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Something that confuses me about the bible.

 
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Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
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Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
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You don't know the SPIRIT.

You think God weak to be fooled, or his disciples, especially after Judas.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
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YOU are False.


Paul preached Jesus Christ.

YOU do not love, serve or follow Jesus Christ.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45466362


YOU are False.


Paul preached Jesus Christ.

YOU do not love, serve or follow Jesus Christ.
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He didnt preach Jesus' gospel though.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45466362


You don't know the SPIRIT.

You think God weak to be fooled, or his disciples, especially after Judas.
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Do you know the spirit? What is the spirit telling you?
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Romans 13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

I want to please God, but I'm having trouble accepting the part in bold.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
 Quoting: Harabec


God uses tptb to accomplish the end result...

separating the wheat from the chaff.

horn2

You can see that happening throughout the Old Testament.

The 2 kings of Babylon, early in Daniel, are probably the best example.

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I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45466362


gaah

Jesus chose 12 in the beginning.

One was discarded.

Then He chose Paul as the replacement 12th apostle.

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I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Romans 13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

I want to please God, but I'm having trouble accepting the part in bold.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
 Quoting: Harabec


Very simple.

everything that happens or not...

God either makes it happen.

Lets it happen

or prevents it from happening.

God has a plan and He is in Control.

That is how His prophecies always come true 100% of the time.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
If you are an adult and believe in gods and magic you are retarded. There is no need to get specific like in the OP.
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It's The Truth

If you can accept it

The life of a rebel is hell
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I'm having trouble believing that the very same people who are setting up the new world order are ordained by God.
 Quoting: Harabec


It doesn't have the same meaning as the modern day powers that be term.
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It's The Truth

If you can accept it

The life of a rebel is hell
 Quoting: TheAviator


I'm having trouble believing that the very same people who are setting up the new world order are ordained by God.
 Quoting: Harabec


It doesn't have the same meaning as the modern day powers that be term.
 Quoting: Peepaws


Although throughout scripture, God typically gave the people leaders that they "deserved" - they'd be a reflection of their own hearts. It's in the vein of reaping what we sow.

Ultimately, 2 Chronicles 7:14 provides the recourse ;)
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Saul of Tarsus (aka "Paul") is a FALSE APOSTLE. Do not believe anything he wrote.

He is not a real apostle. There were only 12 true apostles.

Saul/Paul was a jewish pharisee who infiltrated to destroy the movement from within by teaching false doctrine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45466362


YOU are False.


Paul preached Jesus Christ.

YOU do not love, serve or follow Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74797654


He didnt preach Jesus' gospel though.
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What do you think the Gospel Good News of Jesus Christ is?
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Because it is exactly what Paul preached.
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Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great,
saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead,
and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.


Paul


But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:
for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
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To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just,
and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.


Paul


Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,
how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once;
of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle,
because I persecuted the church of God.



Paul
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I find it hard to believe that you can not see the irony of a passage from the book of ROMANS, in a book WRITTEN BY ROMANS, that tells you to serve (subject yourself to) "The powers that be" because they (were programmed to) believed that their Leaders were gods .... duh

you really need to check the source of your BS (belief system) before you adopt it as your way of life, as a slave

the Bible was designed, to get the Roman "subject" to accept INEQUALITY ... they were "gods" and everyone else on earth, were considered their slaves ... The original "christian" church was the ROMAN CATHOLIC (WORLD) CHURCH - which by the year 2000 had gained dominion of the Earth - as evidenced by the fact that the entire world celebrated the "Gregorian" New Year's day, as the "official" start of a new year ... thanks to two thousand years of god worshipers, promoting, the ROMAN "gospel" to the ends of the earth ... that only grants their followers a reward for their faithful service, after they die lmao

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Zactly.

People should read up on the formation of the early Christian Church.

Lots of killing to get what was wanted.
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There is only one writer of THE BIBLE! GOD! All killing was done by evil men, not GOD!
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No, the Bible consists of several books and authors, and doesn't claim to be the inspired word of God as compiled and canonized.
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According to freewill you can say it. But it is not THE TRUTH!
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Does your lack of freewill prevent you from learning the history of how the sacred book you put so much relevance in came into existence? I think it does. Otherwise you could not ignore the ambiguous selections for inclusion and the relation of the beliefs of those who made those decisions. Nor could you pretend that the cultural and political influences of the day also played a tremendous role in building this collection of unfact-checked writings.

I guess getting all hyper because you think your nonintellectual feelings are, to you, greatly more valid than actual proven history allows you to win the debate in your mind.

Congratulations. You're mentally 6 years old.
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I find it hard to believe that you can not see the irony of a passage from the book of ROMANS, in a book WRITTEN BY ROMANS,
 Quoting: Shadow Dance

Paul is SuperJude...
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I find it hard to believe that you speak about The Bible as if you actually know anything about The Bible and that you believe you...
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Deep thoughts

A rebel will bring damnation
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Deep thoughts

A rebel will bring damnation
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That's ridiculous.
Jesus was a rebel.
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Deep thoughts

A rebel will bring damnation
 Quoting: TheAviator


That's ridiculous.
Jesus was a rebel.
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To who?
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you can argue the bible into endless infinity
its a circle jerk of endless self-congratulating over dead mens scrolls

there is no truth to it

if the Bible never existed, the Universe would be unchanged.
(new topic?)
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Yes! Your universe would be unchanged! The suffering of death.
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It's The Truth

If you can accept it

The life of a rebel is hell
 Quoting: TheAviator


I'm having trouble believing that the very same people who are setting up the new world order are ordained by God.
 Quoting: Harabec


Why? Its prophwsied in the bible. God knows the end and the beginning. You just need to submit your will to God and trust that He is in control of everything. It is the way to freedom and peace. These things must happen in order for the second coming of the messiah. Rejoice.
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Deep thoughts

A rebel will bring damnation
 Quoting: TheAviator


That's ridiculous.
Jesus was a rebel.
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Jesus Christ is THE TRUTH! Not a rebel!
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Yes, do you have a soul?, if not contact your Creator being accordingly.
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I find it hard to believe that you speak about The Bible as if you actually know anything about The Bible and that you believe you...
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Maybe, if you read THE BIBLE your sentence structure would make sense!
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
The bible between the covers is a manmade collection of tales, some bullshit, some trune some of no consequence one way or another.
It's a book, half myth, half suggestion, half insignificant half lifechanging.
But not all of it is important.
You have to figure out what is important and what is crap.
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What is hard to understand? God is telling you that you are his, body, soul and eternal being. seems simple.
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If any government goes against the teachings of God, it is not lawful government. You are under no obligation to obey it if it opposing the instructions of God.

Politicians who are not in accordance with the teachings of God should be immediately removed for good cause.
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Re: Something that confuses me about the bible.
Romans 13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

I want to please God, but I'm having trouble accepting the part in bold.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
 Quoting: Harabec


Very simple.

everything that happens or not...

God either makes it happen.

Lets it happen

or prevents it from happening.

God has a plan and He is in Control.

That is how His prophecies always come true 100% of the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69139218


That would violate our freewill. We are called to subdue THE EARTH. Not be subdued by anyone or anything like nature. However GOD is THE TRUTH. By accepting THE TRUTH we live in his will!





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