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Oh, it's another one of these posts. " I was a supporter 20 seconds ago, but here is why I changed.. "

If you voted for Trump, you knew he would be a bull in a china shop. Let alone, so Hillary wouldn't be elected. You'all keep ignoring this when it suits you, but it's still better than her.

Do people really think if someone campaigns on "anti-war" it will happen? Is there only one variable to the equation, the presidents promise ?

As we have found out, there are many layers to government and those who have the ability to affect change, without notice. Thinking the world is ending due to a string of appointments is extremely dramatic.

Bolton is needed because he does not talk. No leaks, no dissent, no chaos. Mission accomplished.
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^^this.
Iím tired of shit threads with shills or idiots spewing shit content.

If people think theyíre going to die in ww3 (lol) youíre contacting the wrong place. Ainít shit glpíers got to do with that. Contact your congressman-heíll save ya
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Is it your knee jerk reaction to call anyone you disagree with a shill? lol
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No, not at all. I donít have a problem with your opinions. I feel youíre overreacting a bit but thatís your prerogative.
This thread is infiltrated with idiot shill opinions that are shit for content. Organize for America paid shills with little to no political understandings...& itís obvious.
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Trump had issues with leakers and people not doing what they were told...throwing in Bolton in this circle dont make sense at all...unless a war with Iran is on the horizon and thats what Bolton stands for.
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It certainly does not make sense considering what Trump campaigned on.
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I remember it vividly because it was one of the main reasons I stayed home from the polls. I like most of what candidate Trump had to say, but the inconsistencies and red flags were there. I haven't found the interview yet, but I did find this quote from newly elected Trump:

"ďI think John Boltonís a good man,Ē Trump replied. ďI watched him yesterday, actually, and he was very good in defending me in some of my views, and very, very strong. And Iíve always liked John Bolton. Well, we are thinking about it, Hugh. I will say that. We are thinking about it. I mean, the negative is what I told you. But we are seriously thinking about it.Ē"

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Bolton is better than McMaster any day.... I'm part of Trump's base and I fully support that move. Making sure we have America's interest first in all cabinet appointments is a promise finally becoming a reality.
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Trump had issues with leakers and people not doing what they were told...throwing in Bolton in this circle dont make sense at all...unless a war with Iran is on the horizon and thats what Bolton stands for.
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It certainly does not make sense considering what Trump campaigned on.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


I remember it vividly because it was one of the main reasons I stayed home from the polls. I like most of what candidate Trump had to say, but the inconsistencies and red flags were there. I haven't found the interview yet, but I did find this quote from newly elected Trump:

"ďI think John Boltonís a good man,Ē Trump replied. ďI watched him yesterday, actually, and he was very good in defending me in some of my views, and very, very strong. And Iíve always liked John Bolton. Well, we are thinking about it, Hugh. I will say that. We are thinking about it. I mean, the negative is what I told you. But we are seriously thinking about it.Ē"

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Hmmmm. . . . almost sounds like an ego thing for Trump to like Bolton.
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Fool me once shame on Trump

fool me twice three four a thousand times

Trump took America for fools. He needs to be recalled impeached. Whatever it takes.
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So you agree with CNN... good job communist.

Who do you want to replace him with?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions


I'd like to replace him with the Trump who promised to stop empire building.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
 Quoting: OldWhiteGuy


Trumps not stupid. He needs someone that will back him up the instant something happens. That doesn't mean he will be giving Bolton a long leash though. Imagine if North Korea sent a nuclear missile headed straight for Washington or your home town. Would you want to have someone in there arguing with the President about which button to press.
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Is your post serious? You really think if a nuclear missile is heading toward us, anyone would argue with Trump about what to do?????

I think perhaps your critical thinking skills need to be honed.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua



This is exactly the problem and we need to address it. The other side, the side that's out in the streets today, the ones you voted against and the ones who constantly advocate for the rights of the world; subtract the citizens of the USA and the papers that make us. They ALWAYS question the president or his supporters. Every issue is an issue of emotion, morality, virtue, justice and righteousness. All of it lacking logic, process or patience.

I don't need to explain to you that dissent just makes the other side stronger, as you said, you worked on the campaign. But again, if you tear Trump down, who replaces him. Did you think that one out? Everyone should do that before they put emotion to keys. Seriously.

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Bolton is better than McMaster any day.... I'm part of Trump's base and I fully support that move. Making sure we have America's interest first in all cabinet appointments is a promise finally becoming a reality.
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How the heck does Bolton put America first when he supported a stupid invasion of Iraq in 2003???? Bolton puts the military industrial complex first, that's for sure.
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EVERYONE supported the invasion of iraq in 2003.

If you disagree you're just young, stupid or delusional.
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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
 Quoting: OldWhiteGuy


wrong. president turnover is building his perfect team. why you changin your tune now josey?
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Fool me once shame on Trump

fool me twice three four a thousand times

Trump took America for fools. He needs to be recalled impeached. Whatever it takes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75503829


So you agree with CNN... good job communist.

Who do you want to replace him with?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions


I'd like to replace him with the Trump who promised to stop empire building.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions





Ummm, okay. No problem.

Trump has not stopped the mindless war in Afghanistan. Instead he sent MORE troops and is continuing Obama's policy of spending more money on our troops fighting over there.

Trump has made so many belligerent remarks toward North Korea, some sort of limited nuclear conflict seems almost inevitable now, especially with war monger John Bolton at the helm now.

Trump has not stopped our empire building in any meaningful way. Instead he seems content to allow the Bush/Obama foreign policy continue unfettered.

Not what he campaigned on.
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Fool me once shame on Trump

fool me twice three four a thousand times

Trump took America for fools. He needs to be recalled impeached. Whatever it takes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75503829


So you agree with CNN... good job communist.

Who do you want to replace him with?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions


I'd like to replace him with the Trump who promised to stop empire building.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions


Wow, you used Latin. You must be really smart. why not try declining it, maybe you could go pull Wheelock out and teach us all a real lesson!
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EVERYONE supported the invasion of iraq in 2003.

If you disagree you're just young, stupid or delusional.
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Bull. I opposed that war in 2003 and refused to vote for Bush in 2004 because of his betrayal in promising not to engage in empire building.

Trump is doing exactly what W did, promise not to empire build as a candidate and become a vociferous military industrial complex supporter as President.

Disappointing.
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EVERYONE supported the invasion of iraq in 2003.

If you disagree you're just young, stupid or delusional.
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Wow. I didn't think the posts bashing OP in this thread could get any stupider but then comes you with your insane claim that everyone supported the Iraq war. I'm guessing you forgot about all the nationwide protests when the war started...
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So you agree with CNN... good job communist.

Who do you want to replace him with?
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I'd like to replace him with the Trump who promised to stop empire building.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions





Ummm, okay. No problem.

Trump has not stopped the mindless war in Afghanistan. Instead he sent MORE troops and is continuing Obama's policy of spending more money on our troops fighting over there.

Trump has made so many belligerent remarks toward North Korea, some sort of limited nuclear conflict seems almost inevitable now, especially with war monger John Bolton at the helm now.

Trump has not stopped our empire building in any meaningful way. Instead he seems content to allow the Bush/Obama foreign policy continue unfettered.

Not what he campaigned on.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


I wanted to take you seriously, but it feels like a grown mans pity party about something that can't even be specifically defined, let alone will matter in 24 hours from now. Just like you wanted to wake up and have people listen to you complain about something you can feign wisdom about.
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EVERYONE supported the invasion of iraq in 2003.

If you disagree you're just young, stupid or delusional.
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Bull. I opposed that war in 2003 and refused to vote for Bush in 2004 because of his betrayal in promising not to engage in empire building.

Trump is doing exactly what W did, promise not to empire build as a candidate and become a vociferous military industrial complex supporter as President.

Disappointing.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


red team blue team bull shite. I agree it sucks. They are all imperialist swine. none of those putzes care about us little guys. we're the board for the game, we're not even pawns.
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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
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I don't agree with you on Bolton just being there in an empty seat. If you do a little digging and follow his ties it's pretty obvious he has high roller backers. He's a dyed in the wool Zionist,he never shuts up and will be telling Trump what he is supposed to do. I see Trump as a boss that delegates. This is Trump's m.o. ,how he built his empire. My worry is we now have one of the chief proponents of the Iraq War,a war that Trump so vehemently opposed and railed against during the year leading up to his election. The appointment of Bolton is a sign that Trump has been compromised. Another shock and awe 9-11 is possible to get the sheep moving in the right direction.
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Rand Paul comments on Trump's nomination of Bolton for SOS in 2016.

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Watch what he does. His first order of business will be to purge Obama appointees.

See Gateway Pundit article. Cant post links on this tablet.

He is staunchly anti Muslim, he has appeared with Pam Geller.

Looks like a mixed bag to me,
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I'd like to replace him with the Trump who promised to stop empire building.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions





Ummm, okay. No problem.

Trump has not stopped the mindless war in Afghanistan. Instead he sent MORE troops and is continuing Obama's policy of spending more money on our troops fighting over there.

Trump has made so many belligerent remarks toward North Korea, some sort of limited nuclear conflict seems almost inevitable now, especially with war monger John Bolton at the helm now.

Trump has not stopped our empire building in any meaningful way. Instead he seems content to allow the Bush/Obama foreign policy continue unfettered.

Not what he campaigned on.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


I wanted to take you seriously, but it feels like a grown mans pity party about something that can't even be specifically defined, let alone will matter in 24 hours from now. Just like you wanted to wake up and have people listen to you complain about something you can feign wisdom about.
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Bolton has been loudly calling for regime change in Iran for approximately the last decade. This is serious, and Bolton is a serious danger to the USA. There needs to be 10 pinned threads on this, not just one.
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I'd like to replace him with the Trump who promised to stop empire building.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions





Ummm, okay. No problem.

Trump has not stopped the mindless war in Afghanistan. Instead he sent MORE troops and is continuing Obama's policy of spending more money on our troops fighting over there.

Trump has made so many belligerent remarks toward North Korea, some sort of limited nuclear conflict seems almost inevitable now, especially with war monger John Bolton at the helm now.

Trump has not stopped our empire building in any meaningful way. Instead he seems content to allow the Bush/Obama foreign policy continue unfettered.

Not what he campaigned on.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


I wanted to take you seriously, but it feels like a grown mans pity party about something that can't even be specifically defined, let alone will matter in 24 hours from now. Just like you wanted to wake up and have people listen to you complain about something you can feign wisdom about.
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Not sure why you feel ad hominem attacks is an appropriate response to the specific reasons I gave of Trump empire building as President.
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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
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Wait.... You thought Trump would make America great again didn't you?

Epiclol

I bet you thought we would build a wall come on don't lie, you really believed it!

Epiclol

And you probably thought he would arrest his cousin Hillary?

Epiclol

Did you think he would end costly middle Eastern wars?

Epiclol



Boy Trump really fooled you

Epiclol
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This comment by you is getting REALLY old.
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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


Not only the embrace of a total Bush family lap dog and sterling ahole like Bolton, but the appointment of the Sikh Slut to the cabinet. Niki Haley was a signal to all that Drumpf is a neo con war monger. After the orange turd assaulted Syria over a transparent lie, the fact that hump trump and take a dump shills persist show how deep we are into a developed idiocracy.

I half way believed Drumpf when he campaigned against the Neo Cons. I voted for the orange turd. I, unlike Drumpf, served in the USMC. Do not go calling me a share blue shill, Trumptards. I am 65 years old and I am calling bullshit on Drumpf and Trumptards. Now, go hump Trump and take a dump. This country is finished in the current form. If you do not realize it now, you are brain dead.
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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
 Quoting: OldWhiteGuy


I don't agree with you on Bolton just being there in an empty seat. If you do a little digging and follow his ties it's pretty obvious he has high roller backers. He's a dyed in the wool Zionist,he never shuts up and will be telling Trump what he is supposed to do. I see Trump as a boss that delegates. This is Trump's m.o. ,how he built his empire. My worry is we now have one of the chief proponents of the Iraq War,a war that Trump so vehemently opposed and railed against during the year leading up to his election. The appointment of Bolton is a sign that Trump has been compromised. Another shock and awe 9-11 is possible to get the sheep moving in the right direction.
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Thank you. That's exactly what concerns me.
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This video shows Boton's character.

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There was life many years before Q! you dickwad. Back to mommy with you.
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To clarify, AC is in alignment with CNN and the criminal leftists who seek impeachment. Are you?

Second, state specific example of President Trump "empire building". Not Bolton, Our President.

Remember posts just like yours about Tillerson? McMaster? Cohn? Ad infinitum...?
 Quoting: Beyond Perceptions





Ummm, okay. No problem.

Trump has not stopped the mindless war in Afghanistan. Instead he sent MORE troops and is continuing Obama's policy of spending more money on our troops fighting over there.

Trump has made so many belligerent remarks toward North Korea, some sort of limited nuclear conflict seems almost inevitable now, especially with war monger John Bolton at the helm now.

Trump has not stopped our empire building in any meaningful way. Instead he seems content to allow the Bush/Obama foreign policy continue unfettered.

Not what he campaigned on.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


I wanted to take you seriously, but it feels like a grown mans pity party about something that can't even be specifically defined, let alone will matter in 24 hours from now. Just like you wanted to wake up and have people listen to you complain about something you can feign wisdom about.
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Bolton has been loudly calling for regime change in Iran for approximately the last decade. This is serious, and Bolton is a serious danger to the USA. There needs to be 10 pinned threads on this, not just one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389035


Agreed! This is a huge shift for Trump and an utter betrayal of what he campaigned on!
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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua




Wait.... You thought Trump would make America great again didn't you?

Epiclol

I bet you thought we would build a wall come on don't lie, you really believed it!

Epiclol

And you probably thought he would arrest his cousin Hillary?

Epiclol

Did you think he would end costly middle Eastern wars?

Epiclol



Boy Trump really fooled you

Epiclol
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I never trusted Trump. But I sure wish I would've been the one wrong about Trump rather than his supporters. We'd be in a much better situation.
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Re: Trump's Appointment of John Bolton A Betrayal of Trump's Base
Trump's staffing actions are hard to figure out.

On the surface, Bolton seems like a total contradiction to Trump's stance against "stupid politician" wars since Bolton was among the 9/11 PNAC conspirators for that war.

What I've learned to do with Trump is ignore his words as much as possible, ignore his cabinet selections, and focus on his actions.

E.g., yesterday he signed a 2000-page pile of crap he didn't have to sign.

Chalk up a bad action.
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Re: Trump's Appointment of John Bolton A Betrayal of Trump's Base
Trump's staffing actions are hard to figure out.

On the surface, Bolton seems like a total contradiction to Trump's stance against "stupid politician" wars since Bolton was among the 9/11 PNAC conspirators for that war.

What I've learned to do with Trump is ignore his words as much as possible, ignore his cabinet selections, and focus on his actions.

E.g., yesterday he signed a 2000-page pile of crap he didn't have to sign.

Chalk up a bad action.
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Trump signing a horrible budget bill and appointing an ultra Neo con war hawk seems like we may as well have voted for Hillary. Yes, it's that bad.
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Re: Trump's Appointment of John Bolton A Betrayal of Trump's Base
EVERYONE supported the invasion of iraq in 2003.

If you disagree you're just young, stupid or delusional.
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Bull. I opposed that war in 2003 and refused to vote for Bush in 2004 because of his betrayal in promising not to engage in empire building.

Trump is doing exactly what W did, promise not to empire build as a candidate and become a vociferous military industrial complex supporter as President.

Disappointing.
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Obama also campaigned on peace.





GLP