Negative and harmful psychic entities attach to people on this site.

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My storey is truely original unpretentious garbage , that’s what makes it unique.

What would you call one who knowingly and willfully invites a discarnate entity inside, knowing they can 'drain it to the point of its death' solely for the purpose of teaching that entity something it would otherwise be ignorant of for millenia?

Now please answer this separately: what if they invited it in knowing they are more powerful than it, but at present it has abilities they are not permitted to use and the invite was a 'trap' to force the entity's compliance which that entity soon realizes is to its benefit as well?

This is more than a 'bully' / 'victim' situation; it is a moral philosophical question.
I'm being as direct as I can be here.

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Last Edited by aether on 05/12/2018 06:35 PM

I might unpack this a bit out of order, let's see...



does forcing compliance mean the entity to the mutual benefit of its host cannot use its special powers either, or does forcing compliance mean the special powers are use jointly for joint ends?

Isn't it the same reason a village would offer a maiden to a serpent deity so that the rest of its people were spared its wrath?

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Maybe there is something apocryphal about the belly of the beast. Something you can learn on the inside that you can't learn on the outside.

I think this is the origin where most shamanistic powers are derived.

I might call the entity a dragon or a serpent myself, but I think your definition would depend on where you saw your intentions as primarily coming from. Or where others judged your intentions to be.

If the intention is draining the entity, that seems like an archon/devil type thing.
But teaching it seems more god-like.

To do both...is...
stewardship?

At this point, it seems like a mutual thing

Wonderful answer.

Thank you for your honesty.

Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 05/12/2018 08:06 PM

Post more. You are good guy. Fact.

This is also a salient point.

If an act of selfless kindness if perceived by others as one of malintent, does their perception itself change the meaning of the act?

Thank you. Your rationale and belief are well intended.

Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 05/12/2018 08:20 PM

I'm not sure there can be 'jointness' if the discarnate is entrapped. You have caused me to pause and think upon this to a greater degree.

Always thought I was victim, that they manipulated fed on me, then realized there was something about my energy, and that maybe was inviting it.

it's always been like i knew and wanted to play that game, ya know

the chaos and fire, self-destruction, then the bullchit rebound toward the light, i liked.. which was the attraction


yin/yang, give and take

it's always been constant, not sure i truly want to break free

Is that 'bad'?
Certain behavior seems to attrackt the feedback loop granted, and we are all ultimately responsible for our own actions...I think that's just a necessity to accept beyond moral judgements because we can only control our own 'hand'.
I guess if breaking free was, deep down, what you really truly wanted...it would be a different storey for you.

But I'm thinking of the promethean fire thing again...was prometheus bad? I think the collective unconscious sees prometheus as more of a tragic hero than a trickster who brought eternally recurrent punishment upon himself.

It's nice to tell ourselves that we could disconnect from technology and we would be our own masters again...but is that actually true? Doesn't that 'game' you mention, still persist, even privately in contemplation?

I think what I'd want to know more than anything else is for those who have seeker and finder energy, what is a 'good' move?

Last Edited by Tallow Candle on 05/12/2018 08:48 PM

You are what you eat?
Let me stop and think about that one for a minute.

When i posted that and you stepped away for awhile i felt like absolutely heard all your thoughts, flowed right into me

perhaps im just crazy

and yes, the time loop, been thinkin about it this past week

thinkin i could break out if really wanted to

funny you mention that

what is the differnce between finder and seeker energy, if you don't mind me askin

I remember reading the Buddha said "understanding is the root of love"...

It's easier to dehumanize or to dismiss when we see the other as malignant or unjust. But when we understand where one another are coming from...it's generally a place with good intentions.

Folie à deux is a problem, but it also means there is a communication issue which is at least a problem with an identifiable solution.

But, it takes two to tango, so if communication isn't open from both ends, no understanding can be reached.

Sometimes, you don't know what role you're playing at any given moment, either.

Occlusion in the apple of our father's eye.

No, that doesn't sound crazy to me at all, but once you've been around the block of ontological inquiry once or twice, you start to see a lot of things differently.

Finder and seeker energy...
Well finder energy attracts answers and seeker energy attracts questions.
I think it's easy to assume that finder energy is superior but sometimes answers without proper questions can become future mistakes.

Always thought there were just questions.. what good are answers if they just lead to more questions.. never-ending questions

there has to be something else.. another way

I know what you mean. It's like if you accepted the answer as the book's ending, it would be over, somehow without satisfying.

I have seen images that seem to transcend this, but I still have to go about the daily business of living, I can't dwell within some ascended master's picture all the time.

I guess art would be 'another way' so to speak. But many artists are driven insane regardless of that outlet...

In considering an alternative have you come up with anything promising?

can't think of an alternative except the ultimate one maybe

which would be to.. nevermind...it really doesnt matter.. it's all talk.. stuck within the time loop talk

maybe time is the enemy

how to stop it.. maybe then the unknown can become the known

don't know.. stuck here with you

apperciate you though.. the discussion

I once had a trip about trying to convince God NOT to reset the universe and start humanity over...
My argument was something to the effect of, "everything is redeemed in the laughter of children"
If we can create innocence, perhaps we can integrate the spirit of innocence in ourselves.
To a child whose novelty centers are easily stimulated, all of the jaded sights and scenes of the adult are a garden of delight.

Maybe that's why I keep going on about this sense of play...games etc. All that dark stuff needs is a bit of humor for a funeral celebrating death to become a wake celebrating life.
Our framing of perspective becomes either a cell wall or an open door. I am still trying to figure out how this works out if you're not in a monk in a monastery though.

The time thing...I feel like that's a big black cube too. Thinking about that...

to me it's all bullchit now, ive read this and that, demonic energies have made themselves know to me throughout my life, good spirits, and even God as well

doesn't matter...don't even care about the end game

only thing i care about is relating to my fellow human being when i go in the world each day, especially at work, since im hot shot driver, and i deal with 20 different people everyday, and then dealing with those on the road, the man on the street, then the birds and nature and trees, when i get home, and my dog, and my neighbors

thats all that matters to me now...not heaven or hell.. or reward..or punishment.. just thinkin do I have love in my heart for my fellow humans and nature, or do i have bitterness and contempt.. i could care less about God or Satan...what they think.. or what manipulative energies see or think.

I know i care, and see people as my brothers and sisters on earth, and we all are in the same plight... thats what matters to me.. just try to understand more each day

sorry for the long rant,, drinkin

I honestly think that's a noble road to follow. The philosophical road can become so alienating as to make one feel unreal. But the connection to another human being, that is immediate and real. We experience ourselves through others...

And if you treat people well, that's what really matters, isn't it? When our decision to be good to others comes from a belief in the dignity of the human spirit...everyone is elevated. Have you ever seen Pay it Forward? That movie really broke my heart, but it had an incredible message.

It seems do. Most of the most popular and all of the leadership.

Trough trickle down economics it affects us all

I come to this place to observe.

I honestly think the demons want to shut down sites like these. The demons don't lead people to places like this, they lead them to the couch to watch cnn.