INCOMING: Oregon's New Gun Confiscation Ballot Measure | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76341693 United States 03/23/2018 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Relativity User ID: 76386002 United States 03/23/2018 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup, Pinned for further discussion...This is a big deal folks. If this gets traction, it will not be good. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76386680 United States 03/23/2018 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35676288 United States 03/23/2018 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well first off, it's illegal for state law to override federal law, particularly the constitution. Second, they did the same garbage in NY and 51 of the 52 Sheriffs refused to enforce the law stating it was illegal. It went through anyway, so now when cops pull you over and your coming back from the range, they just let you go. ...but still. Iron fist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52739063 United States 03/23/2018 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF you qualify, you’ll have the option to register every gun/magazine with the state & submit to a criminal background check, (at your own expense of course) or become a class B felon over night.. Quoting: DREADN0T They need to require psychiatric testing and a very expensive gun training course for anyone who wants to buy a weapon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17753079 United States 03/23/2018 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can GLP be the start of a 5 Million Americans March? Quoting: KingCrypto Can everyone come together and organize a march to Washington for a little spring cleaning? Please contact those who you know on social media with voices that can reach out to others and let's get organized. It's no use in writing or calling Congress anymore. They are too busy for us common people. So let's just go and see what's really happening up there and get things in order. Forget the march.... don't obey like a good citizen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an (so-called) assault weapons/large capacity magazine ban and it's about as bad as it gets. Quoting: DREADN0T Read it here: [link to oregonvotes.org] Ok, I'm confused. How can they try to make something that is totally against the constitution? Right to bear arms does not specify or exempt any weapon. There is no way this shit is passing- wont even make on the ballot I am guessing. “This is completely out of hand — I couldn’t believe it,” Oregon Rep. Bill Post, R-Keizer, told the Statesman Journal Tuesday night. “I’ve been told so many times by people in favor of gun control: ‘No one is coming to take your guns.’ This explicitly comes for your guns.” This got zero comment or help from anybody in Oregon's Democratic leadership," Post said. "The reason they're not supporting this is that they're not stupid. They know this would bring out the greatest red wave of votes in Oregon history." The challenge is not just getting signatures and people to vote for it — which won't be easy," he said. "The bigger issue is that this will be challenged very strongly in the courts. "This goes much father than anything that's been proposed in Oregon's political culture, and I think it will be a pretty tough sell," Moore said. [link to www.statesmanjournal.com (secure)] Oh, and look who is being it... imagine that. "We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76378802 United States 03/23/2018 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the cock sucker behind it- Oh look, here is his phone number! [link to bethisrael-pdx.org] Oh, he's from New York too- imagine that! Maybe he should move back there? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65257520 United States 03/23/2018 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF you qualify, you’ll have the option to register every gun/magazine with the state & submit to a criminal background check, (at your own expense of course) or become a class B felon over night.. Quoting: DREADN0T They need to require psychiatric testing and a very expensive gun training course for anyone who wants to buy a weapon. Oh, yeah... Right... With Globalist Communists setting the parameters as to WHAT qualifies for a psychiatric condition. The 2nd Amendment does NOT say: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless the individual fails a government mandated psychiatric examination." I'm pretty sure that this would be the exact OPPOSITE of what the Founders intended, as they were almost all in agreement at keeping government as small as possible, and subject to the people. |
Solid Soul User ID: 75956414 United States 03/23/2018 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the cock sucker behind it- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37831930 Oh look, here is his phone number! [link to bethisrael-pdx.org] Oh, he's from New York too- imagine that! Maybe he should move back there? Looks like a real traditional sect- (that is him jumping around and singing like a homo) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF you qualify, you’ll have the option to register every gun/magazine with the state & submit to a criminal background check, (at your own expense of course) or become a class B felon over night.. Quoting: DREADN0T They need to require psychiatric testing and a very expensive gun training course for anyone who wants to buy a weapon. Here's an idea... go fuck yourself right in the ass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the cock sucker behind it- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37831930 Oh look, here is his phone number! [link to bethisrael-pdx.org] Oh, he's from New York too- imagine that! Maybe he should move back there? Looks like a real traditional sect- (that is him jumping around and singing like a homo) Yep, he's a homo... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65257520 United States 03/23/2018 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, everyone from Kalifornia is now here. This place is INFESTED with these maggots and cockroaches and locusts. The sad part is, they are also infesting the places I want to move to. You can't get away from these fucking pus-infected shitbags. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, everyone from Kalifornia is now here. This place is INFESTED with these maggots and cockroaches and locusts. The sad part is, they are also infesting the places I want to move to. You can't get away from these fucking pus-infected shitbags. Fucking giant Raiders decals on peoples back windows, taco wagons every damn mile, and people diving like fucking idiots weaving in and out of traffic. Our rent has gone up 50% in the last 3 years because of all these fucks. The good news is they are starting to puss-out as they aren't used to months of rain an living on $10 an hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37831930 United States 03/23/2018 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire country has gone full fucking retard... what is happening? Trump batter start cracking the whip or he's gonna have a big can of worms in hos lap. [link to gunowners.org (secure)] In a secret meeting with only four participants, congressional leaders tacked gun control onto a massive government (Omnibus) funding bill. This is not surprising, given that the four “deciders” were Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell. |
Copperhead User ID: 76243660 United States 03/23/2018 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF you qualify, you’ll have the option to register every gun/magazine with the state & submit to a criminal background check, (at your own expense of course) or become a class B felon over night.. If I'm going to turn into a class B felon for my weapons I will go all out and make them 3 round burst or full auto. What will they do, make me a class B+ felon? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75806371 United States 03/23/2018 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This bill was OBVIOUSLY written by communist tyrants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65257520 Read this bullshit for yourself! [link to oregonvotes.org] Yep that's pretty shocking. 120 days to turn it in or you're a felon. Use em or lose em |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75806371 United States 03/23/2018 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the cock sucker behind it- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37831930 Oh look, here is his phone number! [link to bethisrael-pdx.org] Oh, he's from New York too- imagine that! Maybe he should move back there? Rabbi take-your-guns can try over and c over til he gets his way because the sheeple worship his race |
DREADN0T (OP) User ID: 76378997 United States 03/23/2018 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no way this shit is passing- wont even make on the ballot I am guessing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37831930 “This is completely out of hand — I couldn’t believe it,” Oregon Rep. Bill Post, R-Keizer, told the Statesman Journal Tuesday night. “I’ve been told so many times by people in favor of gun control: ‘No one is coming to take your guns.’ This explicitly comes for your guns.” This got zero comment or help from anybody in Oregon's Democratic leadership," Post said. "The reason they're not supporting this is that they're not stupid. They know this would bring out the greatest red wave of votes in Oregon history." The challenge is not just getting signatures and people to vote for it — which won't be easy," he said. "The bigger issue is that this will be challenged very strongly in the courts. "This goes much father than anything that's been proposed in Oregon's political culture, and I think it will be a pretty tough sell," Moore said. [link to www.statesmanjournal.com (secure)] This is good, I hadn't seen this. Oh, and look who is being it... imagine that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37831930 "We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners. Figures.. 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. |
DREADN0T (OP) User ID: 76378997 United States 03/23/2018 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup, Pinned for further discussion...This is a big deal folks. If this gets traction, it will not be good. Quoting: Relativity Thanks for the pin Last Edited by DREADN0T on 03/23/2018 02:51 AM 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65257520 United States 03/23/2018 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This bill was OBVIOUSLY written by communist tyrants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65257520 Read this bullshit for yourself! [link to oregonvotes.org] Yep that's pretty shocking. 120 days to turn it in or you're a felon. Use em or lose em Well, the 2nd Amendment WAS included in the Bill of Rights, because it may become necessary to DEFEND those rights, from evil power-lusting scum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65257520 United States 03/23/2018 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire country has gone full fucking retard... what is happening? Trump batter start cracking the whip or he's gonna have a big can of worms in hos lap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37831930 [link to gunowners.org (secure)] In a secret meeting with only four participants, congressional leaders tacked gun control onto a massive government (Omnibus) funding bill. This is not surprising, given that the four “deciders” were Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell. These people need to be removed for violating their oaths of office. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76384898 Ireland 03/23/2018 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76355057 United States 03/23/2018 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oregon constitution: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76355057 Article I Section 1. Natural rights inherent in people. We declare that all men, when they form a social compact are equal in right: that all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; and they have at all times a right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper.— Section 27. Right to bear arms; military subordinate to civil power. The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [sic] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power[.] just shows you they violate their own law, they forget they work for the people, tell them to stick it and vote them out of office. So how can this be? How can they make law that is in direct conflict with the constitution? 18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government US Code Notes prev | next Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.) The Oregon State constitution was established before 18 usc 2385. Must examine the federal 10th amendment, the intent of the declaration of Independence and also ex post facto provisions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76385685 Sweden 03/23/2018 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an (so-called) assault weapons/large capacity magazine ban and it's about as bad as it gets. Quoting: DREADN0T Read it here: [link to oregonvotes.org] Ok, I'm confused. How can they try to make something that is totally against the constitution? Right to bear arms does not specify or exempt any weapon. There is no way this shit is passing- wont even make on the ballot I am guessing. “This is completely out of hand — I couldn’t believe it,” Oregon Rep. Bill Post, R-Keizer, told the Statesman Journal Tuesday night. “I’ve been told so many times by people in favor of gun control: ‘No one is coming to take your guns.’ This explicitly comes for your guns.” This got zero comment or help from anybody in Oregon's Democratic leadership," Post said. "The reason they're not supporting this is that they're not stupid. They know this would bring out the greatest red wave of votes in Oregon history." The challenge is not just getting signatures and people to vote for it — which won't be easy," he said. "The bigger issue is that this will be challenged very strongly in the courts. "This goes much father than anything that's been proposed in Oregon's political culture, and I think it will be a pretty tough sell," Moore said. [link to www.statesmanjournal.com (secure)] Oh, and look who is being it... imagine that. "We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners. “We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners. “But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.” They said the same thing in Russia a century ago. Almost managed to wipe out all of the Christian population in Ukraine after that. So we know what is coming. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65257520 United States 03/23/2018 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, you are reading it right, because it IS fucking crazy. These rabid communist pukes want to turn thousands and thousands of people into instant Felons. At least 3/4ths of the people I know have weapons that are described in that abomination of a traitorous bill. And I don't know any one of them that would allow themselves to be disarmed, or register their firearms. They've got their work cut out for them, if they think they are going to confiscate guns. This is the absolute threshold for many people. Cross that line, and it's game on for many. If anything, these idiots are going to GET people killed. Maybe they've forgotten that the American Revolution started when the British tried to confiscate powder, shot, and arms. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65257520 United States 03/23/2018 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an (so-called) assault weapons/large capacity magazine ban and it's about as bad as it gets. Quoting: DREADN0T Read it here: [link to oregonvotes.org] Ok, I'm confused. How can they try to make something that is totally against the constitution? Right to bear arms does not specify or exempt any weapon. There is no way this shit is passing- wont even make on the ballot I am guessing. “This is completely out of hand — I couldn’t believe it,” Oregon Rep. Bill Post, R-Keizer, told the Statesman Journal Tuesday night. “I’ve been told so many times by people in favor of gun control: ‘No one is coming to take your guns.’ This explicitly comes for your guns.” This got zero comment or help from anybody in Oregon's Democratic leadership," Post said. "The reason they're not supporting this is that they're not stupid. They know this would bring out the greatest red wave of votes in Oregon history." The challenge is not just getting signatures and people to vote for it — which won't be easy," he said. "The bigger issue is that this will be challenged very strongly in the courts. "This goes much father than anything that's been proposed in Oregon's political culture, and I think it will be a pretty tough sell," Moore said. [link to www.statesmanjournal.com (secure)] Oh, and look who is being it... imagine that. "We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners. “We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners. “But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.” They said the same thing in Russia a century ago. Almost managed to wipe out all of the Christian population in Ukraine after that. So we know what is coming. The funny thing is.. These are NOT even "Assault Weapons". And secondly, the 2nd Amendment isn't ABOUT target shooting, or hunting, or even protection from common criminals. Those are just SIDE benefits. The 2nd Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights to give the "Militia" (the people) the ability to repel a standing army. PERIOD. Fucking END of story. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76134048 United States 03/23/2018 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |