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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72781511 United States 03/23/2018 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day. Quoting: LoneStarRising It was a big middle finger to Trump voters and a major bitch slap to Trump from Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer. They are probably laughing their asses off right now while popping the cork on the champagne. Ryan and McConnell should be strung up by their testicles. They just f*ck their own party and President out of loyalty to the establishment. We already knew McConnell and Ryan are rats. Rats are going to do what rats do. Seems the POTUS is a little ratty too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45861797 United States 03/23/2018 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the reality of what just happened. But idiots like you will follow the script that the establishment wrote out for you. They win. You lose. He didn't have to sign it. Otherwise you're suggesting a president absolutely just has to let everyone in Congress on both fake sides to put in whatever they want because he can't let the govt shut down. That's complete bullshit. You're shilling. More money for the military to protect them. CHECK Ability to take guns just by saying someone is crazy. CHECK Tons of money so women can abort babies. CHECK A pay raise for themselves. CHECK |
LoneStarRising (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 76376721 United States 03/23/2018 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the reality of what just happened. But idiots like you will follow the script that the establishment wrote out for you. They win. You lose. He didn't have to sign it. Otherwise you're suggesting a president absolutely just has to let everyone in Congress on both fake sides to put in whatever they want because he can't let the govt shut down. That's complete bullshit. You're shilling. More money for the military to protect them. CHECK Ability to take guns just by saying someone is crazy. CHECK Tons of money so women can abort babies. CHECK A pay raise for themselves. CHECK I don't think Trump realized that Ryan and McConnell would f*ck him over. He believed them when they said, this is the best we can get. LoneStarRising |
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beeches User ID: 74276477 United States 03/23/2018 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if Republicans lose seats, who will be in the saddle? didn't know hillaryites could ride I feel President Trump did what he knew was political anathema to his base. He did not do the thing that would have given him approval from his base. He sacrificed his popularity with his base. I feel the reason he did that is nothing good. war on the horizon comes to mind... there may be totally different and hidden reasons for him to disappoint us. not for one instant do I believe he was happy with what he did today. Last Edited by beeches on 03/23/2018 03:51 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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LoneStarRising (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 76376721 United States 03/23/2018 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump should now realize that leaders of his own party are willing to f*ck him and his base to save their precious establishment swamp. Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me. Quoting: LoneStarRising McConnell and Ryan will be happy to be minority leaders again so long as the establishment survives. They are much happier being in the minority anyway. LoneStarRising |
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LoneStarRising (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 76376721 United States 03/23/2018 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if Republicans lose seats, who will be in the saddle? Quoting: beeches didn't know hillaryites could ride I feel President Trump did what he knew was political anathema to his base. He did not do the thing that would have given him approval from his base. He sacrificed his popularity with his base. I feel the reason he did that is nothing good. war on the horizon comes to mind... there may be totally different and hidden reasons for him to disappoint us. not for one instant do I believe he was happy with what he did today. I am angry with him in that he did not know how far Ryan and McConnell would go to screw him and his base. Just like 9/11 it was a lack of imagination as to how far the enemy would go. Ryan and McConnell have now shown that they are clearly the enemies of Trump and his base. LoneStarRising |
ElleMira User ID: 74747800 United States 03/23/2018 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day. Quoting: LoneStarRising Agreed. Today felt like a punch to the stomach. I feel bamboozled by Trump but it does not change my values. It does not sway me over to the libtarded globalists. It is why Hillary lost because Americans are sick and tired of the globalists. The deep state may have gotten to Trump, may have coerced him into signing the bill but that doesn't change who we are and why we supported him to begin with. No matter what the deep state, NWO globalists do, they will not change my heart and mind against the USA. I will never bow to them, give up my guns, give up on freedom of speech, put other nations before my country, allow infiltrators to destroy my country or allow them to corral me into their agenda like sheep. There's so much more I'd like to say on this subject but m strapped for time & in the middle of something right now. Anyway, chin up to all those that want to Make America Great. We're all in this battle together against the deep state and there are more of us than there are them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75610533 United States 03/23/2018 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what bothers me most is that is being normalized that 2000 page fuck you bills are being rammed through without being read. Who is writing these? Why aren't they being read and debated thoroughly? Why can't items be line item vetoed? Our country is being held hostage by the debt. The founders warned of central banls. And now the federal reserve has had us by the balls for more than a century. It's time to dust off the Declaration of Independence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75610533 United States 03/23/2018 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault. Quoting: LoneStarRising I suspect a lot of that is orchestrated, cleverly contrived, and cattle follow the herd. Manufactured consensus. |
Lily o' the Valley User ID: 76391076 United States 03/23/2018 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How long did they work on this disaster? I mean they new we needed a budget wtf were they doing all this time?I haven't even read the bill I'ts so long! Quoting: the deplorable ar-15 nut Plan A to get rid of Trump was Mueller. Now that the result of the Mueller investigation is in question, they move to Plan B. Nothing matters more than that they keep business as usual in the swamp. True this. Well,the ammo and arms mfgrs can put their layoff plans on hold. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
LoneStarRising (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 76376721 United States 03/23/2018 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault. Quoting: LoneStarRising I suspect a lot of that is orchestrated, cleverly contrived, and cattle follow the herd. Manufactured consensus. There are so many poison pills in the omnibus targeted at Trump's base. The entire bill was crafted primarily for one purpose. And it seems to be working. Ryan and McConnell have been planning this a long time. LoneStarRising |
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Lily o' the Valley User ID: 76391076 United States 03/23/2018 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what bothers me most is that is being normalized that 2000 page fuck you bills are being rammed through without being read. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75610533 Who is writing these? Why aren't they being read and debated thoroughly? Why can't items be line item vetoed? Our country is being held hostage by the debt. The founders warned of central banls. And now the federal reserve has had us by the balls for more than a century. It's time to dust off the Declaration of Independence. Yup. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56467678 United Kingdom 03/23/2018 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump had heat on him (McDougal), they made him bend to their will. Probably she got vids and more to embarass him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56467678 I don't think he even cares about these issues nor does the majority of his base. You don't think he cares if she got vids of his sweaty ass pumping her PB ho ass? I think he does somehow, and thought likely he had it taken care of by the payment. The reality is some Soros dollars have now find their way to her and she's had a change of heart. |
ChildofFather[some day] User ID: 74905618 United States 03/23/2018 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day. Quoting: LoneStarRising OH Please, they are all sipping their cognac, smoking their cigars, and laughing at us and how they just pulled off the biggest scam of the century. It is all there between the line. REally. :wwjd: Pray, Pray, Pray Always. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65918617 Ireland 03/23/2018 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can understand why everone is feeling disappointed and let down but I feel so sorry for trump. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. They planned this for him to come out of it badly no matter what he did. They are relentless in their efforts. I hope the rumours of him being sought out to run for potus by the military are true and they assured him to take their funding and it would be worth it in the long run. It is only a 6 month budget afterall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45004603 United States 03/23/2018 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP's main goal from this day forth should not be about Quoting: jake Trump, but about getting Republicans out off the Senate Maybe this was a good thing and will cause a major house cleaning of establishment republicans in the midterms. We may have to suffer through a couple terms of democrat control, but we have done it before. I remember in 1994 when the republicans took control of the house of representatives for the first time, a lib coworker was happy because many of the establishment moderate/conservative democrats were swept out. He said now they could begin to replace them with true liberals. It took a couple of election cycles and look what they have now. It could work the same way for conservatives. |
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Lily o' the Valley User ID: 76391076 United States 03/23/2018 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if Republicans lose seats, who will be in the saddle? Quoting: beeches didn't know hillaryites could ride I feel President Trump did what he knew was political anathema to his base. He did not do the thing that would have given him approval from his base. He sacrificed his popularity with his base. I feel the reason he did that is nothing good. war on the horizon comes to mind... there may be totally different and hidden reasons for him to disappoint us. not for one instant do I believe he was happy with what he did today. I think you are tight on the beam, Beeches. Internal or extetnal war, it will be at the insistance of the globalists. We knew they would not give up easily. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68560474 United States 03/23/2018 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP's main goal from this day forth should not be about Quoting: jake Trump, but about getting Republicans out off the Senate Maybe this was a good thing and will cause a major house cleaning of establishment republicans in the midterms. We may have to suffer through a couple terms of democrat control, but we have done it before. I remember in 1994 when the republicans took control of the house of representatives for the first time, a lib coworker was happy because many of the establishment moderate/conservative democrats were swept out. He said now they could begin to replace them with true liberals. It took a couple of election cycles and look what they have now. It could work the same way for conservatives. You don't get it do you? We will NEVER get a say in government again. Trumps credibility to drain the swamp is over. The investigations into the swamp are OVER! The progressives will abuse every single one of us until the civil war restores our country to its rightful owners. |
Lily o' the Valley User ID: 76391076 United States 03/23/2018 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :MV8zNzkyNDY4XzY4MDQ4OTMyXzMxQjlCQzE4] Quoting: ChildofFatherI don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day. Quoting: LoneStarRising OH Please, they are all sipping their cognac, smoking their cigars, and laughing at us and how they just pulled off the biggest scam of the century. It is all there between the line. REally. No, Obama was the scam of the century. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |