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I predict the Bolton appointment will be rescinded by Thursday.
His ties to Cambridge Analytica combined with how unpopular he is even among Republicans will make Trump withdraw the offer.
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Hell it dont even matter, murica's done gone full retard.
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current narrative key phrases



'I used to be a trump supporter '


' he has betrayed his base '


if the narrative is being peddled

somebody somewhere needs you to believe this
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clappa
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I don't know what the point of that post it. I did used to be a Trump Supporter, and not just some temp Trump supporter who only voted for him. I spent weeks toiling away at the local Trump headquarters here in Oregon during the primaries. I attended a rally in Eugene. What kind of narrative do you think I'm peddling? I'm simply trying to find out how many people think the Bolton appointment is a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on. If I'm wrong, I'd like to hear from long time Trump supporters as to why I am wrong, because right now this whole Boltons thing has gotten me pretty disappointed.
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Trumps brother went to a juice fraternity, do we need to say more? Apparently the lemmings just arent gonna get it- ever.
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They wont. And it doesnt matter. Its all so fkd up now theyre just part of the overall background noise of doom.
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I want to thank o.p. for a great thread and just trying to have an adult discussion on Bolton. You did a wonderful job and just tried to hear from the base. When insults rained down you ignored them,that's how you do it. I just wanted to say "thanks" while this thread is still alive.clappa
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I want to thank o.p. for a great thread and just trying to have an adult discussion on Bolton. You did a wonderful job and just tried to hear from the base. When insults rained down you ignored them,that's how you do it. I just wanted to say "thanks" while this thread is still alive.clappa
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Thank you. I did not mean to insult any current Trump supporter. I just wanted to find out what other people thought. I'm certainly glad Hillary did not win, but I'd be lying if I said Trump's recent actions haven't rattled me. I don't know why people take this so personally to the point that they can only insult someone who is expressing doubts about Trump's recent conduct. I still believe in what Trump campaigned on. I just doubt Trump believes in it anymore.
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Trumps brother went to a juice fraternity, do we need to say more? Apparently the lemmings just arent gonna get it- ever.
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Fred Trump admitted his paternal family were cryptos.Trump was joined at the hip with Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn collaborated and operated in Mossad extortion and blackmail. Trump’s favorite little girl married Jared Kushner and converted to a Sneerson Lubatcher adherent. Trump and Bibi are big allies and use the same Shin Bet intelligence operatives. Trump appoints rabid Israel firsters and neo cons, and you hump Trump firsters think he is the second coming of Buford Pusser, draining the swamp. You are deluded.
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It’s a betrayal to all Americans with the exception of Zionists. They love war. “Jesus is coming! “We will take over the world” duet fanatics.
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Trumps brother went to a juice fraternity, do we need to say more? Apparently the lemmings just arent gonna get it- ever.
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Fred Trump admitted his paternal family were cryptos.Trump was joined at the hip with Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn collaborated and operated in Mossad extortion and blackmail. Trump’s favorite little girl married Jared Kushner and converted to a Sneerson Lubatcher adherent. Trump and Bibi are big allies and use the same Shin Bet intelligence operatives. Trump appoints rabid Israel firsters and neo cons, and you hump Trump firsters think he is the second coming of Buford Pusser, draining the swamp. You are deluded.
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They won’t listen but thank you for posting the truth.
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Trumps brother went to a juice fraternity, do we need to say more? Apparently the lemmings just arent gonna get it- ever.
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Fred Trump admitted his paternal family were cryptos.Trump was joined at the hip with Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn collaborated and operated in Mossad extortion and blackmail. Trump’s favorite little girl married Jared Kushner and converted to a Sneerson Lubatcher adherent. Trump and Bibi are big allies and use the same Shin Bet intelligence operatives. Trump appoints rabid Israel firsters and neo cons, and you hump Trump firsters think he is the second coming of Buford Pusser, draining the swamp. You are deluded.
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Did you like Barry's buddy's trying to turn America into part of the caliphate better? I'm not fan of the Israelis, or Bibi, but they sure beat the hell out of Oblabla's marriage to the islamic state.
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Trumps brother went to a juice fraternity, do we need to say more? Apparently the lemmings just arent gonna get it- ever.
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Fred Trump admitted his paternal family were cryptos.Trump was joined at the hip with Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn collaborated and operated in Mossad extortion and blackmail. Trump’s favorite little girl married Jared Kushner and converted to a Sneerson Lubatcher adherent. Trump and Bibi are big allies and use the same Shin Bet intelligence operatives. Trump appoints rabid Israel firsters and neo cons, and you hump Trump firsters think he is the second coming of Buford Pusser, draining the swamp. You are deluded.
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Did you like Barry's buddy's trying to turn America into part of the caliphate better? I'm not fan of the Israelis, or Bibi, but they sure beat the hell out of Oblabla's marriage to the islamic state.
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ISIS is still being supplied with arms and assistance. Trump has bombed and strafed Syrian troops fighting ISIS. Trump has his head up Saudi royals’ asses. He has provided arms for proxies of the same folks Obama did. Let us focus on Trump, and his rabid efforts to fight Bibi’s battles.
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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
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I’m not saying he doesn’t have major issues, but there are worse things than someone purging the Deep State from the NSC. Obama filled every spot with Muslim Brotherhood, Islamists, Communists, CHICOM agents, etc. I’d rather disagree with someone who is at least loyal to the same nation as me.

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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
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I’m not saying he doesn’t have major issues, but there are worse things than someone purging the Deep State from the NSC. Obama filled every spot with Muslim Brotherhood, Islamists, Communists, CHICOM agents, etc. I’d rather disagree with someone who is at least loyal to the same nation as me.

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Neither Trump nor Bolton are loyal to the USA.
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He should of appointed Michael.

That would of been the 4D time traveler move.

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John Bolton is an insane moron. He genuinely believes every bit of propaganda from the CIA. He somehow thinks that Saddam was our enemy and that Iraq is much better off because of the war. The man is a certifiable lunatic.

Hopefully, he wont have much influence with Trump. I think Trump is mostly appointing people based on how much he trusts them not to stab him in the back, more so than any advice they might offer. Bolton is just filling an empty seat.
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I’m not saying he doesn’t have major issues, but there are worse things than someone purging the Deep State from the NSC. Obama filled every spot with Muslim Brotherhood, Islamists, Communists, CHICOM agents, etc. I’d rather disagree with someone who is at least loyal to the same nation as me.

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What nation is that, Israel? Bolton wants to fight Israel’s battles, not this country’s. Bolton dodged the draft, and claimed he knew Vietnam was a lost cause by the time he could have served. What are you Trumptards, warmongering bunker warriors?
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Bolton didn't want to die in Vietnam for a lost cause, but he is foaming at the mouth to send your sons and daughters into every lost cause in the Middle East and Asia.
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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
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Trump's Appointment of John Bolton A Betrayal of Trump's Base

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I now consider trump an enemy.
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Bolton didn't want to die in Vietnam for a lost cause, but he is foaming at the mouth to send your sons and daughters into every lost cause in the Middle East and Asia.
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Well stated, to the point. Seventeen fricking years of war, nothing to show but more debt and a divided nation. This orange liar actually verbalized billing our allies, including S Korea, for our protection. Do you Hump Trump First mensa warriors remember that? Now the fat assed con artist says he signed the Omnibus so he could lift the sequester and jack up our protection. You Trump fanboys want to discount his lies and cons?
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On May29,2017 John Bolton was in Jerusalem and received the "Guardian of Zion " award. In his acceptance address he called the U.S. A. "The New Jerusalem".
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Bolton didn't want to die in Vietnam for a lost cause, but he is foaming at the mouth to send your sons and daughters into every lost cause in the Middle East and Asia.
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Well stated, to the point. Seventeen fricking years of war, nothing to show but more debt and a divided nation. This orange liar actually verbalized billing our allies, including S Korea, for our protection. Do you Hump Trump First mensa warriors remember that? Now the fat assed con artist says he signed the Omnibus so he could lift the sequester and jack up our protection. You Trump fanboys want to discount his lies and cons?
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Ahhh but the spice flows like an eternal spring from Afghanistan. Remember:"the spice must flow".
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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


Nope. Bolton is cleaning out Obama holdovers & leakers. He’s anti UN.

The US govt has became pussified. A joke. No walls. No National Security due to leaks & selling secrets.

I’m not ‘crazy’ about him but he’s a good choice for present situation. They’re aware he’s a war hawk & have an eye on him. He’s just an Advisor & won’t start ww3. We’ve got bigger issues right now-like domestic liberal terrorism for example.
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BOOM! Right there. Trump doesnt want war - and Bolton knows that. He's using Boltons big swinging nuts to flush out the commies. I'd imagine Bolton is loyal and knows that DJT isnt a neoCON. Bolton will go in and clean house at State/7th Floor deep-staters.
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On May29,2017 John Bolton was in Jerusalem and received the "Guardian of Zion " award. In his acceptance address he called the U.S. A. "The New Jerusalem".
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You Trumptards okay with that? Surely you think a country, the hub of pornos and gay culture, the nexus of organ harvesting, would be worth dying for? Some of you Trumptards think to question Israel is to question The Gospel. Well, your savior in this instance is Donald John Trump. How is that working out? He might be worried about Israel but the mofo is okay with funding Planned Parenthood and organ harvesting. It should not be shocking that a man like Bolton could bond with Trump.
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no way in hell would ZOG ever allow MAGA. they mean to break it down and sell it off, not make it great.
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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


Nope. Bolton is cleaning out Obama holdovers & leakers. He’s anti UN.

The US govt has became pussified. A joke. No walls. No National Security due to leaks & selling secrets.

I’m not ‘crazy’ about him but he’s a good choice for present situation. They’re aware he’s a war hawk & have an eye on him. He’s just an Advisor & won’t start ww3. We’ve got bigger issues right now-like domestic liberal terrorism for example.
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I'm glad he's anti-UN.
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The only thing is... he is anti-UN but not for the same reason you and I are.
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Well if we’re going to go to war , might as well have somebody good at it.
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Because the Bush administration was so "good" at it?
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That's what makes Trump decision even more bizarre. OK so Bolton's a warmonger but he's not even that good at warmongering. Bolton was at the heart of the greatest foreign poicy disasters of the past two decades or more.

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Well if we’re going to go to war , might as well have somebody good at it.
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Because the Bush administration was so "good" at it?
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That's what makes Trump decision even more bizarre. OK so Bolton's a warmonger but he's not even that good at warmongering. Bolton was at the heart of the greatest foreign poicy disasters of the past two decades or more.

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I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of Trump. But now that he's appointed John Bolton as his national security advisor, I'm wondering what is going on.

Trump made it clear while campaigning that he opposed the 2003 Iraq invasion and that he wanted to stop the empire building of the USA. No more continuous invading of other countries in the name of an ill defined War on Terror.

John Bolton not only supported and still supports the 2003 Iraq invasion, but he is known to be one of the most ardent pro-war, pro-invasion, pro-empire building people in DC.

Why has Trump done an about face by appointing such a war monger when he campaigned on ending all these mindless wars????

I agree the bill he signed recently is pretty bad, but it seems everyone is so focused on that, they've missed this thing about the Bolton appointment. If John Bolton is able to shape foreign policy and persuade Trump on these issues, that seems to be a far more dangerous development.

Maybe I missed this topic being discussed here before, but I wanted to throw this out here.

Does anyone think Trump's appointment of Bolton is not only a betrayal of what Trump campaigned on but also a warning that WW3 got that much closer?
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


Nope. Bolton is cleaning out Obama holdovers & leakers. He’s anti UN.

The US govt has became pussified. A joke. No walls. No National Security due to leaks & selling secrets.

I’m not ‘crazy’ about him but he’s a good choice for present situation. They’re aware he’s a war hawk & have an eye on him. He’s just an Advisor & won’t start ww3. We’ve got bigger issues right now-like domestic liberal terrorism for example.
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I'm glad he's anti-UN.
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The only thing is... he is anti-UN but not for the same reason you and I are.
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Right. Good point.
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Nope. Bolton is cleaning out Obama holdovers & leakers. He’s anti UN.

The US govt has became pussified. A joke. No walls. No National Security due to leaks & selling secrets.

I’m not ‘crazy’ about him but he’s a good choice for present situation. They’re aware he’s a war hawk & have an eye on him. He’s just an Advisor & won’t start ww3. We’ve got bigger issues right now-like domestic liberal terrorism for example.
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I'm glad he's anti-UN.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


The only thing is... he is anti-UN but not for the same reason you and I are.
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Right. Good point.
 Quoting: LoverofYahshua


He is anti UN only when it serves his master’s needs. Israel is called out in the UN. Members are not rewarded for doing Israel’s bidding. Bolton is. Wake up.
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"Bolton’s high-profile advocacy of war with Iran is well known. What is not at all well known is that, when he was under secretary of state for arms control and international security, he executed a complex and devious strategy aimed at creating the justification for a U.S. attack on Iran. Bolton sought to convict the Islamic Republic in the court of international public opinion of having a covert nuclear weapons program using a combination of diplomatic pressure, crude propaganda, and fabricated evidence.

Despite the fact that Bolton was technically under the supervision of Secretary of State Colin Powell, his actual boss in devising and carrying out that strategy was Vice President Dick Cheney."

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"Bolton’s high-profile advocacy of war with Iran is well known. What is not at all well known is that, when he was under secretary of state for arms control and international security, he executed a complex and devious strategy aimed at creating the justification for a U.S. attack on Iran. Bolton sought to convict the Islamic Republic in the court of international public opinion of having a covert nuclear weapons program using a combination of diplomatic pressure, crude propaganda, and fabricated evidence.

Despite the fact that Bolton was technically under the supervision of Secretary of State Colin Powell, his actual boss in devising and carrying out that strategy was Vice President Dick Cheney."

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Ah. The plot thickens.





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