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Feel free to discuss the prophecy aspect of events in the Middle East.

 
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But it could be an area what has seen lots of war for centurys so blood spilled,shit i dont know but its scary,login of to make my peace now!
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= ) No probs, If you have any good link or videos i would be glad to see them
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I have this book at home, written in 1918. Dispensational Truth by Clarence Larkin, this is a pretty good replication of it.
[link to www.preservedwords.com]
I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. I took a lot of drafting, so the charts appeal to me especially.
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Another Larkin reader. Congrats to you, fellow Christian.

You just won my respect
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Far as I know, anyone who reads the bible, has a say in what it might mean.
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I want to be respectful of all who read this, however this statement right here is why there is such confusion in endtime events.
I've been studying Biblical Endtimes prophecy for over 30 years and have an intense interest in geopolitical issues.

The Apostle Peter wrote of this in His Epistle:

2Pet 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pet 1:21
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I've noticed, especially since the rise of 'christian' television, that eisegesis is the standard method of interpretation. This is a weakness that the enemy of our souls will easily exploit in the endtimes. Rather, lets:

2Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

A prerequisite of your study ought to be humbly leaning heavily upon the Holy Spirit in prayer
to teach you the meaning of the Scriptures.
There are many that know what the Scriptures say,
but few who truly know what they mean

Just be careful into whose basket you place your eggs ...
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Hard to believe that even big-name Bible teachers have interpreted prophecies in such a glaringly erroneus manner. For example, there are prophecies centered around the 38th chapter of the Old Testament book of Ezekiel, which they often interpret as a near-time event in which Russia will invade Israel, along with several surrounding nations. BUT.....that prophecy has some underpinnings - that Israel at that time will be living at peace, that it will be a nation of "no walls", and that "My Servant David" shall be ruling. Now that is a well-worn euphemism for Messiah. Unless anyone out there believes that Benjamin Netanyahu is the Messiah and that he's gonna tear down the nation's walls and make lasting peace with everybody.....that prophecy does not apply to the present time.

My two cents worth.
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er read your bible again. No where does it say "my servant David" would be ruling. I think your the one that's got the skewed view based on the fact that what your even saying is not true of God's word.

Some people would argue that Israel is the most at peace now than it has ever been. Also there really are no walled VILLAGES in Israel, which literally makes it true. It doesn't really say the entire nation would not be walled.

But of course we shall see soon enough how things will be.
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Along with the fact that the Gog/Magog 'war' during Christ's
1000 year Kingdom Reign is not an actual 'war'.

Christ wipes them out in one fell swoop.
Over/Done.

There appears to be no exchange of hostilities between the Camp of the Saints and those of Gog/Magog.

Could also be a near/far double fulfillment prophecy ...
The near being a complete destruction of Gog's forces, leaving but a sixth part of them.
[showing God's Grace to a remnant?]
The far being the last straw, final destruction.
[Grace Age has run it's course]
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Re: Feel free to discuss the prophecy aspect of events in the Middle East.
But it could be an area what has seen lots of war for centurys so blood spilled,shit i dont know but its scary,login of to make my peace now!
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It is interesting, doesn’t the Biblical Armageddon take place in Damascus?
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It takes place in Israel but one major sign is "Damascus lying in ruin" from Isaiah 17. Soon after that happens, Israel is supposed to be attacked by her enemies and God miraculously intervenes, I believe.
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Damascus has never in its history been brought to ruin or destroyed, gets closer every day though.

Armageddon is the battle fought in the valley of Har Megido. Though its used colloquially now due to Hollywood to mean pretty much whatever you want. Pretty sure we haven't seen blood up to the horses bridles just yet.
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I always thought the horses bridles bit was a metaphor or reasoning of like how much blood ,so a human has 8 pints so 3feet deep for so many miles and wide, thats a lot of bodies to amount to how many gallons of blood so it means sumit different, someone could work it out to how many people at 8 pints a each,pluss its some sort of press,maybe people are rounded up world wide and dropped of in that place then zapped or pressed,scary stuff,what is god an his angelic army?
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“[T]his river of blood is 184 miles long, and its depth is the height of a horse’s bit. Now, if a horse’s bit is four feet high, we can calculate the volume required to fill a blood stream of varying widths, and as we know that the typical quantity of blood in a person is six quarts, we can then calculate how many people it would take to supply the blood. The blood from one billion human beings would make a stream not even twenty yards wide over this length of 184 miles
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Worth the listen....
 Quoting: S.O.S.


I finished to listen now.
Impressive.

And the girl who does the interview is so beautiful and has such a sweet voice.
Gloria Fortis Miles
Adversor et Admorsus
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"When you witness the black flags, stay still and refrain from doing anything. Then a weak group of people will appear who aren’t noticed. Their hearts are like pieces of iron. They are the people of ‘state’. They’re not faithful to any promise. They invite others to rightfulness, but aren’t righteous themselves. They’re names are aliases and their titles are names of cities. Their hairs are like that of a woman. They continue their wrong-doings until disagreements rise between them. “Then Allah will give right to whomever he wishes.”
Ghazi NoorollahShooshtari, “Ehqaq Alhaq” v.29,p.410,Hadith from Iman Ali
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Worth the listen....
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... about half-way he tells about WWIII (third haystack) ...
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... TURKEY provokes RUSSIA very severely and RUSSIA invades TURKEY in one night and completely conquers ...
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... this brings RUSSIA into conflict with NATO! ...
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... as a result RUSSIA and USA fight to the point where RUSSIA is utterly destroyed BUT the USA is crippled and insignificant ...
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... the vid is indeed worth the listen! ...
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Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts:
[link to www.grafted-promise.net]

Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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... and how would you see the WWIII events coming as a result of RUSSIA fighting TURKEY ...
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Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts:
[link to www.grafted-promise.net]

Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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... and how would you see the WWIII events coming as a result of RUSSIA fighting TURKEY ...
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 Quoting: wisconsin


Russia and Turkey are historical enemies. The bear and the wolf.
But in recent times Turkey seems to be closer to Russia than the US.

Let's see what will happen from now on.
Recalling that the pipeline that is being disputed in Syria passes through Turkey and from there it is distributed to Europe.
Gloria Fortis Miles
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The hope of those that seek Jesus Christ and promises given

The great connection of faith in the ending

the refining fire before heaven



Rev 12

Michael and the dragon
7 Then there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought the dragon. The dragon and his angels fought back, 8 but they did not prevail, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 So the great dragon was thrown down. The old snake, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world, was thrown down to the earth; and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say,

“Now the salvation and power and kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ have come.
The accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them day and night before our God,
has been thrown down.
11 They gained the victory over him on account of the blood of the Lamb
and the word of their witness.









Dan 12

12 “At that time, Michael the great leader who guards your people will take his stand. It will be a difficult time—nothing like it has ever happened since nations first appeared. But at that time every one of your people who is found written in the scroll will be rescued. 2 Many of those who sleep in the dusty land[a] will wake up—some to eternal life, others to shame and eternal disgrace. 3 Those skilled in wisdom will shine like the sky. Those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and always. 4 But you, Daniel, must keep these words secret! Seal the scroll until the end time! Many will stray far, but knowledge will increase.”

Waiting for the end time
5 I, Daniel, looked and suddenly saw two other figures—one standing on each side of the stream. 6 One said to the man clothed in white linen, who was farther upstream: “When will these astonishing things be over?”

7 I heard the man clothed in white linen, who was farther upstream, swear by the one who lives forever as he raised both hands to heaven: “For one set time, two set times, and half a set time. When the breaking of the holy people’s power is over, all these things will be over.”

8 I heard it, but I didn’t understand it. “My lord,” I said, “what will happen after all this?”

9 He said, “Get going now, Daniel, because these words must remain secret and sealed up until the end time. 10 Many will purify, cleanse, and refine themselves, but the wicked will act wickedly. None of the wicked will understand, but those skilled in wisdom will understand. 11 There will be one thousand two hundred ninety days from the time the daily sacrifice is stopped to the setting up of the desolating monstrosity. 12 Happy is the one who waits and reaches one thousand three hundred thirty-five days. 13 Now as for you, go on to the end. You will rest and will stand to receive your reward at the end of days.”
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bump
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bump for all the great input and links. Still trying to get through it all. hf
It's been swell, but the swellings gone down.- Tank girl

"To hell with them fella's. Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms." - Josey Wales.
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I’m waiting for Russia to head into Israel. I do not know what happens to the US, but the general consensus is that it will not be good. I think this less about us at this point, and all about Israel.

I also keep an open mind in relation to prophecy, because I believe He will give us the understanding as it is needed. He said to watch- so I’m watching.

Prophetically speaking, in my opinion, every single player is on the field and in position.

Did you know that the places in the OT where God ordered the Israelites to wipe everyone out and they failed to do so- are the hottest points of contention today? The Golan Heights is one.
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bump for all the great input and links. Still trying to get through it all. hf
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Im sure if you’re interested in info on pastors/teachers- but I’m sure we could give you a few to get your mind throughly boggled.
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36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


What is this verse to the Jewish people even though they don’t read it they have been saying it for a few thousand years.
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Is it true that we won’t know?
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Is it true that we won’t know?
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We don't know exactly 'when' in it will happen, as in the set time and date. We are given however various things to watch for. You can think of it like driving down a road w/o gps to tell you exactly when you will arrive. You know what the destination is, and you know you are getting closer by certain markers.

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It takes place in Israel but one major sign is "Damascus lying in ruin" from Isaiah 17. Soon after that happens, Israel is supposed to be attacked by her enemies and God miraculously intervenes, I believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30671160


Damascus has never in its history been brought to ruin or destroyed, gets closer every day though.

Armageddon is the battle fought in the valley of Har Megido. Though its used colloquially now due to Hollywood to mean pretty much whatever you want. Pretty sure we haven't seen blood up to the horses bridles just yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74012101


I always thought the horses bridles bit was a metaphor or reasoning of like how much blood ,so a human has 8 pints so 3feet deep for so many miles and wide, thats a lot of bodies to amount to how many gallons of blood so it means sumit different, someone could work it out to how many people at 8 pints a each,pluss its some sort of press,maybe people are rounded up world wide and dropped of in that place then zapped or pressed,scary stuff,what is god an his angelic army?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76476584


“[T]his river of blood is 184 miles long, and its depth is the height of a horse’s bit. Now, if a horse’s bit is four feet high, we can calculate the volume required to fill a blood stream of varying widths, and as we know that the typical quantity of blood in a person is six quarts, we can then calculate how many people it would take to supply the blood. The blood from one billion human beings would make a stream not even twenty yards wide over this length of 184 miles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76175909


This has already happened, with the last cataclysm.

Perhaps we are reading into things?

Though the potential for history to repeat itself is quite large.

The earth is covered in the blood of her children. We burn unceremoniously the blood of her first children, and the trees - and all life. There are 5 cataclysms, that have created layers of blood and bone and screams frozen in time....they weigh her down.

Some of this is about the past.

Some may be a potential future.

We do seem to fight over the same land. Why?

Really. Ask. Why.





GLP