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Trade war or war of words? Experts sound the alarm as China promises to 'fight to the end' | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76363707  Brazil04/06/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.foxnews.com] Quoting: The Deplorable Mechanic <50% Experts warned Thursday that the United States and China are barreling towards a potentially catastrophic trade war, citing each country's increasingly heated rhetoric and unique economic pressure points. Most Asian stock markets were holding early Friday, in an early sign that investors—for now--are brushing off concerns about the brewing brouhaha between the world's two biggest economies. President Trump on Thursday called for Robert Lighthizer, the U.S. trade representative, to consider $100 billion in additional tariffs against China. The two nations have already slapped each other with planned tariffs totaling $50 billion this week. But economic analysts said the situation -- which some U.S. news outlets have already branded a "trade war" -- could change rapidly, especially given the nations' ongoing war of words. So will China stop delivering its goods in exchange for green papers printed in the US with the face of George Washington? I think the green papers will not be worth anything after that ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76101204  Italy04/06/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.foxnews.com] Quoting: The Deplorable Mechanic <50% Experts warned Thursday that the United States and China are barreling towards a potentially catastrophic trade war, citing each country's increasingly heated rhetoric and unique economic pressure points. Most Asian stock markets were holding early Friday, in an early sign that investors—for now--are brushing off concerns about the brewing brouhaha between the world's two biggest economies. President Trump on Thursday called for Robert Lighthizer, the U.S. trade representative, to consider $100 billion in additional tariffs against China. The two nations have already slapped each other with planned tariffs totaling $50 billion this week. But economic analysts said the situation -- which some U.S. news outlets have already branded a "trade war" -- could change rapidly, especially given the nations' ongoing war of words. China is as Communist as they come. All the major corporations in China are owned by the state. Look up the thousands of "State Owned Enterprises" As a consequence, they are subsidized by the state. Millions of farmer were forced off their lands and sent to make widgets in factories, a hallmark of communism. the Chinese People love Capitalism and they don't care about those Commie Tired Old Farts in The Forbidden City. . Then why do these exist then? [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] HERE is ONLY A through F Government-owned companies of China ero Engine Corporation of China Agricultural Bank of China Air China Air China Cargo Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Corporation Aluminum Corporation of China Limited Angang Steel Company Ansteel Group APT Satellite Holdings Aviation Industry Corporation of China AVIC Aircraft B Baiyin Nonferrous Bank of China Bank of Communications Bank of Dalian Baoshan Iron and Steel Co., Ltd. Beida Jade Bird Universal Sci-Tech Beijing Capital International Airport (company) Beijing Enterprises Beijing Hualian Group Beijing North Star Beijing Urban Construction Investment Development Beijing Yanjing Brewery Bluestar Company C CAAC Airlines Capital Airport Holding CGCOC Group Changan Automobile Changchun Film Group Corporation CRRC Changchun Railway Vehicles Changjiang Securities ChemChina Chengzhi Co., Ltd Chery Chihong Zinc and Germanium China Agri-Industries Holdings China Aircraft Services Limited China Arts and Entertainment Group China Aviation Supplies Holding Company China Baowu Steel Group China BlueChemical China Bohai Bank China Cinda Asset Management China Coal Energy China Communications Construction China Communications Services China Construction America China Construction Bank China Construction Design International China COSCO China COSCO Shipping China Datang Corporation China Development Bank International Investment China Eastern Airlines China Electronics Technology Group China Energine China Energy Conservation and Environmental Protection Group China Energy Investment China Everbright Bank China Everbright Group China Everbright Limited China Foods Limited China Foreign Economy and Trade Trust China Fortune Trust China Galaxy Securities China Geo-Engineering Corporation China Guangfa Bank China Guodian Corporation China Hi-Tech Group Corporation China Huadian Corporation China Huaneng Group China Huarong Asset Management China International Capital Corporation China International Marine Containers China International Water & Electric Corporation China Investment Corporation China Investment Securities China Jianyin Investment China Jinmao China Life Insurance Company China Machinery Engineering Corporation China Merchants Bank China Merchants Energy Shipping China Merchants Group China Merchants Port China Metallurgical Group Corporation China Minmetals China Mobile China Mobile Tietong China Molybdenum China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation China National Aviation Corporation China National Aviation Fuel China National Aviation Holding China National Building Material China National Chemical Engineering China National Coal Group China National Electronics Import & Export Corporation China National Erzhong Group China National Heavy Duty Truck Group China National Machinery Import and Export Corporation China National Materials Group China National Offshore Oil Corporation China National Petroleum Corporation China National Pharmaceutical Group China National Philatelic Corporation China National Salt Industry Corporation China Netcom China Nonferrous Metal Mining Group China Oilfield Services China Orient Asset Management China Overseas Land and Investment China Petrochemical Corporation China Poly Group China Post China Power International Development China Precision Machinery Import-Export Corporation China Railway China Railway Construction Corporation Limited China Railway Engineering Corporation China Railway Guangzhou Group China Railway Materials China Railway No.2 Group China Resources China Resources Cement China Resources Enterprise China Resources Gas China Resources Land China Resources Power China Resources Shenzhen International Trust China Resources Vanguard China Road and Bridge Corporation China Satellite Communications China Shenhua Energy China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation China Shipping Container Lines China Shipping Development China Shipping Group China South Industries Group China Southern Airlines China Southern Power Grid China Southwest Airlines China State Construction Engineering China State Shipbuilding Corporation China Taiping China Telecom China Telecommunications Corporation China Three Gorges Corporation China Tobacco China Travel International Investment Hong Kong China Unicom China United Coalbed Methane China Yangtze Power China-Africa Development Fund Chunlan Group CITIC Group CITIC Guoan Group CITIC Guoan Information Industry CITIC International Financial Holdings CITIC Resources CITIC Securities CITIC Trust COFCO Group COMEC (company) Complant COSCO COSCO (Hong Kong) Group COSCO International Holdings COSCO Ship Ports CRRC CRRC Group CSC Financial CSG Holding D Dalian Port (PDA) Company Daqin Railway (company) Datang International Power Generation Company Datang Telecom Group Datang Telecom Technology Denway Motors Dongfang Electric Dongfeng Motor Corporation Dongxing Securities E Economy of China Everbright International Everbright Securities F FAW Group FAW Car FAW Jiefang Financial Street Holding Flying Pigeon Founder BEA Trust Founder Group Founder Technology Fushun Mining Group Fushun Petrochemical Company |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.foxnews.com] Quoting: The Deplorable Mechanic <50% Experts warned Thursday that the United States and China are barreling towards a potentially catastrophic trade war, citing each country's increasingly heated rhetoric and unique economic pressure points. Most Asian stock markets were holding early Friday, in an early sign that investors—for now--are brushing off concerns about the brewing brouhaha between the world's two biggest economies. President Trump on Thursday called for Robert Lighthizer, the U.S. trade representative, to consider $100 billion in additional tariffs against China. The two nations have already slapped each other with planned tariffs totaling $50 billion this week. But economic analysts said the situation -- which some U.S. news outlets have already branded a "trade war" -- could change rapidly, especially given the nations' ongoing war of words. China is as Communist as they come. All the major corporations in China are owned by the state. Look up the thousands of "State Owned Enterprises" As a consequence, they are subsidized by the state. Millions of farmer were forced off their lands and sent to make widgets in factories, a hallmark of communism. the Chinese People love Capitalism and they don't care about those Commie Tired Old Farts in The Forbidden City. . Capitalism is not just letting business owners have all the power. That is Communism. In Capitalism workers also have power which does not exist in China. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73255809 United States04/06/2018 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. No such thing as Communism? Holy crap we got a live one here! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States04/06/2018 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China will have another revolution soon their people have become used to many of the ways of the West and like it, they will not go backwards again without a fight. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56432837 It's happened before. nope. the People are very pleased with the way their Government is managing their Capitalist Utopia. . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76101204 Italy04/06/2018 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. No such thing as Communism? Holy crap we got a live one here! Communism is the opposite of Capitalism no?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73255809 United States04/06/2018 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. No such thing as Communism? Holy crap we got a live one here! Communism is the opposite of Capitalism no? Not according to you. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76101204 Italy04/06/2018 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. No such thing as Communism? Holy crap we got a live one here! Communism is the opposite of Capitalism no? Not according to you. It is closer to the Yuan dynasty... Or Totalitarianism. Yuan dynasty was ruled by the Mongols whose ideology was very close to Alexander the Great. |
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| BeenAround® User ID: 47991895 United States04/06/2018 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top White House economic adviser is saying, "Blame China, don't blame Trump," for any trade fight. Larry Kudlow said President Donald Trump means "enough is enough" and is demanding that China stop "stealing" American intellectual property. Read more here: [link to www.newsobserver.com (secure)] Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States04/06/2018 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top White House economic adviser is saying, "Blame China, don't blame Trump," for any trade fight. Quoting: BeenAround® Larry Kudlow said President Donald Trump means "enough is enough" and is demanding that China stop "stealing" American intellectual property. Read more here: [link to www.newsobserver.com (secure)] that'a boy Larry! Loyalty to Trump is what this Country needs. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76436955  Poland04/06/2018 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top White House economic adviser is saying, "Blame China, don't blame Trump," for any trade fight. Quoting: BeenAround® Larry Kudlow said President Donald Trump means "enough is enough" and is demanding that China stop "stealing" American intellectual property. Read more here: [link to www.newsobserver.com (secure)] Fuck American intellectual property, LOL It's stolen from others and produced with stolen money anyway |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess we will find out won't we. I'm not saying the market may not take a hit. But China will most definitely be on the losing end of this. It's simple economics. There are numerous countries that get the short end of the stick because there is only so much we can export and a large portion goes to China. Now, they find the other avenues to sell the bread basket; China loses. Plain and simple. Americans Have the Most to Lose in a Trade War [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Hardly, most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and many homeless. Tell me, how much worse can it get when you are living in a tent walking around feces from other homeless. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mathematically China has to lose. It's that simple. The trade imbalance is so large. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75430122 Came here to say this. Tariff threats on US imports is a joke. Oh noez! What will we do with our Soybeans and scrap metal? (Answer: sell to Leafland at a slight discount who would then export to China). They could raise prices or even halt shipments of their own shit but they'd have to sell that shit elsewhere, and at a cheaper price. And that alternate destination could just reship those goods (This is actually the bulk of Singapore's revenue). I'm sure plenty of the ASEAN countries would like to be the next Singapore haha. LMFAO This is a good argument about whether or not china is ... the weaker in a game of wars, like this ones playing out. Do they need America.... most economist would say yes, because based on the old system of financial transactions via UN and other humanitarian aspects the currency has value. I would say, with the current anomalies in both currency and humanitarian currency, they don't see the value in capitulating to the dominant powers. China can't eat assembled cheap junk. They have a billion people to feed and they get the majority of that feed from other countries. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree, our military and government pokes its noses in other countries where it does not belong. But how is it pushing the world around when we create tariffs, are even if we refuse trade altogether with another country? As a nation, any nation is entitled to cancel all trade with anyone they choose. If me and you are trading baseball cards, either of us have the right to quit! |
| OldWhiteGuy User ID: 56380478 United States04/06/2018 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. China isn't communist?... lol.... ok, Guido, whatever you say. Go drink some more wine. Get over it or die mad. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. China isn't communist?... lol.... ok, Guido, whatever you say. Go drink some more wine. Aye China is a Communist Nation. All the Major Corporations are owned and subsidized by the government there. China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Across China, bulldozers are leveling villages that date to long-ago dynasties. Towers now sprout skyward from dusty plains and verdant hillsides. New urban schools and hospitals offer modern services, but often at the expense of the torn-down temples and open-air theaters of the countryside. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76101204 Italy04/06/2018 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No such thing as communism.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 China is a bigger Capitalist Country than the US... Their box office receipt just surpassed the US. And their singles day sale netted $40 billion dollars. They were never communist, they went that way to protect themselves against western imperialism. FFS, they were the ones who invented money and created the first trade route. Silk road. You dumb rednecks need to get some education. China isn't communist?... lol.... ok, Guido, whatever you say. Go drink some more wine. Aye China is a Communist Nation. All the Major Corporations are owned and subsidized by the government there. China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Across China, bulldozers are leveling villages that date to long-ago dynasties. Towers now sprout skyward from dusty plains and verdant hillsides. New urban schools and hospitals offer modern services, but often at the expense of the torn-down temples and open-air theaters of the countryside. Go wallow in your own fake news... Dumb yanks! I will enjoy your fall... You are a cursed Nation don't you know? You shed too much blood... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76437501 United States04/06/2018 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China was in the process of signing with General Electric about building 20 Nuclear reactors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76101204 Looks like Russia will get it... Bill Gates Consortium is building the Cadillac of all Nuclear Reactors in China now. . They need those reactors to power their mega cities. GE is no longer an American Corporation. They are a Globalist Corporation that have no allegiance to any country. Most of their widgets are made in China. They also have not paid any taxes. Global Corporations should be footed the bill for global defense which is in the trillions of dollars. |
