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78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder

 
Heebie Jeebies

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04/05/2018 05:13 AM
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The officially approved steps for dealing with an intruder are:

-Run/hide
-Call the cops
-Wait for the cops
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In our case over here, we have to wait up to 5 days now because of cuts...anything from Burglary to theft. You gotta do what you gotta do...

This 78 year old was cornered & trapped in the kitchen not knowing what the other burglar was doing upstairs where his wife was.. I'm sorry, I would of done the same thing to protect my loved ones.
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04/05/2018 05:16 AM
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
The officially approved steps for dealing with an intruder are:

-Run/hide
-Call the cops
-Wait for the cops
 Quoting: Tainted Meat


In our case over here, we have to wait up to 5 days now because of cuts...anything from Burglary to theft. You gotta do what you gotta do...

This 78 year old was cornered & trapped in the kitchen not knowing what the other burglar was doing upstairs where his wife was.. I'm sorry, I would of done the same thing to protect my loved ones.
 Quoting: Heebie Jeebies


You're sorry?

Come on man, nothing to be sorry about.
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
The officially approved steps for dealing with an intruder are:

-Run/hide
-Call the cops
-Wait for the cops
 Quoting: Tainted Meat


In our case over here, we have to wait up to 5 days now because of cuts...anything from Burglary to theft. You gotta do what you gotta do...

This 78 year old was cornered & trapped in the kitchen not knowing what the other burglar was doing upstairs where his wife was.. I'm sorry, I would of done the same thing to protect my loved ones.
 Quoting: Heebie Jeebies


You're sorry?

Come on man, nothing to be sorry about.
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04/05/2018 05:39 AM
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
Overzealous tabloid reporting.

Taking the "Devil's advocate" stance here.

Someone was killed, You have to speak to someone about what happened, therefore you arrest all the people involved. He'd been "arrested on suspicion of murder". He'd been charged with fuck all.

Had the burgler lived, he'd have been arrested and questioned too


Now that the police have spoken to the homeowner, they have released him on bail pending further enquiries.

No doubt when they've weighed up the info (especially the fact that it was a single stab wound, so the homeowner clearly didn't go all out for a kill), they'll come to the conclusion that sufficient force was used in self defence and I don't see any charges for the homeowner.




Personally, I'm saddened that one of the burglers got away. Should have got both of the fuckers. In my eyes the homeowner is a hero. 78 years old and taking on two young thugs. Nice one fella. Let me buy you a pint.
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04/05/2018 06:43 AM
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Here in Canada, people have killed others in self-defence and been acquitted.

The Criminal Code says you can use force to defend yourself, provided that the force is proportionate to the threat. That is, if the situation is such that any reasonable person would be in fear of being seriously injured or killed, lethal force can be applied.

Defence of property situations that don't justify lethal force unless the one who is committing the offence of theft threatens or moves to injure or kill the homeowner.

The Queen does NOT 'own Canada'. She is a figurehead and has no real power in Canada. At most, she rubber-stamps legislation created by Parliament, and is the official, but not actual head of state in Canada.
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04/05/2018 07:04 AM
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
think about it.

it should be logical.

how do *I* know the dead person was a burgular ?
we only have the other persons` word for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


I have been burgled twice.. From the get-go, you know why somebody who should'nt be there is in your living room.

I hear some twat on BBC R5 calling in to say it is just silly for anyone to get involved, or strike out in these situations.

"Just let them take your stuff, it's only material goods"
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04/05/2018 07:20 AM
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What a joke this country is, how the hell can you get charged with murder for stabbing someone that breaks into your house.
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That means it's not homeowners government . It's the burglars.
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04/05/2018 07:43 AM
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
When normal behavior is criminalized

you know

the authoritarian took control of govt
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04/05/2018 07:45 AM

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There was a case a few years ago.
A family caught some burglers and beat them with a bat.

They were prosecuted because they hit the burglers from behind as they were running away. Therefor they didn't need to defend themselves.

If they had hit the burgler in the face or chest they wouldn't have being charged.
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think about it.

it should be logical.

how do *I* know the dead person was a burgular ?
we only have the other persons` word for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


Trespassing is a crime

BANG!!!

Doesn't matter WHY the guy was there

A drunk guy at a party next door wandered into a neighbors house in NY - BANG - shot dead - castle doctrine applied - homeowner justified

He wasn't where he belonged

Once someone breaches your door or window - without permission - BANG!
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no intruder should know if they are coming out alive.

the way it should be.

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The police spokesman said: "The 78-year-old resident had found two males inside his address.

"One suspect went upstairs while the homeowner was forced into the kitchen by the second suspect, armed with a screwdriver.

"A struggle had ensued in the kitchen during which one of the males found inside the property sustained a stab wound to the upper body."


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Sounds like he is being charged with using excessive force - police and the legal system here are just complete and utter cunts.
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Broken Britain!
How do you solve a problem?

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04/05/2018 08:47 AM
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This is a perversion of justice....

Our legal system has become totally inverted ....

They had better sort themselves out quickly ......

I expect most people are completely fed up with it..

First letting sex attack monsters out into the community ..

They are also letting murderers out ....

Now letting thieves run wild...This is only and isolated incident because the elderly man defended his home and family .

Good on him....

In the papers recently they were writing that lots more people have been burgled...

If gaols are full deport all the immigrants ..take away their citizenship.

I wonder how many are those men who think they are boys the Home Secretary let in ?

If they really are bad how about bringing back execution..?

If they insist on bringing in these uncivilised people they will have to go back to uncivilised means of control...

I am not talking about anyone from abroad who behaves decently ....

If it cannot be managed then the head needs to go ...

That is generally the source of the problem..

You cannot learn leadership at university....theory may be, but this mess requires action ...

You know actually doing something to stop it ....

not just saying something and thinking it will go away ...

Though a good leader can do that...say something and change happens ...

We sadly have none like that ....

I am disgusted that this elderly man has been charged ...
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04/05/2018 08:59 AM
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
think about it.

it should be logical.

how do *I* know the dead person was a burgular ?
we only have the other persons` word for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


I have been burgled twice.. From the get-go, you know why somebody who should'nt be there is in your living room.

I hear some twat on BBC R5 calling in to say it is just silly for anyone to get involved, or strike out in these situations.

"Just let them take your stuff, it's only material goods"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529


There lies the problem.....So the libtards think when there is an armed criminal in the house, they should be trusted not to kill you?....Criminals in the UK have a contract with the victims guaranteeing their safety?

What happens when the burglar decides its better to kill you since you can ID them? rape and kill your family? ....are these libtards willing to gamble the lives of their family on this unwritten contract?
s. d. butler

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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
think about it.

it should be logical.

how do *I* know the dead person was a burgular ?
we only have the other persons` word for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168


I have been burgled twice.. From the get-go, you know why somebody who should'nt be there is in your living room.

I hear some twat on BBC R5 calling in to say it is just silly for anyone to get involved, or strike out in these situations.

"Just let them take your stuff, it's only material goods"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529


There lies the problem.....So the libtards think when there is an armed criminal in the house, they should be trusted not to kill you?....Criminals in the UK have a contract with the victims guaranteeing their safety?

What happens when the burglar decides its better to kill you since you can ID them? rape and kill your family? ....are these libtards willing to gamble the lives of their family on this unwritten contract?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73364948


Even herbivores sometimes fight back but I guess not these sorry excuses for human beings. What kind of system, what kind of indoctrination would produce this kind of mewling sheep anyway?

Better yet, what kind of mind would even think that it's okay to submit to being robbed, let alone raped and/or murdered or maimed?

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 04/05/2018 06:50 PM
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Released without any charges

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Last Edited by lightchild_uk on 04/07/2018 04:26 PM
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Released without any charges

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 Quoting: lightchild_uk


He should get a metal.
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04/07/2018 09:48 PM
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That's life under a queen and without a First and Second Amendment.
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Fuck the Queen. These fucks have been the enemies of humanity for at least 300 years.

London needs to be burned to the ground.
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04/07/2018 09:51 PM
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I know we Americans are nut, but you Brits are effin crazzzzy!
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Re: 78 year old man stabs a burgler in his house and HE gets charged with murder
think about it.

it should be logical.

how do *I* know the dead person was a burgular ?
we only have the other persons` word for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168

Think about it; Logically.

Uninvited? Dead Intruder.
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04/07/2018 10:14 PM
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Moral of this story. If you live in England and kill an intruder, have a barrel of hydrochloric acid to put the body in or some other means of disposing of a body.
 Quoting: BrokenTech


Hydrofloric Acid.
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 Quoting: lightchild_uk


He should get a metal.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Maybe even a medal too.
s. d. butler

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04/07/2018 11:06 PM
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Released without any charges

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 Quoting: lightchild_uk


He should get a metal.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Maybe even a medal too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76311934


thanks for the correction. It was a stupid mistake.





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