Did you ever learn about how they made the first maps into globes, it was one of the hardest things done. One thing I will tell you, not one real picture of the earth is real. The earth is not round as a ball, it may be huge for all we know, there have been people in South America who spent a few years going all over the globe or whatever you want to call it, and did not come up with a round earth, taking their own measurement they came up with something strange looking. These people were from all walks of the science field and this was their specialty, and first, they did not believe there was a problem, so, doing it themselves turned them into flat or something earth, kind of oval with an ice barrier and a land behind it, they were using air measurement too.

I don't know if these people are rights, the good reason why I don't know, I wasn't there at the time they measured and done all those pressure and level reading and a whole lot of the stuff, so how could I know for sure. Same goes to anyone who just takes others word for something they should do for themselves, you rely on others experience or writing and some of them took other people's words for all of it, and yes they can and do keep secrets, one of the secret keepers has a big G in the middle of a compass and square I think all the astronauts were in that club all I found anyway.

Some of my problems are the level of planes, it has to do with your eyesight and how far you can see, say a railroad track, looking on a flat area down the track you see it the rails coming closer and closer in appearance because you are not close enough to see how wide they are except the ones near you. If you are looking out in the ocean and watching ships, it the same effect, the ship does not go over the horizon it the person's vision that obscures the ship, use a telescope and watches it longer until the telescope can't help your eyesight anymore. These are normal fact easy for you to understand and check yourself. Look Out Mountain Tennessee you can see with builtin binoculars seven states, you can see them anyway the binoculars bring them closer.
Look Out Mountain is tall only not so tall that it should see seven states from it. On a small mountain call mostly a hill, I could see miles from there, when I say miles I mean farther than five to ten miles, nothing to bring them in closer. These little things and questions, it has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, I do not care which way if shaped, it could be flat, could be, or very huge and round, could be, or for that matter, it could be oblong, could be.


When I saw clouds going behind a full moon, I really knew something was wrong no kidding I even taped except I didn't print it and my other computer is down, I hope I can save it. If I want I can wait for another full moon and cloudy night with my camera. See, back in my childhood I had no lights filtering the lens of earth, the moon and stars looked as if you could reach out and touch them. Our world does not have too much light pollution, the ancients saw all the stars better because they had no light pollution.

They made astrolabes so they could tell time, know the months, eclipses of the sun and moon, stars like the north star, first one I saw was on clay or rock and they could not tell what it was, it had the marker around it, primitive yet very easy to recognize, the hole was in the center, all they had to do was put a stick in it, and understand. We also as children made sundials in the dirt outside to keep up with the time. Those smart people made a fully functional watch, calendar star chart, and timing of events in the heavens all in one small flat thing they could carry. Not only was it a great instrument and worked, but they could also leave home with it travel 500 miles and be able to find their way home again. No batteries to go dead either, I would not say these ancient people were not technological, have we got an instrument that we could use to do all the astrolabe can do, it can still be used, you just have to know where your stars are above you head at any given time from your home. They based it on flat earth they really did.

Now the moon I'll let you discover this on your own.

You should discover or find out if what you have been taught is correct, if it is, then you know just how it came about, now if you don't freak, find out what you can it still where you live and has not changed one bit, it just has a different appearance in your mind, actually it no boring.

I am not freaking on it nor am I pushing you to think it flat earth, as I said, I don't know, I know the math is wrong, water always level, the radio waves can cross the ocean, they have been doing this since the 1800s so they can shut up about it not being able to go over the earth curve I am not stupid as some, it can and did go over he curve before they change the information! From the US to the UK back and forth. And more so much more. Water leveling is easy, just get a bowl and make it clear bowl or jar, pour in water, set it on a hard surface that can be lifted, do the lift don't break the jar or bowl, see what happens no matter which way you lift it, just look at what it does.

I'll leave this now, it not about flat earth with me, it to make people think for themselves because people listened just to others we now have a bunch of young socialist in the USA.

You know if you put that part of round earth with snow around it in a super large hand, then that what I believe, he got it in his hands.