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Black Knight (OP) User ID: 76338768 United States 04/20/2018 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76136858 Netherlands 04/20/2018 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand that people need to have insurance today for their medical needs. However in a system where the healthy pay for the needs of the unhealthy, there have to be more healthy people that pay and do not receive than there are that receive and do not pay enough for their own care. I am not surprised that in a country that has to go to India to find teachers that know mathematics the general population does not understand math. Unfortunately, math rules and when you screw with the numbers, eventually the whole thing falls apart. Quoting: Black Knight You understand people need health insurance but you don't want to pay for it. That's nice to know you greedy bully. |
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Black Knight (OP) User ID: 76338768 United States 04/20/2018 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand that people need to have insurance today for their medical needs. However in a system where the healthy pay for the needs of the unhealthy, there have to be more healthy people that pay and do not receive than there are that receive and do not pay enough for their own care. I am not surprised that in a country that has to go to India to find teachers that know mathematics the general population does not understand math. Unfortunately, math rules and when you screw with the numbers, eventually the whole thing falls apart. Quoting: Black Knight You understand people need health insurance but you don't want to pay for it. That's nice to know you greedy bully. No Neiderlander, you are being unreasonable. I know working people that have paid $4K a month for their health care out of their 401K's and ridiculous rates of over $2K a month for a family that does not go to the doctor more than a couple of times a year for antibiotics. A reasonable price is my argument and I am sorry that you cannot see that. If you need any more explanation I am here for you. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
Black Knight (OP) User ID: 76338768 United States 04/20/2018 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of my points, thank you. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76136858 Netherlands 04/20/2018 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand that people need to have insurance today for their medical needs. However in a system where the healthy pay for the needs of the unhealthy, there have to be more healthy people that pay and do not receive than there are that receive and do not pay enough for their own care. I am not surprised that in a country that has to go to India to find teachers that know mathematics the general population does not understand math. Unfortunately, math rules and when you screw with the numbers, eventually the whole thing falls apart. Quoting: Black Knight You understand people need health insurance but you don't want to pay for it. That's nice to know you greedy bully. No Neiderlander, you are being unreasonable. I know working people that have paid $4K a month for their health care out of their 401K's and ridiculous rates of over $2K a month for a family that does not go to the doctor more than a couple of times a year for antibiotics. A reasonable price is my argument and I am sorry that you cannot see that. If you need any more explanation I am here for you. So you know some people are paying what the Gov't says they can afford in health insurance. They don't want to pay it because they're greedy. Your complaints aren't working here, pal. |
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Black Knight (OP) User ID: 76338768 United States 04/20/2018 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand that people need to have insurance today for their medical needs. However in a system where the healthy pay for the needs of the unhealthy, there have to be more healthy people that pay and do not receive than there are that receive and do not pay enough for their own care. I am not surprised that in a country that has to go to India to find teachers that know mathematics the general population does not understand math. Unfortunately, math rules and when you screw with the numbers, eventually the whole thing falls apart. Quoting: Black Knight You understand people need health insurance but you don't want to pay for it. That's nice to know you greedy bully. No Neiderlander, you are being unreasonable. I know working people that have paid $4K a month for their health care out of their 401K's and ridiculous rates of over $2K a month for a family that does not go to the doctor more than a couple of times a year for antibiotics. A reasonable price is my argument and I am sorry that you cannot see that. If you need any more explanation I am here for you. So you know some people are paying what the Gov't says they can afford in health insurance. They don't want to pay it because they're greedy. Your complaints aren't working here, pal. Actually the healthcare.gov site can issue policies to people that gives them a Tax Credit (NOT a tax deduction) for their insurance premiums that the IRS will even pay on a monthly basis with the subscriber paying a small part of the cost. Don't be a dick, please. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
Beetlepumprr User ID: 76187211 United States 04/20/2018 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Healthscare When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. jimi Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. I'm just a product of insufficient modality. Humans of Earth! I have come in peace. You need not fear me. I mean you no harm. However, it may be important to know that most of you will not survive the next 24 hours. And those of you who do survive will be enslaved and experimented on. You should in no way take any of this personally — it's just business! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76136858 Netherlands 04/20/2018 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76136858 You understand people need health insurance but you don't want to pay for it. That's nice to know you greedy bully. No Neiderlander, you are being unreasonable. I know working people that have paid $4K a month for their health care out of their 401K's and ridiculous rates of over $2K a month for a family that does not go to the doctor more than a couple of times a year for antibiotics. A reasonable price is my argument and I am sorry that you cannot see that. If you need any more explanation I am here for you. So you know some people are paying what the Gov't says they can afford in health insurance. They don't want to pay it because they're greedy. Your complaints aren't working here, pal. Actually the healthcare.gov site can issue policies to people that gives them a Tax Credit (NOT a tax deduction) for their insurance premiums that the IRS will even pay on a monthly basis with the subscriber paying a small part of the cost. Don't be a dick, please. You're the one who has Bush's pal from Texas, Tommy Franks, as your avatar. I think that tells me all I need to know about you. You political hacks need to get a life. You feel so empty and void without politics because you need the drama. This whole healthcare thing isn't even something you care about. All you care about is bitching. I bet that's all you do to the people around you. You complain day and night about "Libtards". Don't ever wonder why if people distance themselves from you. |
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Wondering Mind User ID: 73265267 United States 04/20/2018 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Black Knight And have you noticed that historically speaking, poor people tend to not have teeth? Dental care is another luxury that the wealthy like to keep to themselves. I'm 45 years old and I've only been to the dentist 3 times and I have all My teeth. My father also never goes to the dentist and He has all His teeth so I don't think poverty has anything to do with it. Must be a genetic component. I've never seen a black person with bad teeth. Then again, dental care is 99.9% personal responsibility and .01% dental care. There is no substitute for genetics, to be sure. I saw a news story last July about a free dental care event that was held like a flea market in Virginia last year. From what was shown in the clips, most of the work was extractions. There were many people that came here from many different States to get free dental care, many Virginia people never made it through the wait time. They could not stand up to the long and hot wait time, or they had no way to get there. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
Black Knight (OP) User ID: 76338768 United States 04/20/2018 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Black Knight No Neiderlander, you are being unreasonable. I know working people that have paid $4K a month for their health care out of their 401K's and ridiculous rates of over $2K a month for a family that does not go to the doctor more than a couple of times a year for antibiotics. A reasonable price is my argument and I am sorry that you cannot see that. If you need any more explanation I am here for you. So you know some people are paying what the Gov't says they can afford in health insurance. They don't want to pay it because they're greedy. Your complaints aren't working here, pal. Actually the healthcare.gov site can issue policies to people that gives them a Tax Credit (NOT a tax deduction) for their insurance premiums that the IRS will even pay on a monthly basis with the subscriber paying a small part of the cost. Don't be a dick, please. You're the one who has Bush's pal from Texas, Tommy Franks, as your avatar. I think that tells me all I need to know about you. You political hacks need to get a life. You feel so empty and void without politics because you need the drama. This whole healthcare thing isn't even something you care about. All you care about is bitching. I bet that's all you do to the people around you. You complain day and night about "Libtards". Don't ever wonder why if people distance themselves from you. Hey stupid, that's not Tommy Franks who ever the heck he was. I am not going to do your homework for you but here's a hint: 15 Aug 2015, Ft. Meyer's, VA. I am trying to help you be more than an idiot. Oblige me, please. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
MostlySunshine User ID: 73358000 United States 04/20/2018 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before The Affordable Care Act/Obamacare we really couldn't afford health care/insurance and a lot of people i've talked to couldn't afford it. Then I don't know anyone that could afford the ACA/Obamacare. They wanted $600 a month for my husband & I. That isn't affordable. Not when you have other obligations that they don't factor in. So we gambled and didn't buy it and now we're fucked. My husband is sick now and there is nothing we can do. Hospital bills out the wazoo. I'm telling you all don't gamble if you don't have to. At least take care of yourself. I won't lie my husband is sick from his own bad choices. However if people can't afford health care/insurance and the government apparently makes it "affordable" and people still can't afford it and then if you don't buy it you have to pay a fine that you still can't afford then there is a huge fucking problem. Ain't no sunshine when she's gone...ain't no borderline psychotic emotional outbursts either. Some days you just have to create your own sunshine. |
Black Knight (OP) User ID: 76338768 United States 04/20/2018 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jkm1864 I'm 45 years old and I've only been to the dentist 3 times and I have all My teeth. My father also never goes to the dentist and He has all His teeth so I don't think poverty has anything to do with it. Must be a genetic component. I've never seen a black person with bad teeth. Then again, dental care is 99.9% personal responsibility and .01% dental care. There is no substitute for genetics, to be sure. I saw a news story last July about a free dental care event that was held like a flea market in Virginia last year. From what was shown in the clips, most of the work was extractions. There were many people that came here from many different States to get free dental care, many Virginia people never made it through the wait time. They could not stand up to the long and hot wait time, or they had no way to get there. Wow, that is sad. If our society cannot help those that cannot afford to keep the teeth in their mouths, then how can we have any hope at all? He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76136858 Netherlands 04/20/2018 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76136858 So you know some people are paying what the Gov't says they can afford in health insurance. They don't want to pay it because they're greedy. Your complaints aren't working here, pal. Actually the healthcare.gov site can issue policies to people that gives them a Tax Credit (NOT a tax deduction) for their insurance premiums that the IRS will even pay on a monthly basis with the subscriber paying a small part of the cost. Don't be a dick, please. You're the one who has Bush's pal from Texas, Tommy Franks, as your avatar. I think that tells me all I need to know about you. You political hacks need to get a life. You feel so empty and void without politics because you need the drama. This whole healthcare thing isn't even something you care about. All you care about is bitching. I bet that's all you do to the people around you. You complain day and night about "Libtards". Don't ever wonder why if people distance themselves from you. Hey stupid, that's not Tommy Franks who ever the heck he was. I am not going to do your homework for you but here's a hint: 15 Aug 2015, Ft. Meyer's, VA. I am trying to help you be more than an idiot. Oblige me, please. You're a liar. [link to www.gettyimages.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76136858 Netherlands 04/20/2018 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Black Knight Actually the healthcare.gov site can issue policies to people that gives them a Tax Credit (NOT a tax deduction) for their insurance premiums that the IRS will even pay on a monthly basis with the subscriber paying a small part of the cost. Don't be a dick, please. You're the one who has Bush's pal from Texas, Tommy Franks, as your avatar. I think that tells me all I need to know about you. You political hacks need to get a life. You feel so empty and void without politics because you need the drama. This whole healthcare thing isn't even something you care about. All you care about is bitching. I bet that's all you do to the people around you. You complain day and night about "Libtards". Don't ever wonder why if people distance themselves from you. Hey stupid, that's not Tommy Franks who ever the heck he was. I am not going to do your homework for you but here's a hint: 15 Aug 2015, Ft. Meyer's, VA. I am trying to help you be more than an idiot. Oblige me, please. You're a liar. [link to www.gettyimages.com (secure)] Even if it was Ray Odierno it wouldn't make it any better since he's Obama's political general. [link to www.gettyimages.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15575561 United States 04/20/2018 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is pretty much why a few times when I was in severe pain and thought I was going to die, it was "whatever happens happens". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76491648 Medical care is too expensive. It is for rich folk and non whites. It's the same for me. I treat myself. Medicaid is to dangerous. It is for livestock and zombies. you would never entrust your livestock to a medicaid type set up. believe me. the morans clamoring for this OVERPRICED OVERHYPED MEDICAID SET UP REFUSED to listen to `1st hand experience on how "it" works nd that remains treating symptoms until untreatable and then telling you such and such procedure can't help NOW. anyone that wound up on SSI SSD knows what i'm talking about regarding the bs medicaid is for chronic conditions and their disabling problems etc. NOW these azzzholes know that all they GOT is a form of medicaid complete w/outright denials , overrides,CASE MANAGEMENT,networks ,inappropriate networks,losing doctors on and on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15575561 United States 04/20/2018 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand that people need to have insurance today for their medical needs. However in a system where the healthy pay for the needs of the unhealthy, there have to be more healthy people that pay and do not receive than there are that receive and do not pay enough for their own care. I am not surprised that in a country that has to go to India to find teachers that know mathematics the general population does not understand math. Unfortunately, math rules and when you screw with the numbers, eventually the whole thing falls apart. Quoting: Black Knight You understand people need health insurance but you don't want to pay for it. That's nice to know you greedy bully. fugh off and before YOU DO, explain why anyone else IS TO BE responsible FOR YOUR health CARE expenses. there used to be a place called the business office located in hospitals where YOUR payments got worked out and IF wiling to VERIFY WHY your payments could not get worked out you went over to the medicaid office and worked it all out. you're a free loader. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76262971 United States 04/20/2018 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....when basically it is just another Insurance Scam. In the olden days, doctors who treated patients successfully, made a living, and then even made very good livings applying their trade to treat and cure illness. And they deserved to turn a profit, certainly if they knew what they were doing. Quoting: Black Knight How the hell did things get so bad demented that the "System" morphed into a "For Profit" Gold Mine that was so ridiculously profitable that it is now able to support a massive army of Lawyers, Insurance Executives, Administrators and Political hacks that all feed off of the proceeds like kings? Is it even morally right to fleece the sick, the infirmed and the dying out of so much cash? The Stupid, well you know what W.C. Fields said about them - he was right, they deserve to get hosed. I heard a radio commercial on a NYC AM station a couple of years ago that touted a certain hospital. The line of shit they were spewing went something like... You would pay any price for one more week of life, for one more hour, for one more minute. When your life is on the line come to our hospital because we love desperate sick people". Paraphrasing somewhat, nonetheless the message was clear. If this is true and too many Americans feel this way and are willing to fork over every red cent they have for the honor of carrying a plastic card in the wallets, then you may as well cue the Fat Lady because the opera is almost over. Whenever the GOV slaps a name on a program the realty is is that it is the opposite of what they named it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76428236 United States 04/20/2018 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I worked on their vehicles the same way they practice medicine, they would refuse to pay me and I would spend 4 days a week in court! Looks like they are out to bankrupt Medicare, or just get all they can. Doc asked if I smoke. It cost $40 for him to ask that question. It was itemized as 20 minute smoking cessation counseling. Every visit to him was billed at level 4, which is usually reserved for first visits or highly detailed, more complex visits. Out of pocket for those visits was killing me, so I prescribed no further visits unless broken or bleeding. I shucked out thousands and got absolutely nowhere. |
HarshingMyMellow User ID: 76470492 United States 04/20/2018 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doctors as a whole are sick evil people Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76103944 they know they are doing evil Some will leave people in torment just to keep milking their insurance. They know. ========================== Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. |