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Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?

 
Phishy
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Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?
Hey folks-

Ok, So I am starting to prep a bit for the inevitable SHTF scenario... and I stumbled upon some interesting info.

I have Diverticulitis which is a intestinal disorder that requires me to take the antibiotic Ciprofloxin (Cipro) when flare ups occur.

My doctor will only give me a script for 20 pills at a time, But I found a company online called Thomas Labs that sells Ciprofloxin marketed for fish in Hundred counts.

they sell the exact dose that I am being prescribed through my doc. So what do you folks think?

Think its the same stuff, or should I avoid it?

Here's a link to the product page.

[link to www.thomaslabs.com (secure)]
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Re: Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?
I'm allergic to anything with "cillin" in it. but from what i understand this is common practice. it is essentially the same.
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ciprofloxacin*
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Re: Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?
Same stuff. Just look up the proper dosing.
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They are the same thing. They work. You can buy roughly 500 500mg Amox for $120. At 30 pills a dose, that's over 16 full doses, or $7.50 per infection.
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Re: Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?
I'm allergic to anything with "cillin" in it. but from what i understand this is common practice. it is essentially the same.
 Quoting: allentownchemtrail


Same stuff. Just look up the proper dosing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37829245


They are the same thing. They work. You can buy roughly 500 500mg Amox for $120. At 30 pills a dose, that's over 16 full doses, or $7.50 per infection.
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Sweet, Sounds good, Thanks for the feedback folks.
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I keep a shelf with just about every available antibiotic all under fish labels to bypass having to get a vet or doctors perscription. They are 100% exactly the same pills from the same manufacturer just in a different bottle label at a much cheaper price.

Btw before you do something stupid at take ciprofloacin plz read up on it and cipro toxicity. Of all the antibiotics those fuckers will ruin your life. They are more like taking chemo, they are pure poison and should only be used as a last measure if no other antibiotics were working. Do read up on it as they are nothing like amoxicillin or azythromycine or doxycycline which are more or less harmless unless you are allergic.
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Oh and always check the expiration date if you are storing them. Some of these antibiotics will destroy your kidneys if they go well beyond their expo date. Forget which the real bad ones were but there were one or two of the antibiotic families that absolutely cannot be taken after expiration date
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I keep a shelf with just about every available antibiotic all under fish labels to bypass having to get a vet or doctors perscription. They are 100% exactly the same pills from the same manufacturer just in a different bottle label at a much cheaper price.

Btw before you do something stupid at take ciprofloacin plz read up on it and cipro toxicity. Of all the antibiotics those fuckers will ruin your life. They are more like taking chemo, they are pure poison and should only be used as a last measure if no other antibiotics were working. Do read up on it as they are nothing like amoxicillin or azythromycine or doxycycline which are more or less harmless unless you are allergic.
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I have taken it numerous times before, and yes the side effects suck, drained energy and dehydration, but it does do the job knocks out the flare-ups. Maybe I'll ask my doc about an alternative to see if any others work just as well without the side effects.
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It's my understanding that they are the same. I'd also recommend keeping the means to manufacture colloidal silver.
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if you do get them you will soon find out why they are in pill form.

the taste of them is putrid.
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Cipro toxicity is accumulative. You will not notice it until it reaches a threshold for your body and everyone’s threshold is different. It changes the dna to your mitochondria permanently as well as permanently damages joints and ligaments. It has now been given the black label by the fda. It’s not a normal antibiotic it is extremely powerful toxin and is now being researched as possibly being the actual cause of fibromyalgia. Symptoms of cipro toxicity can take up to a year to appear as well which make tracking it back to the drug very difficult
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the drs in this nation have become treasonous

tell em to go fuck themselves

No reason you cant just have human medicine prescribed to keep on hand for an ongoing situation

only reason he wont give you more, is because he wants your money

he wants you to come in for every script for every flare up, thats how he gets paid

and your health, your quality of life is meaningless to them, all they care about is their wallet
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Cipro toxicity is accumulative. You will not notice it until it reaches a threshold for your body and everyone’s threshold is different. It changes the dna to your mitochondria permanently as well as permanently damages joints and ligaments. It has now been given the black label by the fda. It’s not a normal antibiotic it is extremely powerful toxin and is now being researched as possibly being the actual cause of fibromyalgia. Symptoms of cipro toxicity can take up to a year to appear as well which make tracking it back to the drug very difficult
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Yeah, I was reading some awful stories about it, Really rethinking this shit now. Maybe Amox is a better way to go.
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Not really... to be honest antibiotics should be much more tightly controlled then they are right now. As it stands right now we have 8 superbugs which are now resistant to all known antibiotics because of people randomly taking their own or not finishing their treatments and these bacteria are mutating and proliferating as super untreatable bacteria. At this rate if these superbugs get main stream many routine surgeries will be extremely dangerous since antibiotics won’t do a damn thing for infections.
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Re: Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?
Not really... to be honest antibiotics should be much more tightly controlled then they are right now. As it stands right now we have 8 superbugs which are now resistant to all known antibiotics because of people randomly taking their own or not finishing their treatments and these bacteria are mutating and proliferating as super untreatable bacteria. At this rate if these superbugs get main stream many routine surgeries will be extremely dangerous since antibiotics won’t do a damn thing for infections.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76331779


mainstream propaganda.


God gave us natural antibiotics, in the form of plants, roots, and oils.

There is no bacteria on this planet that would survive a Garlic, Oregano oil and Ginger blast.


The doctors are lying to you.


The medical establishment is lying to you



The media is lying to you.


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The survivors will be genetically superior, if you need antibiotics ever, they will cull you.

Those who are judging
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I keep oregano oil extract and Allicin power pills in my supply kit as well as many other vitamins and colodial silver and Manuka honey and even make my own manuka honey/colloidal silver lozenge for throat infections. But don’t kid yourself. Oregano oil and allicin from garlic is a topical and does not enter the blood stream in any significant amount to be a full body antibiotic. They are very effective as topical and entering membranes as is honey and colloidal silver. If you can reach the infection then yes very effective.. if you can’t then we’ll good luck bro. Maybe they will just open you up and spread some Allicin and honey on your innards to kill that pesky MRSA that’s killing you lol
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As a side note, if you get a throat infection take an Allicin capsule (not a garlic pill or odorless garlic nonsense if it doesn’t specifically say “Allicin” then you ain’t getting the effective part of the garlic don’t buy the crap that says alliin as it will not breakdown and create Allicin in your body at effective levels or actually be where you need it to be once the enzymes change it)

Take 2 of the capsules, open them up and put them in a very small glass of HOT water with dissolved Manuka honey. Mix it up and then gargle it for as long as you can keep it up. It will end throat infections better then anything so long as it’s bacterial.
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Three cloves of garlic is stronger than the strongest pill form antibiotic on the market.

I cured a tooth abscess in 24 hours with it and never needed a dentist follow up, it killed the infection. Dose 2 times a day (3 cloves at a time) and it will kill some of the worst infections.
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bump
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OP - TL delivers.. I'm starting to suspect potency as I've been on a course that hasn't been fully effective and now on same dosage from pharmacy.. seems to be working.. could be coincidence or bad timing.

I've been stocking up from TL and have placed a number of orders.. for my.. aquarium. I buy multiple smaller containers of forte to preserve efficacy longer.

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How on earth do you get a fish to swallow a FN big pill??
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OP - TL delivers.. I'm starting to suspect potency as I've been on a course that hasn't been fully effective and now on same dosage from pharmacy.. seems to be working.. could be coincidence or bad timing.

I've been stocking up from TL and have placed a number of orders.. for my.. aquarium. I buy multiple smaller containers of forte to preserve efficacy longer.
 Quoting: PureSnow


have you used any of it? or just stocking up?
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How on earth do you get a fish to swallow a FN big pill??
 Quoting: crackerland 76346144


lol, you dissolve it in water then pour it in the aquarium... or so I'm told.
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I keep a shelf with just about every available antibiotic all under fish labels to bypass having to get a vet or doctors perscription. They are 100% exactly the same pills from the same manufacturer just in a different bottle label at a much cheaper price.

Btw before you do something stupid at take ciprofloacin plz read up on it and cipro toxicity. Of all the antibiotics those fuckers will ruin your life. They are more like taking chemo, they are pure poison and should only be used as a last measure if no other antibiotics were working. Do read up on it as they are nothing like amoxicillin or azythromycine or doxycycline which are more or less harmless unless you are allergic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76331779


This. cipro is only a last resort medicine. Fluoride based antibiotics will fuck you up. Check out Minocycline and see if it will work for you, and, yes, Fish stuff is the same thing as the pharmacy dispenses.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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This thread right here is the reason that I love GLP...

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This thread right here is the reason that I love GLP...

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It's worth every penny.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Keep them in the freezer.

I got a lot of meds from All day Chemist. Overseas, no script.
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Re: Fish antibiotics for personal/ SHTF use?
yes it's exactly the same stuff made by the same companys marked exactly the same.
put into different bottles and sold for 'pets' for cheap.

been using it for years. saved so much.

the site fishmoxfishflex.com is good/fast/cheap/safe/reliable.

stupid name tho.


just don't be stupid with what you take and why.
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Our local feed store has discontinued the sale of
doxycycline without a vet prescription. I used to get
it for my dog who has really bad teeth but now I can't
get my hands on it. (Been saving up to get her teeth pulled
but they are talking $1,000 given her age.)

Anyone have a link to buy a doxycycline equivalent in
the fish category? Would sure appreciate that!

cheers
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