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Anyone here have any experience using prebiotics to help treat diverticulitis?

 
Larry D. Croc

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Anyone here have any experience using prebiotics to help treat diverticulitis?
My wife has flare-ups of diverticulitis that cause intense pain, fever, etc.

She's been looking at prebiotics which are supposed to aid in maintaining the gut, reducing the tendency toward inflammation, etc.

Anyone had any success using these? Or any other supplements, treatment, etc. to help reduce the severity of these flares? Thanks in advance, I appreciate your sharing experiences and idea that have worked for you.
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Citrucel has greatly helped someone I know.

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Citrucel (methycellulose) is a fiber laxative

would not recommend this. Have divert for 30 yrs & found NOTHING for relief. Try to be proactive in diet aspect though.
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Paragoric was heavenly for stomach issues. Too bad its outlawed in US because of opium base. Mexico still has it i think. This is a liquid and not at all in the same catagory as the (fake)opiates thru pharma.

Narcotic meds are about the only relief used for intestinal/stomach issues.
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Paragoric was heavenly for stomach issues. Too bad its outlawed in US because of opium base. Mexico still has it i think. This is a liquid and not at all in the same catagory as the (fake)opiates thru pharma.

Narcotic meds are about the only relief used for intestinal/stomach issues.
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Yeah, the doctors haven't been much help unfortunately. Ah well, the hunt continues.
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OK not sure if this will help or not, but it might. I was having horrible stomach problems when I was 44, 3 years ago. Could not figure it out, had biopsies and colonoscopy, blood tests, feces tests when I was acute. No one had a clue, colon totally healthy etc.

Turns out, I am allergic to Rye, and Rye alone! No other grain, no lactose intolerance, nothing to do with gluten, just Rye. I haven't eaten anything Rye since the last episode and have had not one problem. Point of my post is maybe, just maybe it's some bizarre allergy like mine that not even Doctors and Specialists can pinpoint. They couldn't for me, I figured it out by racking my brains and using trial and error. Hope your wife gets better.
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OK not sure if this will help or not, but it might. I was having horrible stomach problems when I was 44, 3 years ago. Could not figure it out, had biopsies and colonoscopy, blood tests, feces tests when I was acute. No one had a clue, colon totally healthy etc.

Turns out, I am allergic to Rye, and Rye alone! No other grain, no lactose intolerance, nothing to do with gluten, just Rye. I haven't eaten anything Rye since the last episode and have had not one problem. Point of my post is maybe, just maybe it's some bizarre allergy like mine that not even Doctors and Specialists can pinpoint. They couldn't for me, I figured it out by racking my brains and using trial and error. Hope your wife gets better.
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Thank you, Flock, we'll try some trial and error with her diet and see if that has any impact.
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Probiotics are good yes. Phillips colon probiotics is the best I have found. Another thing she should not eat things such as nuts, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds... anything that might get in a pocket of her colon. They get in there and creat a lot of pain and inflammation. I wish her well...its very painful.
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My son takes probiotics every day and stool softener with it.
He has a terrible time with his problem, he sheds bowl lining and bleeds like crazy, he will not be able to go the bathroom and his right lower quadrant and down towards the groin is like a pain scale of 8. His gallbladder normally is swollen when he gets that bad.
He does not really have diverticulitis my husband does and he has problem with polyps as well, he had to have surgery to remove them once.

Keeping him on 1 a day of each stool softener and probiotic helps to keep that at bay. It will not help when he gets out of hand, I was gone helping a family member that sick and staying with them when he got in bad the shape the last time.
He is bad about not taking them and you have to keep reminding him.
He will even piss bile and get real sick, doing that with no insurance when it happened last time.

I have thought about switching to the prebiotics with him, I just did not want to mess with what we got going since it works.
There are a lot of things he cannot eat or drink or it will mess him up bad, his dad will get it for him if I am not there to stop him and it will mess him up.
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Probiotics are good yes. Phillips colon probiotics is the best I have found. Another thing she should not eat things such as nuts, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds... anything that might get in a pocket of her colon. They get in there and creat a lot of pain and inflammation. I wish her well...its very painful.
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She doesn't eat any nuts, seeds, etc. for safety's sake.

She's looking for info on "prebiotics', not probiotics.
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Paragoric was heavenly for stomach issues. Too bad its outlawed in US because of opium base. Mexico still has it i think. This is a liquid and not at all in the same catagory as the (fake)opiates thru pharma.

Narcotic meds are about the only relief used for intestinal/stomach issues.
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Paregoric is the only thing that helped me as a child.

horrific stomachaches.

now gluten free, after losing my appendix awhile back. Also had C-diff before losing the gluten.


I like kefir a lot - love the taste - but boy it gave me intense stomach pain recently.

not sure why.

did not mean to bold all, sorry it looks like shouting!

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Re: Anyone here have any experience using prebiotics to help treat diverticulitis?
OK not sure if this will help or not, but it might. I was having horrible stomach problems when I was 44, 3 years ago. Could not figure it out, had biopsies and colonoscopy, blood tests, feces tests when I was acute. No one had a clue, colon totally healthy etc.

Turns out, I am allergic to Rye, and Rye alone! No other grain, no lactose intolerance, nothing to do with gluten, just Rye. I haven't eaten anything Rye since the last episode and have had not one problem. Point of my post is maybe, just maybe it's some bizarre allergy like mine that not even Doctors and Specialists can pinpoint. They couldn't for me, I figured it out by racking my brains and using trial and error. Hope your wife gets better.
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Thank you, Flock, we'll try some trial and error with her diet and see if that has any impact.
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wheat, corn, soy, and dairy are the usual culprits.

But is could be anything, or lots of things.

www.foodallergytest.com
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Re: Anyone here have any experience using prebiotics to help treat diverticulitis?
My wife has flare-ups of diverticulitis that cause intense pain, fever, etc.

She's been looking at prebiotics which are supposed to aid in maintaining the gut, reducing the tendency toward inflammation, etc.

Anyone had any success using these? Or any other supplements, treatment, etc. to help reduce the severity of these flares? Thanks in advance, I appreciate your sharing experiences and idea that have worked for you.
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Had to have my part of my bowel removed last summer. I was lucky enough to be reconnected.

Eat carefully. I found that although not the cause of flare ups, paprika was the main catalyst of them. Its hidden as a food colouring as well as used in flavouring. Read labels its in mayonnaise, custard, yogurt etc. Try cutting this spice out diet. It reduced my flare ups.

Before surgery I was on a metronidazole and another antibiotic, for months. All they did was stop me becoming acute(what your wife is like now) . Only way to cure was removal of most of the diseased tissue.

I tried everything prior to surgery to stop bleeding and pain. The only thing I can say with any certainty was silver water at 5ppm stopped bleeding. Started low on 5ml morning and night, upto a shot glass after three weeks.

I was in denial, about the seriousness of the situation. My father and grandmother blead out and died through their intestines. You can't keep having flare ups, eventually something will give.

The pain of surgery is minute compared to the pain of the condition.

Diet is bland forever. I find meat will back me up. I no longer eat processed savory food, cook from scratch.

To the lady who's son is sore in the lower right quadrant, sorry, that's not a reconnectable area, if it was a grumbling appendix, happy days. Wind brilliant. But if its diverticulitis, there, it needs fully addressed ASAP.
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My wife has flare-ups of diverticulitis that cause intense pain, fever, etc.

She's been looking at prebiotics which are supposed to aid in maintaining the gut, reducing the tendency toward inflammation, etc.

Anyone had any success using these? Or any other supplements, treatment, etc. to help reduce the severity of these flares? Thanks in advance, I appreciate your sharing experiences and idea that have worked for you.
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Had to have my part of my bowel removed last summer. I was lucky enough to be reconnected.

Eat carefully. I found that although not the cause of flare ups, paprika was the main catalyst of them. Its hidden as a food colouring as well as used in flavouring. Read labels its in mayonnaise, custard, yogurt etc. Try cutting this spice out diet. It reduced my flare ups.

Before surgery I was on a metronidazole and another antibiotic, for months. All they did was stop me becoming acute(what your wife is like now) . Only way to cure was removal of most of the diseased tissue.

I tried everything prior to surgery to stop bleeding and pain. The only thing I can say with any certainty was silver water at 5ppm stopped bleeding. Started low on 5ml morning and night, upto a shot glass after three weeks.

I was in denial, about the seriousness of the situation. My father and grandmother blead out and died through their intestines. You can't keep having flare ups, eventually something will give.

The pain of surgery is minute compared to the pain of the condition.

Diet is bland forever. I find meat will back me up. I no longer eat processed savory food, cook from scratch.

To the lady who's son is sore in the lower right quadrant, sorry, that's not a reconnectable area, if it was a grumbling appendix, happy days. Wind brilliant. But if its diverticulitis, there, it needs fully addressed ASAP.
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Thanks for the tip on paprika; she's Hungarian by heritage and loves it. That's something we can work on.
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Thanks for the tip on paprika; she's Hungarian by heritage and loves it. That's something we can work on.


Paprika was a hidden ingredients that I ate, wasn't listed on packaging and was used as a coloring. It was in breadcrumbs on processed veggie burger. That's what caused the flare up that led to surgery.


If I ate paprika, it caused a shutdown, dead stop in my guts, complete back up. It was always for me 60 hours (2½ days) from paprika consumption, no movement at all, whatever is in stays in. bloating.

After about 60 hours everything that was already there plus everything that you've added comes out. This took days.

Watched all of breaking bad on the loo. Every season, over just four days! But you need to take mind off it.

During a flare up, I was 14hrs on loo in a 24 hr period, occasionally running past family to take tablets with food.

Probiotics like vsl#3 made crap small and hard like you've only ate spinnich and iron. Which isn't what you want. You need fibre, I find for me, keeping loose naturally is best course. Pineapple juice, no more than three slices bread a day, fruit and veg (no skin, no seeds, no nuts, no spices) and eggs, occasional meat / fish and touch wood Im OK.

Eating out is a fking nightmare, but call ahead and explain to the chef.


Change the angle that you sit on the loo at.

Stack up something like a box or footstool to get your feet up nearer level with the seat and things go easier.
Do not push ever. This makes condition worse. I know it's a difficult situation as all you Want to do is push, but it contracts the area your struggling with and can cause a more problems. Breathing slowly, in for a four count , hold four, out four with feet up, gets a crap out quicker than bursting a vessel.
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I've got a buddy with terrible gut and IBS. He does probiotics and recently has started activated charcoal.

He said that things have been much better since the activated charcoal.

It is a low risk proposition, cheap, and apparently pretty effective.
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I thought diverticulitis went away in the 80's??
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I thought diverticulitis went away in the 80's??
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I've a scar from my bollocks to above my bellybutton that disagrees with you mate lol.

Everyone has some diverticulitis by the time they are 80.
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Re: Anyone here have any experience using prebiotics to help treat diverticulitis?
My wife has flare-ups of diverticulitis that cause intense pain, fever, etc.

She's been looking at prebiotics which are supposed to aid in maintaining the gut, reducing the tendency toward inflammation, etc.

Anyone had any success using these? Or any other supplements, treatment, etc. to help reduce the severity of these flares? Thanks in advance, I appreciate your sharing experiences and idea that have worked for you.
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Pre and pro biotic help.
Look into arabinogalactins.
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I used to have it, now i don’t.

What i did.....

Level teaspoon of epson salt in 16 oz of water..... sip thru the day.

Eat alot of fermented foods, kraut, pickles,etc

No enemas
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WWW.earthclinic.com might be another place to get info.