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Oklahoma House passes ‘Constitutional Carry’ gun bill (No Permit Needed!)

 
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Constitutional carry is NOT carrying concealed.
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Constitutional carry is the right to carry, concealed or open. We have had our Constitutional right to carry in Wyoming for several years. We can carry concealed without a permit, with few restrictions. Having a permit lets you carry a few places that are not allowed without it. The only good reason to have a Wyoming carry permit is the reciprocity with other states. With a permit, you can also carry in all the red states, and some of the blue states.
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wrong.

Read the law, asshat.
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"Representatives passed a controversial bill that would allow anyone over 21-years-old without a felony conviction to carry a handgun without a license Wednesday."

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Looks like I'm moving. ;p
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Well come on down! Gun lovers are welcome here.
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States should not need a law to say citizens can exercise their Constitutional rights! That unfortunately is not how it works today, so I pray for the people of Oklahoma. Every state needs to affirm their citizens right to keep and bear arms. Contrary to what the liberal media says, Constitutional carry reduces crime dramatically. Criminals prefer unarmed victims.
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Well said my friend!
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We passed Constitutional Carry a couple years back in Maine. And kept our right to buy firearms from our neighbor as long as we are over 21, a resident of Maine, and and have not committed a felony. It has worked out great for the state and its people. Hope all states pass this law and we have reciprocity bill to back it too.
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So by calling it "Constitutional" carry and them having to pass a law to make it so, are they admitting that the Constitution is null and void?
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Does kind of seem that way, doesn't it.
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Yay for Oklahoma!

I am rather fond of Oklahoma myself!
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Constitutional carry is NOT carrying concealed.
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Constitutional carry is the right to carry, concealed or open. We have had our Constitutional right to carry in Wyoming for several years. We can carry concealed without a permit, with few restrictions. Having a permit lets you carry a few places that are not allowed without it. The only good reason to have a Wyoming carry permit is the reciprocity with other states. With a permit, you can also carry in all the red states, and some of the blue states.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


wrong.

Read the law, asshat.
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wrong? post your evidence bub......
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Yay for Oklahoma!

I am rather fond of Oklahoma myself!
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Well have an Okie flower then! hf
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Constitutional carry is NOT carrying concealed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24388207


Constitutional carry is the right to carry, concealed or open. We have had our Constitutional right to carry in Wyoming for several years. We can carry concealed without a permit, with few restrictions. Having a permit lets you carry a few places that are not allowed without it. The only good reason to have a Wyoming carry permit is the reciprocity with other states. With a permit, you can also carry in all the red states, and some of the blue states.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


wrong.

Read the law, asshat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24388207


wrong? post your evidence bub......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10485453


Yeah, I won't claim to know every aspect of the laws in different states but Epic Beard Guy's comments generally prove to be quite accurate.
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outstanding......

I just watched a speech by Mary Taylor who's running for governor of Ohio and she said she will sign it if it hits her desk....
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That's fantastic! Hopefully the rest of the country will follow the example.
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if you can post a youtube video......

go to youtube, then Budget Guns and Gear Reviews

about 10 videos back you'll see:

Ohio Lt. Governor Mary Taylor

......Come and Take it!
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This the one?


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bump
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Glad I live in Oklahoma...

This is a very good bill that just passed...

Think of everyone open carrying, no terrorist would try and start anything. This will become one of the safest States in the Union to live....
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needing a bill for this - it's already in the constitution.

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We passed Constitutional Carry a couple years back in Maine. And kept our right to buy firearms from our neighbor as long as we are over 21, a resident of Maine, and and have not committed a felony. It has worked out great for the state and its people. Hope all states pass this law and we have reciprocity bill to back it too.
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So by calling it "Constitutional" carry and them having to pass a law to make it so, are they admitting that the Constitution is null and void?
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this guy gets it
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We passed Constitutional Carry a couple years back in Maine. And kept our right to buy firearms from our neighbor as long as we are over 21, a resident of Maine, and and have not committed a felony. It has worked out great for the state and its people. Hope all states pass this law and we have reciprocity bill to back it too.
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So by calling it "Constitutional" carry and them having to pass a law to make it so, are they admitting that the Constitution is null and void?
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I like the way you think, it does really have some interesting word to it.
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Glad I live in Oklahoma...

This is a very good bill that just passed...

Think of everyone open carrying, no terrorist would try and start anything. This will become one of the safest States in the Union to live....
 Quoting: DuckNCover


I've made this exact argument to those who oppose the measure. It will surely make someone looking to do mass damage think twice when every citizen has the means to stop him. As it is probably one out of every dozen or so are already carrying with a permit.. this makes me feel safer in public venues.


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We passed Constitutional Carry a couple years back in Maine. And kept our right to buy firearms from our neighbor as long as we are over 21, a resident of Maine, and and have not committed a felony. It has worked out great for the state and its people. Hope all states pass this law and we have reciprocity bill to back it too.
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We in AZ have been enjoying constitutional carry for many years now. The only reason I bothered to get A. CCW here is reciprocity with other states.
Welcome to the club OK!
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99.999% of the people who open carry are law abiding citizens who would gladly hand over their gun to an officer should the situation require it.100% of the people who are out there killing people are hiding their gun(s) until their crime is completed.
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We passed Constitutional Carry a couple years back in Maine. And kept our right to buy firearms from our neighbor as long as we are over 21, a resident of Maine, and and have not committed a felony. It has worked out great for the state and its people. Hope all states pass this law and we have reciprocity bill to back it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74005628


We in AZ have been enjoying constitutional carry for many years now. The only reason I bothered to get A. CCW here is reciprocity with other states.
Welcome to the club OK!
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hf
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Well done Oklahoma!!!

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99.999% of the people who open carry are law abiding citizens who would gladly hand over their gun to an officer should the situation require it.100% of the people who are out there killing people are hiding their gun(s) until their crime is completed.
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An excellent point well stated!
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Yay for Oklahoma!

I am rather fond of Oklahoma myself!
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Yay for you!

I am fond of you ac!
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Glad I live in Oklahoma...

This is a very good bill that just passed...

Think of everyone open carrying, no terrorist would try and start anything. This will become one of the safest States in the Union to live....
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I have always said that gun laws would become more relaxed before they come clamping down.
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As a resident of Oklahoma I have to say that I fully support this bill!

The process to attain a permit at the moment is a tad silly. I suspect that it is more about the money made than being sure that those carrying are qualified. There is very little on gun safety during class or range testing which is what most new shooters really needed. There is some information on legalities but most should be common sense. What's more, none of the steps in the process would have weeded out a potential criminal who did not have previous convictions on a variety of crimes, a background check at the time of firearm purchase is far more inclusive. It's time that bills of this nature are passed nationwide to allow law abiding, responsible citizens to defend themselves and loved ones from those that would do harm!

Senate Bill 1212 would allow anyone who owns a gun to carry it without a permit.

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"We ought to be able to carry any gun whether we are licensed or not.' Doesn't the Supreme Court contradict that 'cause it's not actually a right?" said Rep. Collin Walke.

Supporters say better efforts are need to screen potential gun buyers, but that shouldn't punish current gun owners.

"Would it surprise you that the majority that have committed heinous crimes either have mental health conditions or the background checks have not been followed up? We're failing on that end. We need to concentrate on that end and not hinder our law-abiding citizens," said Rep. Justin Humphreys.


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"It will allow people in Oklahoma to have a gun to protect themselves without putting themselves in jeopardy and without going through the entire permit process and paying close to $300," Mike said.

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I think that this quote here explains why some don't want this bill and it has nothing to do with the safety of citizens.

“The Oklahoma State Bureau of investigation gets a great deal of money from the permitting process,” Coody replied, “So they simply are concerned about revenue over the freedom of law abiding citizens.”

[link to www.news9.com]

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Here is the bill itself for those interested.

[link to www.oklegislature.gov]
 Quoting: Zuzu


Awesome thread Zuzu
Also a fellow Oklahoman!
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As a resident of Oklahoma I have to say that I fully support this bill!

The process to attain a permit at the moment is a tad silly. I suspect that it is more about the money made than being sure that those carrying are qualified. There is very little on gun safety during class or range testing which is what most new shooters really needed. There is some information on legalities but most should be common sense. What's more, none of the steps in the process would have weeded out a potential criminal who did not have previous convictions on a variety of crimes, a background check at the time of firearm purchase is far more inclusive. It's time that bills of this nature are passed nationwide to allow law abiding, responsible citizens to defend themselves and loved ones from those that would do harm!

Senate Bill 1212 would allow anyone who owns a gun to carry it without a permit.

Quotes under 50%:

"We ought to be able to carry any gun whether we are licensed or not.' Doesn't the Supreme Court contradict that 'cause it's not actually a right?" said Rep. Collin Walke.

Supporters say better efforts are need to screen potential gun buyers, but that shouldn't punish current gun owners.

"Would it surprise you that the majority that have committed heinous crimes either have mental health conditions or the background checks have not been followed up? We're failing on that end. We need to concentrate on that end and not hinder our law-abiding citizens," said Rep. Justin Humphreys.


snip

"It will allow people in Oklahoma to have a gun to protect themselves without putting themselves in jeopardy and without going through the entire permit process and paying close to $300," Mike said.

Edit
_____________________________________________________

I think that this quote here explains why some don't want this bill and it has nothing to do with the safety of citizens.

“The Oklahoma State Bureau of investigation gets a great deal of money from the permitting process,” Coody replied, “So they simply are concerned about revenue over the freedom of law abiding citizens.”

[link to www.news9.com]

Edit
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Here is the bill itself for those interested.

[link to www.oklegislature.gov]
 Quoting: Zuzu


You needed a permit to constitutional carry? LOL
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Constitutional carry is NOT carrying concealed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24388207


At this time (legally) we need a permit to carry either concealed or openly. Obviously this is not constitutional but with this bill our constitutional rights that have been infringed upon will be legally reinstated. The fact that there is a need to reinstate them is unconstitutional to begin with. Those rights should never have been tampered with. hf

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Boy, that was a serious overuse of the word constitution! chuckle
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No such thing. We need to all be saying this.... talking about it.

But I understand your humor here... lol
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outstanding......

I just watched a speech by Mary Taylor who's running for governor of Ohio and she said she will sign it if it hits her desk....
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She'll have my vote!
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One caution here....

I sure as hell hope this bill stipulates that one must be a US citizen to carry. Hate to think we're giving our potential and future enemies here this same right to carry.

I mean...... that's a big deal isn't it?
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Is this the same State that was allowing Cops to drain peoples bank accounts from the side of the road?

How did that turn out? Anyone remember?





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