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question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap

 
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05/04/2007 04:18 AM
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question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
ok, a friend of mine who lives in the USA is a member of a message board for fans of a band in the UK.
the son of one of the band members also frequents that board... and posts. hes from the UK.

anywyas, he also has a myspace and my friend was playing around and posting crazy cat pics on his comments section and he kept deleting them, because they were annoying, and she posted one cat pic.. of a nuclear cat, lol.. and it read "Things go boom!" lol. it was just stupid and funny, no harm in it.

anyways, this prompted him to delete it and also take her off his friends list.

a couple weeks later she was playing around on the message board with a couple of us (i'm a regular, well was..), and most of the fans on that forum hate this other band we like and always bashing them, so we went on there defending it, and just being silly and posting crazy shit (ok, wwe were kinda spamming it with crazy cat pics and shit). nothing threatening or anything. just really lame, bullshit. and we all got banned.

so then my friend, started a little fan board on the kids dad, the bassist. it was to go along with these other fan sites of the band. it was nothing bad or anything bad said or defamatory.


anyways,.. some idiots over at the main forum, started fucking around with the other members' accounts, tryig to obtain passwords and stuff. and posting anonymous defamotory messages to US.. when we did NOT to them. and i mean bigtime defamatory stuff.


so we reported this to the webhost security dept. and they were looking into it... with the Ip's we had and all.

anwyays, one member looked up the one IP of one of the "hackers" who was also posting some nasty messages.
to which he lived in an area in or around the band member's kid. so, one of the forum members wewnt and PM'd him and asked if he was messing with the accounts etc etc.. band kid freaked out.. went to the moderatr of the main board, complaining and freaking out and then we sent an apology, it wasnt even the kid doing the hackign afterall anyway. we werent even going to accuse him, it was the other guy who went off and started flipping out at the kid. we didnt even know he did it till afterwards. so ths was going to start all kinds of crap. great.

anyways, we sent an apolgy to the kid and he wrote back to my friend that if he ever sees his name memtnioned on that board by any of us, or by anyone else, he was going to take this further than just a PM and i guess legally.

could he actually get a legal thing on this nonsense??? whats the worst that could happen>? theres absolutely no proof or anything that anything bad really een happened!
Sigma

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05/04/2007 04:23 AM
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I dont know, but personally, I would have been fed up with you and/or your friend too. Enough is enough. She 'kept' posting pics on his myspace page that he deleted.... THATS A SIGN RIGHT THERE - STOP DOING IT.
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Campbell Randt

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05/04/2007 04:50 AM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
ok, a friend of mine who lives in the USA is a member of a message board for fans of a band in the UK.
the son of one of the band members also frequents that board... and posts. hes from the UK.

anywyas, he also has a myspace and my friend was playing around and posting crazy cat pics on his comments section and he kept deleting them, because they were annoying, and she posted one cat pic.. of a nuclear cat, lol.. and it read "Things go boom!" lol. it was just stupid and funny, no harm in it.

anyways, this prompted him to delete it and also take her off his friends list.

a couple weeks later she was playing around on the message board with a couple of us (i'm a regular, well was..), and most of the fans on that forum hate this other band we like and always bashing them, so we went on there defending it, and just being silly and posting crazy shit (ok, wwe were kinda spamming it with crazy cat pics and shit). nothing threatening or anything. just really lame, bullshit. and we all got banned.

so then my friend, started a little fan board on the kids dad, the bassist. it was to go along with these other fan sites of the band. it was nothing bad or anything bad said or defamatory.


anyways,.. some idiots over at the main forum, started fucking around with the other members' accounts, tryig to obtain passwords and stuff. and posting anonymous defamotory messages to US.. when we did NOT to them. and i mean bigtime defamatory stuff.


so we reported this to the webhost security dept. and they were looking into it... with the Ip's we had and all.

anwyays, one member looked up the one IP of one of the "hackers" who was also posting some nasty messages.
to which he lived in an area in or around the band member's kid. so, one of the forum members wewnt and PM'd him and asked if he was messing with the accounts etc etc.. band kid freaked out.. went to the moderatr of the main board, complaining and freaking out and then we sent an apology, it wasnt even the kid doing the hackign afterall anyway. we werent even going to accuse him, it was the other guy who went off and started flipping out at the kid. we didnt even know he did it till afterwards. so ths was going to start all kinds of crap. great.

anyways, we sent an apolgy to the kid and he wrote back to my friend that if he ever sees his name memtnioned on that board by any of us, or by anyone else, he was going to take this further than just a PM and i guess legally.

could he actually get a legal thing on this nonsense??? whats the worst that could happen>? theres absolutely no proof or anything that anything bad really een happened!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 223912


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RED when / where there's NO 'RED' to be seen.

Obnoxious behaviours are commonspace on the Internet; . . . and whilst I'd NOT encourage such things, . . . I DON'T really see most such behaviours as being either 'threats' or 'stalking.'

Nevertheless, I DO think that the aforesaid behaviours -- as outlined above in your Original Post -- should STOP.


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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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05/04/2007 05:07 AM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
we have stopped and promised to. i have no interest in doing anything else. and neither does my friend.

well really.. most of what i ddi wasnt reall directed at him it was at a mod, jokingly.. but.. my friend kept teasing the kid. i dunno.
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05/04/2007 05:08 AM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
i guess what im afraid of.. is, one of the idiots on the forum, who enjoy starting things and setting eachother up, will try and set one of us up, or make soemthing up and get him all freaked out again.
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05/04/2007 05:14 AM
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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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05/04/2007 11:27 AM
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2XSecretAgent

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05/04/2007 11:31 AM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
OP - How old are you?

Did you get sent to time out for your obnoxious behavior?
If not, GO SIT IN THE CORNER NOW.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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Anonymous Coward
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05/04/2007 11:41 AM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
This has been a real challenge, the law cannot keep up with the changes involved with the internet. In the UK the law is much stricter. However in the US we have state laws that vary, and Federal law against CyberStalking.

Federal Law 47 U.S.C. 223(h)(1) section 113 was re-worded as well, soon after it was signed.

Here is the basic short version.


Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."


But it is hard to prove.
Sigma

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05/04/2007 11:42 AM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
i guess what im afraid of.. is, one of the idiots on the forum, who enjoy starting things.....
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Do you see the irony here?
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Evil Twin

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05/04/2007 11:44 AM
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dorkboy

I think I'm going to wear this one out today.
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05/04/2007 11:30 PM
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Babe in a Bunker

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05/04/2007 11:37 PM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
anyways,.. some idiots over at the main forum, started fucking around with the other members' accounts, tryig to obtain passwords and stuff. and posting anonymous defamotory messages to US.. when we did NOT to them. and i mean bigtime defamatory stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 223912



Is it kinda like if I said:
AC 223912 gargles with dog semen every morning?

Because that would suck.
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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05/05/2007 12:32 PM
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Re: question about an internet 'stalking' kind of a thing and legal crap
OP - How old are you?
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