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Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:

 
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none of these stocks have ever gone up, not in 2008 and not ever
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none of these stocks have ever gone up, not in 2008 and not ever
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They go up and down daily. But decay always. You have to have iron balls to daytrade these things
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none of these stocks have ever gone up, not in 2008 and not ever
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And you’re wrong

They go up and down daily. But decay always. You have to have iron balls to daytrade these things
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It would be full retard to day trade these

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none of these stocks have ever gone up, not in 2008 and not ever
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A few posts back you can view a link to FAZ’s chart,

See for yourself you bullshitter, you
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
To dispel the dipshit assholes that don’t want you to make any money when the stock market crashes here’s an example:

link for TVIX going back to 2014 where is was?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

Oh lookey there, $24,000/share Jan 2014
That’s as far back I can for the moment with that one.

If you want to lie in my thread, I’ll boot your ass.

goaway
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04/06/2018 07:07 AM
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Dow is going to 8000 and will recover massively in 2020 when Trump gets re-elected.

So if dow goes to 8000. And S&P does a similar drop. How much would the TVIX be from current level of 10 usd per share?
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To dispel the dipshit assholes that don’t want you to make any money when the stock market crashes here’s an example:

link for TVIX going back to 2014 where is was?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

Oh lookey there, $24,000/share Jan 2014
That’s as far back I can for the moment with that one.

If you want to lie in my thread, I’ll boot your ass.

goaway
 Quoting: Archeometre


tvix is SUPER dangerous to hold more than a day or two.
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
I’ve seen the question asked here before—How do I place a bet AGAINST the market? This is how: edit to add see video below for the rest of ETN list...


First, open up an E*TRADE (easiest IMO) brokerage account if you don’t already have one.


Buy ETNs


DRV
FAZ
TVIX
TZA

Are my favorites.

Buy a couple shares of each and just hang on.

After the 2008 crash those etn’s were worth anywhere from $5,000 -$118,000 a share.

They are currently around $11-13 each now.

popcorn











dance
 Quoting: Archeometre

Why woukd u use etrade, ameritrade or others and pay all their fees. Stash has free buys and sells and only costs a dollar a month and you can get etfs. Not shitting on your post put there are better/cheaper ways to trade like stash and robinhood..see sig..
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
To dispel the dipshit assholes that don’t want you to make any money when the stock market crashes here’s an example:

link for TVIX going back to 2014 where is was?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

Oh lookey there, $24,000/share Jan 2014
That’s as far back I can for the moment with that one.

If you want to lie in my thread, I’ll boot your ass.

goaway
 Quoting: Archeometre


You understand nothing. It was 24000 with how many reverse splits since then? Do you know what happens with a reverse split? This is not a stock, it’s an etf, dipshit....
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04/06/2018 08:26 AM
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Trump is definitely crashing this motherfucker.
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Trump is definitely crashing this motherfucker.
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Good, hope you leftists starve.


Good thread op, saved for later research.
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Faz has never gone up

[link to www.marketwatch.com (secure)]
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correct. click on the 10Y chart. Reverse split hockey stick graph of pump and dump.
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
To dispel the dipshit assholes that don’t want you to make any money when the stock market crashes here’s an example:

link for TVIX going back to 2014 where is was?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

Oh lookey there, $24,000/share Jan 2014
That’s as far back I can for the moment with that one.

If you want to lie in my thread, I’ll boot your ass.

goaway
 Quoting: Archeometre


You understand nothing. It was 24000 with how many reverse splits since then? Do you know what happens with a reverse split? This is not a stock, it’s an etf, dipshit....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76423254



Reverse splits since then? Who gives a shit?



Did I tell you how to bet against the stock market?
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Hey op, ever hear of decay? You shouldn’t be giving financial advice. These are etfs not stocks. They will never be 10,000/share even if the Dow goes to 5,000. Learn the metrics jackass. These are meant for sophisticated investors to hedge risk. No one holds these
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Yup

[link to www.historicalstockprice.com (secure)]
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04/06/2018 11:46 AM
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This etf's are very volatile indeed, they are designed to make Quick money in few hours in a crash.
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This etf's are very volatile indeed, they are designed to make Quick money in few hours in a crash.
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SITC-abso
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
I’ve seen the question asked here before—How do I place a bet AGAINST the market? This is how: edit to add see video below for the rest of ETN list...


First, open up an E*TRADE (easiest IMO) brokerage account if you don’t already have one.


Buy ETNs


DRV
FAZ
TVIX
TZA

Are my favorites.

Buy a couple shares of each and just hang on.

After the 2008 crash those etn’s were worth anywhere from $5,000 -$118,000 a share.

They are currently around $11-13 each now.

popcorn

Spxu









dance
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Those are horrible instruments that are only for day trading

Send me some $$$ and I tell you a better and just as easy way to short the market
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Those are horrible instruments that are only for day trading

Send me some $$$ and I tell you a better and just as easy way to short the market
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Those are horrible instruments? How?

10 bucks a share and you buy 2? And if the market crashes you sell it at 10k a share?

This is about as easy as it gets.

Plus it’s not an investment it is insurance.

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This is a great scene 3:44 min for fun

Edited to post correct video [/youtube] [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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My portfolios are nice and green today

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Disclaimer: this is a private forum and I’m expressing my opinion you retards coffee4


I’ve seen the question asked here before—How do I place a bet AGAINST the market? This is how: edit to add see video below for the rest of ETN list...


First, open up an E*TRADE (easiest IMO) brokerage account if you don’t already have one.


Buy ETNs


DRV
FAZ
TVIX
TZA

Are my favorites.

Buy a couple shares of each and just hang on.

After the 2008 crash those etn’s were worth anywhere from $5,000 -$118,000 a share.

They are currently around $11-13 each now.

popcorn











dance
 Quoting: Archeometre

Thanks OP..interesting..are these some sort of PUT instrument?
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Disclaimer: this is a private forum and I’m expressing my opinion you retards coffee4


I’ve seen the question asked here before—How do I place a bet AGAINST the market? This is how: edit to add see video below for the rest of ETN list...


First, open up an E*TRADE (easiest IMO) brokerage account if you don’t already have one.


Buy ETNs


DRV
FAZ
TVIX
TZA

Are my favorites.

Buy a couple shares of each and just hang on.

After the 2008 crash those etn’s were worth anywhere from $5,000 -$118,000 a share.

They are currently around $11-13 each now.

popcorn











dance
 Quoting: Archeometre

Thanks OP..interesting..are these some sort of PUT instrument?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61629722


A put option? You can utilize that strategy...
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
Let’s do a real world example

Taking today:

Dow 23,746.32 -758.90 -3.10%
S&P 500 2,587.10 -75.74 -2.84%
Nasdaq 6,879.34 -197.21 -2.79%
GlobalDow 2,992.20 -44.11 -1.45%

My VXX is up 8.45% and...in the green
TZA 6.9%
TVIX 15.3%
FAZ 7.1
DRV 2.6%
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Try this short FXI and ASHR. Make China pay for their decades long economic warfare against the US.

They have liquid options, so you can easily create bear spreads in the options markets as well.

Ultimately I believe China has the most to lose in any trade war.
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
none of these stocks have ever gone up, not in 2008 and not ever
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They go up and down daily. But decay always. You have to have iron balls to daytrade these things
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76423254


You make a good point. These are not buy and hold products, they are shit derivatives, most unsecured. Pretty much for swing or day traders only. But you can make some pretty impressive daily gains or losses with them.
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Re: Wanna Bet Against the Stock Market? Buy the Following:
Dow was down pretty hard today but op's picks were only up modestly. Any other picks of interest?
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Today @zerohedge Market Volatility Jumps To 7 Year High As Global Economic Data Slumps





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