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Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games

 
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Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but found Stewart Rhodes's words during this interview surprising...

"I don't think he understands the Constitution, frankly, to be blunt... He's a businessman, I don't think he's actually ever sat down and studied the document or it's history... I hate to be..not trying to be mean about it, it's just a reality......when it comes to this he's starting to fold...what you don't want to do is give them an inch..they'll take a mile...In business you can compromise, when it comes to our rights you can't compromise...it's a violation of his oath...it's outside of the scope of his powers "

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Re: Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
Truths are brutal.

Cognitive dissonance feels better.

For Rhodes to say this in public is huge and very telling... and if he's saying out loud then large elements of Trump's base are thinking it too...
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Never accept the opening gambit of a negotiation as the final word.
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Never accept the opening gambit of a negotiation as the final word.
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Even implying that inalienable rights are negotiable is Treason.

Real Patriots are taking notice.
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Never accept the opening gambit of a negotiation as the final word.
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Even implying that inalienable rights are negotiable is Treason.

Real Patriots are taking notice.
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Games aren't meant to be played with our God given inalienable rights.
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Never accept the opening gambit of a negotiation as the final word.
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Even implying that inalienable rights are negotiable is Treason.

Real Patriots are taking notice.
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hesright


Games aren't meant to be played with our God given inalienable rights.
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This is what boggles my mind...

How can anyone call themselves a 'patriot' and still fall for the idiot notion that these things are negotiable or even to used as bargaining chips... ?

And in the other part of the interview , Rhodes properly hammers the NRA as well .. for supporting 'existing' gun laws that are also plainly unconstitutional ..

I cannot wrap my head around the affinities of the political worshiping herds for endlessly and blindly 'following and trusting' their chosen political saviors no matter what they do or say..

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I am surprised that your thread and video did not get more response. Ever since that very strange meeting in the White House where Trump went off the rails I have been cautiously observing events.

The comments made that day by Trump at the meeting in and of themselves were distressing. Game or not, the talk was dangerous and utterly foolish. I was actually quite shocked to hear him talk like that.

I got the YouTube video saved in my YouTube (from the one you posted) and will be watching it later tonight. Thanks for posting it. Stewart is an intelligent person whose comments I am interested to hear.
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I am surprised that your thread and video did not get more response. Ever since that very strange meeting in the White House where Trump went off the rails I have been cautiously observing events.

The comments made that day by Trump at the meeting in and of themselves were distressing. Game or not, the talk was dangerous and utterly foolish. I was actually quite shocked to hear him talk like that.

I got the YouTube video saved in my YouTube (from the one you posted) and will be watching it later tonight. Thanks for posting it. Stewart is an intelligent person whose comments I am interested to hear.
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It doesn't surprise me that the thread has no traction. The subject has been thoroughly vented here and there is some obvious fallout and fatigue...

I just found it very interesting that a national coalition like the Oathkeepers are firing warning shots across the Trump bow ..
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Re: Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
I am surprised that your thread and video did not get more response. Ever since that very strange meeting in the White House where Trump went off the rails I have been cautiously observing events.

The comments made that day by Trump at the meeting in and of themselves were distressing. Game or not, the talk was dangerous and utterly foolish. I was actually quite shocked to hear him talk like that.

I got the YouTube video saved in my YouTube (from the one you posted) and will be watching it later tonight. Thanks for posting it. Stewart is an intelligent person whose comments I am interested to hear.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


It doesn't surprise me that the thread has no traction. The subject has been thoroughly vented here and there is some obvious fallout and fatigue...

I just found it very interesting that a national coalition like the Oathkeepers are firing warning shots across the Trump bow ..
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To hear this group the Oathkeepers speak up is interesting, I agree. They were very supportive of Trump in 2016. If any group is aware of the goings on about the 2nd Amendment it is them, and GOA too.
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Re: Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
Stewart Rhodes is right.
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Stewart Rhodes is right.
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Straight up honesty is refreshing.

No games. No code words. No bullshit 48D chess excuses. No political waffling...

Just the way Americans who know what's up prefer it - and exactly why they backed Trump in the first place...and why they are questioning him now...
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I wonder if he believes Donald Trump's version of events for parkland and Las vagas mass shootings
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I wonder if he believes Donald Trump's version of events for parkland and Las vagas mass shootings
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Rhodes tries to stay clear of those sorts of things...same with the school shooting stuff - and he did in this interview by sidestepping SGT bringing up the teacher who saw a shooter in full black battle rattle spraying down a hallway ..

He has to walk a tightrope because of a widening rift between members of Oathkeepers - those who are starting to see the obvious inconsistencies with Trump and the 'official' versions of Vegas and Parkland, etc etc - and the sizable chunk of his membership who are full on political police state advocates...

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Re: Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
Nothing will happen. Trump is a businessman. Sometimes the best course of action is just to agree with your enemy, then do nothing. Just to get them to shut up.

Yes, Florida passed some stupid shit that will be overturned by the courts. They would've passed that crap no matter what Trump said.
Get over it or die mad.
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Re: Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
Nothing will happen. Trump is a businessman. Sometimes the best course of action is just to agree with your enemy, then do nothing. Just to get them to shut up.

Yes, Florida passed some stupid shit that will be overturned by the courts. They would've passed that crap no matter what Trump said.
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This is a direct quote by Rhodes...

"I don't think he understands the Constitution, frankly, to be blunt... He's a businessman, I don't think he's actually ever sat down and studied the document or it's history... I hate to be..not trying to be mean about it, it's just a reality......when it comes to this he's starting to fold...what you don't want to do is give them an inch..they'll take a mile...In business you can compromise, when it comes to our rights you can't compromise...it's a violation of his oath...it's outside of the scope of his powers "

Trump greenlighted and reinvigorated the gun grab cabal...it's as simple as that..and some of his most ardent supporters have noticed and are speaking out ..
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Re: Even Stewart Rhodes - the founder of Oath Keepers - is calling Bullshit on Trump's 2A Games
Nothing will happen. Trump is a businessman. Sometimes the best course of action is just to agree with your enemy, then do nothing. Just to get them to shut up.

Yes, Florida passed some stupid shit that will be overturned by the courts. They would've passed that crap no matter what Trump said.
 Quoting: OldWhiteGuy


That's true.

Trump has zero power to "make" legislation. Basically what he did was force the STATES to make whatever move they've been cooking up for the last several years.

The STATES. Where WE are the closest to those who make laws. Where WE have the loudest voice, the most influence. Where those who make laws must also live with them, and have to share communities with the rest of us.

Today the commies had millions of kids walk out of schools. As always, they're organized, they're grabbing the headlines.

Mark words: the commies will eventually win the day for their masters, because of their willingness to be seen and be heard. So far, they're who lawmakers are hearing from on this issue. Little future commie voters.





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