (we could do it just as well w/o them but our current beliefs limit us) or we seek a "REIKI" (or any other organized healing modality) "permission slip" to heal others (when we could do it just as well w/o), etc.





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