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US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found

 
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I passed 63 out of 64 on armed services entry test, was going into navy, e-3, start working with nuclear propulsion. Denied due to my ADHD diagnosis as a child. Whatever...
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
The US Army is looking for 80,000 recruits this year. If only 50 out of every 10,000 were capable, there would have to be 14,000,000 applicants this year alone. I think OP's numbers are incorrect.
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This is one reason for our elite's frantic importation of military-aged foreign males. Noy the first time in history a dying empire has seen it's own as too weak to enforce the leaders will and resorted to importing a mercenary class.
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time to start drafting the ladies too,
to help make up for the shortfall.
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
The US Army is looking for 80,000 recruits this year. If only 50 out of every 10,000 were capable, there would have to be 14,000,000 applicants this year alone. I think OP's numbers are incorrect.
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In the eighties 25% of the people were not qualified. Today it is at least 75%.
That is people who were no to old. Weight is a killer and the military kicks out 3,000 people a year who are overweight and do not lose it.

What employers care what you weigh? Get in but you have to keep within the weight range.

The military uses a lot of standards that a civilian employer would not be allowed to use or would car about.

The run was a 2 mile run not two hours. I forget the time allowed.

In 1985 I asked a former drill sergeant about the smarter recruits compared to the less intelligent. He liked the dumber ones as they did what they were told and the smarter ones said WHY.
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
From a moms perspective

My son is a high school graduate

His national standard tests say he is above average and average.

Cannot score high enough on army entrance test taken in 2017

Neighbor is car mechanic. Tried to get into army. Cannot pass entrance tests.

He is the manager of the car shop.

So I don’t think it is the physical part.

The recruiter told me they had dropped over 300 mos. they had added like 14 and most of those required a four year degree. Dog handler and drone operator required a four year degree.

Just my two cents.
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Yep, too picky.
They want a person versed in todays modern technical world that sits around a computer all the time and a person of yesterday that can pass the physical requirements coming from being physical and an outdoorsman.

Bad combination.
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I'm guessing that many of the rejects are due to some sort fo mental illness. Mental illness is very common nowadays, more so than in the past.

I am mentally ill and would probably be disqualified, even from a draft.
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This.

My BF wanted to join the military but he can't. Real mental illness (not just depression) would obviously be a huge liability in the military.

Too bad there's not a supportive role for these people who are generally functional but may have an episode now or then.

Either mental illness is increasing or regular human behavior is being over-medicalized and over-medicated.
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Mental Illness isn't on the rise, its just more conditions are being created for Psychiatrists to diagnose. The official Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is currently on its fifth iteration.

For example, 50 years ago ADHD wasn't a mental illness. Children with high energy would go outside and run around during recess and gym class. Since many school districts have eliminated gym and even recess, children denied outlets for their pent-up energy are labeled "disruptive" than get diagnosed with ADHD and are prescribed Ritalin.
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It's their own fault for having a flawed recruitment process.

Nobody even trusts their recruiters, nor should they.

They do not want good soldiers, they want good slaves.
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
Lets be honest here, most people don't want to join the military anymore so that shrinks the applicants significantly.

So much so, that they had to start a program for foreigners to join the military and in turn would give them US citizenship.

Yes there are some diehard military families that still join generationally, and I would imagine that makes up for the 50 people it listed per % of applicants.

Between the endless unconstitutional banker wars, the coverage on how bad veterans are treated in every way in the US, veterans and active military being listed on Homeland Security's top on the watch list, coverage on all the ptsd, as well as other things, is it truly any wonder that most people don't want to sign up anymore?

The pool they are now drawing from is not the pool they once drew from.

What did they expect to happen after all of the things I listed? Precisely this.
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Heard it on the radio today. Straight from the horse's mouth. That's your future, soy boys. 30% of our beloved male population or less meet the standard.
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Good.
The last thing we need to do is supply our incompetent as fuck military with an endless supply of Grade A cannon fodder so they can enable our criminal class of politicians and corporate oligarchs to perpetuate even more false flag wars of imperialism of benefit to fucking no one save a few shareholders.

Fuck ‘em. Too bad the figure isn’t even lower.

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this.


And anyone joining is working for the Oligarchs not the people.
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its prob because too many have a documented mental disorder, they dont want those cases when you sign, but they make sure you get one once you leave!!
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I didn't believe the stories until I read this one from Military.com.

While the South produces the most recruits they are also more unfit or more likely to be injured in training than recruits from other states.

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Horseshit.
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Just like the end of Rome.

The Military is being filled with foreigners seeking citizenship.

Just like in Rome, They have no loyalties to America and for what it stands for, they will shoot the Citizens if given the order.

"when in Rome do as the Romans used to be their motto" - near the end is was- "Do it for the benifits and to hell with loyalty"

As soon as the pay stopped, they took over the cities.
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
Okay. To the person saying we are importing military aged men.

If my son who is in excellent physical shape and has a high school diploma and scored average and above average on his national tests cannot pass the army entrance exam what makes you think all these foreigners from wherever can. I think that is s load of elephant dung.
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
Sorry for that slightly misleading title, out of each 10k found, only 50 will meet the necessary minimum. He implied that is just physical. 44 situp crunches in such such time, 4 pullups, easy stuff. Run a certain distance within 2 hours or something (I missed that part, radio got hard to hear).
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I was in the military, many people in basic training cannot do the minimum, in basic training they make sure as many as possible will meet the min. I have been a runner since I was a kid and in many sports, so I had no trouble.

Most of the women cannot do the push-ups, but most can after. Shorter people can do more push-ups (they need a better test).
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Sorry, accidentally clicked "suggest unpin"
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glp Plastic Boys are too fat to fight
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So what, only people wanting a government paid sex change operation are joining now anyway.


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...but while I'm here.

didn't we whoop he world's ass using our 18, 19 and 20yo during WW2? I read once the men left at home building equipment could have done the same job in half the time.

On that not, in my opinion sound men don't "enlist". Men trying to "find themselves" do. Real men work hard, live, marry, have kids, hang with family,...until its time to defend home.
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I passed 63 out of 64 on armed services entry test, was going into navy, e-3, start working with nuclear propulsion. Denied due to my ADHD diagnosis as a child. Whatever...
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exactly. I found ADHD is brought on by poor teaching. Kids actually get bored, and tired of learning so slow.
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The problem is the US has created a lot of these...


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To Watch Is To Be Prepared Not Just During The Bad Times But In The Good Times As Well A Good Watchman Never Lets His Or Her Guard Down Never Gives Occasion To The Enemy.

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I bet the real reason that they all but those few had drugs in their bodies.

"Drugs" are a chemical, and our food is FULL of chemicals (drugs), so it is the government that is faltering, not us. Certainly by now WE know what
real idiots and criminally insane they are.-
and guess what: so does Trump know.
Thank God for Trump, and why so many government
people want him to go away.
They FEAR HIM, because he is exposing them. He is being forced to fire the whole government because they are all worthless and worse, and they know it.- and, now, so do we know it.
Think of all the things gov. can take away
from us
and now body parts. Thisis going to grow to
be very big. They willnot be waiting
for you to be dead, and this is
already happening in the nursing
asylums.

What kind of hideous monsters are we going
to have slobbering and hovering over us and
our children day and night?
sheep
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Heard it on the radio today. Straight from the horse's mouth. That's your future, soy boys. 30% of our beloved male population or less meet the standard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45627647


It's not that they don't "meet the standards" it's that they don't want to join the military.

Who wants to go die for corporate interests, or get your legs blown off, or develop PTSD.

I saw a guy who had arm stubs, his arms were blown off by IED in Iraq.

Nice life, now he has to be waited on by his loved ones, and will get a small living allowance from the government.

Was it worth it for corporate interests?

If they come to America I'd be one of the first ones ready to defend.

However todays military is more the style of occupy foreign countries that have things we want, such as opium or oil.

The casualties are for profit, not freedom.


THATS why no one wants to join the military today.
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Very few Millennial knows what you said about the corporate wars....

and if they HAD to fight if war came to America -- they would hide in mommies basement. Most are loud mouth cowards.

They can't even handle someone telling them to learn real History without going bonkers.


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Want to make God laugh, tell Him 'your' plans.
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Cremation... the only hope I have left for a smoking hot body...
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God bless America!

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I don't know too much about the area of feeding babies, but I'd venture to guess that formula has been full of soy oil, etc for years now. Of course it would never be publicaly admitted if it was.
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You are what you eat. It's a fact that males who eat soy products will begin to grow breasts. I've heard this directly from a completely outside the glp realm by wellness nutritionist practictioners.
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Well what man would drink estrogen knowing it was in the soy? They should have to label that shit. Of course they are gonna grow big tits drinking estrogen.
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I'm worrying about that shit in the formulas for babies.
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MEPS prides themselves on how many people they give the boot.
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Heard it on the radio today. Straight from the horse's mouth. That's your future, soy boys. 30% of our beloved male population or less meet the standard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45627647



Good.
The last thing we need to do is supply our incompetent as fuck military with an endless supply of Grade A cannon fodder so they can enable our criminal class of politicians and corporate oligarchs to perpetuate even more false flag wars of imperialism of benefit to fucking no one save a few shareholders.

Fuck ‘em. Too bad the figure isn’t even lower.

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They will pull the draft card that they always seem to avoid.
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That's why we have a Bad Ass Military!
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Re: US Military comments today about difficulty in finding capable recruits: out of 10,000, only 50 found
From a moms perspective

My son is a high school graduate

His national standard tests say he is above average and average.

Cannot score high enough on army entrance test taken in 2017

Neighbor is car mechanic. Tried to get into army. Cannot pass entrance tests.

He is the manager of the car shop.

So I don’t think it is the physical part.

The recruiter told me they had dropped over 300 mos. they had added like 14 and most of those required a four year degree. Dog handler and drone operator required a four year degree.

Just my two cents.
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There are just 190 MOS's in the Army. What did they do drop all of them. LOL....
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She's not telling all of the story. A 4 yr degree for a grunt, combat engineer, or cannon cocker? NO. Not even for helicopter mech. Try again, either the kid or recruiter is fibbing or leaving things out.





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