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The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy said at the start they are banned from broadcasting live images from orbit. Why is that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76367508 Worried they might spot a military satellite with secret nukes on it? I bet you the restriction came from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. There must be something that the second stage camera might see looking back at earth on this particular launch that the government doesn't want the public to see... How odd... |
The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gee, for what he is paying you’d think he could get somebody to wash it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35672472 They used to clean them off, but it's unnecessary. SpaceX is all about reducing the cost of getting to orbit with these reusable boosters. They're already cheaper than any other orbital launch provider. Last Edited by Astromut on 03/30/2018 10:08 AM |
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eV3y User ID: 75561797 United States 03/30/2018 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy said at the start they are banned from broadcasting live images from orbit. Why is that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76367508 Worried they might spot a military satellite with secret nukes on it? I bet you the restriction came from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. There must be something that the second stage camera might see looking back at earth on this particular launch that the government doesn't want the public to see... How odd... Could this have anything to do with the possible trajectory of the falling Chinese satellite? I know space is vast, but i'd be concerned launching anything up while an "untraceable" satellite is coming down within the next 48 hours. for awesome video feed! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I can't force people to accept the truth, but I can expose them to it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35672472 United States 03/30/2018 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gee, for what he is paying you’d think he could get somebody to wash it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35672472 They used to clean them off, but it's unnecessary. SpaceX is all about reducing the cost of getting to orbit with these reusable boosters. They're already cheaper than any other orbital launch provider. Well, we aren’t picking up any arcturian poontang in a dirty chariot... Low cost is not my biggest concern when it comes to space travel. Soot can mask problems. This is destined to be a spectacular failure at some point, with the purpose of making us stop reaching. Cool show for now, but this only ends one way. |
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Crunch62 User ID: 14926102 United States 03/30/2018 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy said at the start they are banned from broadcasting live images from orbit. Why is that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76367508 Worried they might spot a military satellite with secret nukes on it? I bet you the restriction came from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. There must be something that the second stage camera might see looking back at earth on this particular launch that the government doesn't want the public to see... How odd... Yeah, heard him say "restrictions imposed by NOAA". What are they hiding? I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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snark Forum Administrator 03/30/2018 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does NOAA make them stop their live vid coverage? T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy said at the start they are banned from broadcasting live images from orbit. Why is that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76367508 Worried they might spot a military satellite with secret nukes on it? I bet you the restriction came from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. There must be something that the second stage camera might see looking back at earth on this particular launch that the government doesn't want the public to see... How odd... Could this have anything to do with the possible trajectory of the falling Chinese satellite? I know space is vast, but i'd be concerned launching anything up while an "untraceable" satellite is coming down within the next 48 hours. for awesome video feed! No, I seriously doubt it. The number of possible reasons is also vast, but that is one of the least likely I could think of. NOAA is responsible for restricting commercial companies from taking pictures of anything classified from space. That includes anything that the government considers important for national security. It could be a secret base, or some other US government mission that the second stage might accidentally spot. Very curious, but trying to tie it to other current events is unlikely to yield the correct answer. |
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Jumpin Jack User ID: 74922239 United States 03/30/2018 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First stage did its job, now it will practice a landing into the ocean, but the recovery ship is not there. Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut Is this an oop's ??? Last Edited by Jumpin Jack on 03/30/2018 10:30 AM Jumpin Jack |
The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many may not know this, but NOAA is tasked with restricting commercial operators from taking images from space of things that the government considers to be matters of national security. You might think it would come from the Air Force or the DoD, but no, it comes from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. "Who is Required to Apply for a License? It is unlawful for any person who is subject to the jurisdiction or control of the United States, directly or through any subsidiary or affiliate to operate a private remote sensing space system without possession of a valid license issued under the Act and the regulations." [link to www.nesdis.noaa.gov (secure)] For some reason, they apparently wouldn't give SpaceX a license for their second stage rocket for this mission, or the license they gave cut off near or past the second stage cutoff. |
The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many may not know this, but NOAA is tasked with restricting commercial operators from taking images from space of things that the government considers to be matters of national security. You might think it would come from the Air Force or the DoD, but no, it comes from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. "Who is Required to Apply for a License? It is unlawful for any person who is subject to the jurisdiction or control of the United States, directly or through any subsidiary or affiliate to operate a private remote sensing space system without possession of a valid license issued under the Act and the regulations." [link to www.nesdis.noaa.gov (secure)] For some reason, they apparently wouldn't give SpaceX a license for their second stage rocket for this mission, or the license they gave cut off near or past the second stage cutoff. NOAA's PR arm is apparently just as confused as the rest of us, at least that's what they're publicly saying. Eric Berger has been very reliable for info in the past. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Personally I still think it came down from NOAA's CRSRA office and whatever it is, it's classified to the point that their PR office isn't privy to it. |
Jumpin Jack User ID: 74922239 United States 03/30/2018 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many may not know this, but NOAA is tasked with restricting commercial operators from taking images from space of things that the government considers to be matters of national security. You might think it would come from the Air Force or the DoD, but no, it comes from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. "Who is Required to Apply for a License? It is unlawful for any person who is subject to the jurisdiction or control of the United States, directly or through any subsidiary or affiliate to operate a private remote sensing space system without possession of a valid license issued under the Act and the regulations." [link to www.nesdis.noaa.gov (secure)] For some reason, they apparently wouldn't give SpaceX a license for their second stage rocket for this mission, or the license they gave cut off near or past the second stage cutoff. Bet ET's don't care about NOAA's aothority Jumpin Jack |
The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many may not know this, but NOAA is tasked with restricting commercial operators from taking images from space of things that the government considers to be matters of national security. You might think it would come from the Air Force or the DoD, but no, it comes from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. "Who is Required to Apply for a License? It is unlawful for any person who is subject to the jurisdiction or control of the United States, directly or through any subsidiary or affiliate to operate a private remote sensing space system without possession of a valid license issued under the Act and the regulations." [link to www.nesdis.noaa.gov (secure)] For some reason, they apparently wouldn't give SpaceX a license for their second stage rocket for this mission, or the license they gave cut off near or past the second stage cutoff. NOAA's PR arm is apparently just as confused as the rest of us, at least that's what they're publicly saying. Eric Berger has been very reliable for info in the past. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Personally I still think it came down from NOAA's CRSRA office and whatever it is, it's classified to the point that their PR office isn't privy to it. Interestinger and Interestinger... [link to www.nesdis.noaa.gov (secure)] This is the ONLY SpaceX CRSRA license I can find anywhere. It concerns some small satellites they put into orbit as prototypes for their planned space-based internet network. I wonder if SpaceX just never asked for a license for their second stage cameras before and NOAA is only now coming down on them for not having a license for showing video late in the launch when the vehicle is at or above orbital velocity. The timing of the cutoff seems to me to suggest they were mandated to shut it off at the moment the perigee distance was such that the vehicle was technically already in orbit. A few seconds later they cut off the second stage at the intended orbit for the satellites' parking orbit. If this happens again during the next SpaceX launch then I think my theory will be confirmed. Last Edited by Astromut on 03/30/2018 10:46 AM |
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The Deplorable Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/30/2018 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BAHAHAHA! The fairing recovery vessel, Mr. Steven, has a "destination" according to this marine tracking site set to "YOUR MOMSHOUSE" [link to www.marinetraffic.com (secure)] |
WartHog76 User ID: 76413332 United States 03/30/2018 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many may not know this, but NOAA is tasked with restricting commercial operators from taking images from space of things that the government considers to be matters of national security. You might think it would come from the Air Force or the DoD, but no, it comes from the NOAA Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs Office. "Who is Required to Apply for a License? It is unlawful for any person who is subject to the jurisdiction or control of the United States, directly or through any subsidiary or affiliate to operate a private remote sensing space system without possession of a valid license issued under the Act and the regulations." [link to www.nesdis.noaa.gov (secure)] For some reason, they apparently wouldn't give SpaceX a license for their second stage rocket for this mission, or the license they gave cut off near or past the second stage cutoff. NOAA's PR arm is apparently just as confused as the rest of us, at least that's what they're publicly saying. Eric Berger has been very reliable for info in the past. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Personally I still think it came down from NOAA's CRSRA office and whatever it is, it's classified to the point that their PR office isn't privy to it. Yeah, something is fishy. |
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