Something that confuses me about the bible.

man

well-written answer.

Changes made. Seek The Father in Spirit and in Truth and you will know Him.
Shady Shady Stuff being allowed now within the publishing companies.
Nothing New, been going on since the catholic church started.

What helped me understand this was defining omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.

Power is only what we allow to control us.

What parent does not not want questions from their child? Fuk'd up parents.

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They are the synagogue of satan, my son.

Substitute man for they in what I wrote and you get

God hates that...so man say

To mean God did not say anything about questioning everything. Rather man is claiming God hates questioning only to compel people to submit to those claiming they speak on God's behalf.

Remember, Paul wrote Romans, and before he did he killed every Judaite who converted to Christianity believing himself as an authority doing God's work. And even though he repented when he met Christ on the way to Damascus, Peter never fully trusted him.

Question everything, especially what man says or writes about God.

In a way one could say God owns life itself and was a gift and mankind actually owns nothing and should be following the rules of God, not living so selfish and greedy. God didn't make this world so mankind could enslave one another using money.

Oh, I got it. Not all men for certain, only the controlling LARGE ORGANIZED religions.

Romans 13:12
"The night is far gone, and the day is near. Let’s therefore throw off the deeds of darkness, and let’s put on the armor of light."
Jewish Bible Complete
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Reread it.

Jesus taught me this the other day, that no one possesses power but only God IS power. What people and animals and nature are given is authority over that power in certain and limited ways.

So reread it and don't assume it's talking about humans only. I thought of when I was caught in and almost died by hurricane-strength waves at the beach. Had I continued to resist the waves, that power ordained by God, I wouldn't be here, but I stopped resisting and God spew me out the ocean.

The meek (submissive, obedient, rule-followers) shall inherit the earth.

Jesus said resist the devil but don't resist a violent person.

Power (among men) is only given by authority. Everyone is human but some have authority over others.

So if you put your pride in check and just go 25mph in a 25mph zone, and obey all speed limits, then you won't have to worry about police behind you or being one to cause an accident. Rules are nice and Satan wants anarchy, that's why God blessed us with order through government which is just believing in giving and accepting authority.

Jesus Christ, Gold Almighty, a man, the one who has every right to command you, does your pride resist HIM like it might resist another man? If we disobey rules and the authority of others why would we think that we would obey Jesus?

seems like free will and consequences... godlessness, turning from the Creator and Sustainer of all life, must have consequences...so we get the rulers we deserve...God creates both good and evil. nothing exists unless He allows. By controlling the consequences God controls who rules. This does not mean the rulers are godly. The middle ground: "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's"...meaning we are not to do anything that is immoral, even if it means death...as in, renouncing faith or obeying orders that are evil.

sometimes it is hard to keep in mind that the wheat and tares are allowed to grow together. there are literally people who hate God living among us. often they pose as Christians and "good" people...while their goals are evil.

this life is short. eternity is long. "

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness..."

you can argue the bible into endless infinity
its a circle jerk of endless self-congratulating over dead mens scrolls

there is no truth to it

if the Bible never existed, the Universe would be unchanged.
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What you mean dont resist a violent person?

Are Christians the violent ones?

No. Communists and Atheists are.

I wouldn't.

What you said just then is BULLSHIT.

What's your fucken angle?

Isaiah 45:7

New International Version
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

New Living Translation
I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the LORD, am the one who does these things.

English Standard Version
I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the LORD, who does all these things.

New American Standard Bible
The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.

King James Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Christian Standard Bible
I form light and create darkness, I make success and create disaster; I am the LORD, who does all these things.

Contemporary English Version
I create light and darkness, happiness and sorrow. I, the LORD, do all this.

Good News Translation
I create both light and darkness; I bring both blessing and disaster. I, the LORD, do all these things.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I form light and create darkness, I make success and create disaster; I, Yahweh, do all these things."

International Standard Version
"I form light and create darkness, I make goodness and create disaster. I am the LORD, who does all these things.

NET Bible
I am the one who forms light and creates darkness; the one who brings about peace and creates calamity. I am the LORD, who accomplishes all these things.

New Heart English Bible
I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create calamity. I am the LORD, who does all these things.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
I make light and create darkness. I make blessings and create disasters. I, the LORD, do all these things.

JPS Tanakh 1917
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

New American Standard 1977
The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.

Jubilee Bible 2000
I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.

King James 2000 Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create calamity: I the LORD do all these things.

American King James Version
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

American Standard Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

Darby Bible Translation
forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.

English Revised Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

Webster's Bible Translation
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

World English Bible
I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create calamity. I am Yahweh, who does all these things.

Young's Literal Translation
Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I am Jehovah, doing all these things.'

Angels are immortal, men are mortal. Angels are very strong but God denied them the emotions that men were given as that is what makes them good parents and good shepherds to the other flesh they were given dominion over. Ge:6 shows that without that tings go wrong for Angels. In their new heaven they can be given in marriage and their child would be born perfected and not be in danger of ending up in the fiery lake.
Men will be immortal and still know about good and evil when they are in the new earth.
God sets the timeline for the changes and since progression is shown all flesh will eventually enter the same new heaven that angels are rewarded with.

Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,


They aren't, they are an abomination in God's view.



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Or maybe you will be held to account for promoting a false religion and for discouraging people from thinking freely and finding more truth.

If I may please, it is a matter of what books were accepted as Canon into the Christian Bible. Some were accepted, some were discarded, some were edited to exclude those portions that did not fit the political beliefs of the time: that the rulers were the chosen of God and were to be followed absolutely was added--you just discovered one of those sentences that 'gave power' to the leaders of the day.

The Christian bible, in its present form is very much a direct result of the Council of Nicaea, also called First Council of Nicaea, convened in 325. It was the first ecumenical council of the Christian church, meeting in ancient Nicaea (now Iznik, Turkey).

It was called by the emperor Constantine I, an unbaptized catechumen, who presided over the opening session and took part in the discussions. He hoped a general council of the church would solve the problem created in the Eastern church by Arianism.

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[I suffer from 'double post damnation']

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Remove it, SEE with the spirit. Get BEHIND me SATAN.

Nor you. If a large number of manuscripts agree on a sequence of events and a few found books disagree which do you trust and why? I'm going to trust manuscripts closer to the source. Gnosticism is wrong the only reason people grab onto it is because one it's not traditional Christianity so they get to feel like a rebel and two it resembles universalism/a lot of new age BS. My dad always spoke highly of the books you speak but that's only because of his interest in Buddhism.

When looking at cannot you have to ask yourself "do all of these puzzle pieces connect?". With the old testament and new testament put together it is a resounding yes. Tell me who the gnostics believe the seed of WOMAN (strange choice of words right? until you consider a virgin birth).

Daniel speaking of the Son of Man. Isaiah prophesying the Messiah calling him almighty God. Abraham describing the sight of THREE men approaching him and while the two men (angels) go off to Sodom, the third man stays behind whom is identified as the LORD. The small details we miss like the criminal being let go instead of Jesus his name barrabas literally translates to "son of the father".

Jesus was a man but he was also more then that. He possesses two nature's mortal and divine because he entered into creation to live a perfect life on our behalf teaching us and ultimately by HIS choice laying down his life so we can escape our shackles of sin.

There was no official rabbinical priesthood at the time so there goes that assumption that Jesus had to be married. Yes Jesus had to die so I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding Jesus but what you need to be aware of is he died for you because he loves you that much. He suffered the worst death for all of us and all we need to do is believe on him and repent from our sinful ways.

circumstances surrounding Judas*

I reject the Counsel of Nicea.

Nope, the NT is not consistent with the OT, and the NT is not internally consistent. The canon wasn't always set in stone either.

So why do you accept any books in the Bible? Who do you think compiled and canonized it for you? And the Protestant Bibles also contained the Apocrypha.

No, Isaiah explicitly says the messiah will be a God-fearing servant. The trinity idol is a filthy abomination invented by team satan.

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Kings are given great privileges and almost always they abuse it somehow but they also have great responsibility. David was a murderer and an adulterer and those were death penalty sins. I don’t understand it well yet but God (and israel) could collectively forgive him.

Kings still have to answer to God. If they don’t they and their nation gets punished or even uprooted.

ps i’m not a pastor or expert on these matters I’m just a brother.