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MASSIVE! Hornady Halts Ammo Sales to NY Government Agencies | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74775434 United States05/03/2018 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud the decision based on principle. The problem is that the taxpayers are the ones who will be screwed because of this. Smaller supply drives higher prices. Even if they ALL refused to sell ammo to govt/fed/etc at least one opportunist (or greedy bastard depending on your viewpoint) would sell them what they wanted at much higher prices. These would be passed along to all of us. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76538350 United States05/03/2018 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is good but even if all the big manufacturers join in they will just buy from Lake City. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5751660 Well, Thread: NRA sues California over restrictions on ammo sales and Thread: So It Begins..Second amendment Snubbed! CA Ammunition Controls Force Temporary Halt to Walmart Ammo Sales and Thread: California Ammunition Control 2018 and Thread: Bullet control? Wasserman Schultz wants ammunition background checks and Thread: It Begins: Florida Resident’s Firearms, Ammunition Confiscated Under Gun Control Law and Thread: Democrats Pitch Bill Creating 50 Percent Tax On Gun, Ammo Sales and Thread: WALMART Raising Age to buy ammo/guns to 21! Thread: Vista Outdoor caves to the anti-gun liberals. Vista Outdoor to stop manufacturing guns but continue to sell ammo |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7835328 United States05/03/2018 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gun and ammunition manufacturers should do this to all non-free state government agencies such as California, Illinois, Hawaii, Connecticut, etc. In the meantime Hornady anything should be on our buy list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538350 “Today, the State of New York did one of the most despicable acts ever perpetrated by any state by asking New York banks, financial institutions and insurance companies to stop doing business with the gun and ammo industry,” Hornady President Steve Hornady wrote. “While it may not make a difference to New York, Hornady will not knowingly allow our ammunition to be sold to the Government of the State of NY or any NY agencies. Their actions are a blatant and disgusting abuse of office and we won’t be associated with a government that acts like that. They should be ashamed.” [link to www.shootingillustrated.com (secure)] Call them to show your support: Hornady® Manufacturing 3625 West Old Potash Hwy Grand Island, NE 68803 USA Phone: 1-800-338-3220 Phone: 1-308-382-1390 They need to hear from you! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7835328 United States05/03/2018 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud the decision based on principle. The problem is that the taxpayers are the ones who will be screwed because of this. Smaller supply drives higher prices. Even if they ALL refused to sell ammo to govt/fed/etc at least one opportunist (or greedy bastard depending on your viewpoint) would sell them what they wanted at much higher prices. These would be passed along to all of us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74775434 Don't make a stand because it may cost you a few bucks? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69766872 United States05/03/2018 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gun and ammunition manufacturers should do this to all non-free state government agencies such as California, Illinois, Hawaii, Connecticut, etc. In the meantime Hornady anything should be on our buy list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538350 “Today, the State of New York did one of the most despicable acts ever perpetrated by any state by asking New York banks, financial institutions and insurance companies to stop doing business with the gun and ammo industry,” Hornady President Steve Hornady wrote. “While it may not make a difference to New York, Hornady will not knowingly allow our ammunition to be sold to the Government of the State of NY or any NY agencies. Their actions are a blatant and disgusting abuse of office and we won’t be associated with a government that acts like that. They should be ashamed.” [link to www.shootingillustrated.com (secure)] |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 76507625 United States05/03/2018 03:43 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hornady is a great American company. The rest should follow suit.  Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| 4thhorseman User ID: 76285318 United States05/03/2018 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bravo!!! SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
| 4thhorseman User ID: 76285318 United States05/03/2018 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bravo!!! SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68560474 United States05/03/2018 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gun and ammunition manufacturers should do this to all non-free state government agencies such as California, Illinois, Hawaii, Connecticut, etc. In the meantime Hornady anything should be on our buy list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538350 “Today, the State of New York did one of the most despicable acts ever perpetrated by any state by asking New York banks, financial institutions and insurance companies to stop doing business with the gun and ammo industry,” Hornady President Steve Hornady wrote. “While it may not make a difference to New York, Hornady will not knowingly allow our ammunition to be sold to the Government of the State of NY or any NY agencies. Their actions are a blatant and disgusting abuse of office and we won’t be associated with a government that acts like that. They should be ashamed.” [link to www.shootingillustrated.com (secure)] Hornady probably does not sell direct to the Government anyway. Hornady should compose a letter and send to all its resellers asking them to NOT sell Hornady to states like NY. This should also include the states residents, as they voted these sick bastards into power... |
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| Gator!! User ID: 76411489 United States05/03/2018 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud the decision based on principle. The problem is that the taxpayers are the ones who will be screwed because of this. Smaller supply drives higher prices. Even if they ALL refused to sell ammo to govt/fed/etc at least one opportunist (or greedy bastard depending on your viewpoint) would sell them what they wanted at much higher prices. These would be passed along to all of us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74775434 It doesn't get much higher than Hornady. I would be surprised if they ponied up for Hornady in the first place. If so, the real victims are the police officers that have to do their job without access to the best ammunition in the market. Good for Hornady though! They will always be my go to when I need match grade ammo.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45004603 United States05/03/2018 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gun and ammunition manufacturers should do this to all non-free state government agencies such as California, Illinois, Hawaii, Connecticut, etc. In the meantime Hornady anything should be on our buy list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538350 “Today, the State of New York did one of the most despicable acts ever perpetrated by any state by asking New York banks, financial institutions and insurance companies to stop doing business with the gun and ammo industry,” Hornady President Steve Hornady wrote. “While it may not make a difference to New York, Hornady will not knowingly allow our ammunition to be sold to the Government of the State of NY or any NY agencies. Their actions are a blatant and disgusting abuse of office and we won’t be associated with a government that acts like that. They should be ashamed.” [link to www.shootingillustrated.com (secure)] Hornady probably does not sell direct to the Government anyway. Hornady should compose a letter and send to all its resellers asking them to NOT sell Hornady to states like NY. This should also include the states residents, as they voted these sick bastards into power... ^^ This ^^ Hornady does most it's business through distributors so unless they jump onboard, it's probably moot. It may not be much of an impact anyway as Hornady is not known for making cheap (or inexpensive) practice ammo. Winchester and Speer has that locked down. The SWAT / tactical response teams might notice, I suppose. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7835328 United States05/03/2018 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All gun and ammunition manufacturers should do this to all non-free state government agencies such as California, Illinois, Hawaii, Connecticut, etc. In the meantime Hornady anything should be on our buy list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538350 “Today, the State of New York did one of the most despicable acts ever perpetrated by any state by asking New York banks, financial institutions and insurance companies to stop doing business with the gun and ammo industry,” Hornady President Steve Hornady wrote. “While it may not make a difference to New York, Hornady will not knowingly allow our ammunition to be sold to the Government of the State of NY or any NY agencies. Their actions are a blatant and disgusting abuse of office and we won’t be associated with a government that acts like that. They should be ashamed.” [link to www.shootingillustrated.com (secure)] Hornady probably does not sell direct to the Government anyway. Hornady should compose a letter and send to all its resellers asking them to NOT sell Hornady to states like NY. This should also include the states residents, as they voted these sick bastards into power... ^^ This ^^ Hornady does most it's business through distributors so unless they jump onboard, it's probably moot. It may not be much of an impact anyway as Hornady is not known for making cheap (or inexpensive) practice ammo. Winchester and Speer has that locked down. The SWAT / tactical response teams might notice, I suppose. I believe that they purchase direct. The government bypasses the distributor network. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74775434 United States05/03/2018 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud the decision based on principle. The problem is that the taxpayers are the ones who will be screwed because of this. Smaller supply drives higher prices. Even if they ALL refused to sell ammo to govt/fed/etc at least one opportunist (or greedy bastard depending on your viewpoint) would sell them what they wanted at much higher prices. These would be passed along to all of us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74775434 Don't make a stand because it may cost you a few bucks? No, I will gladly pay more in taxes and go out of my way to buy Hornady products even if it costs more. Aside from pissing off a few purchasing agents at various state, local, and fed agencies, their decision won't really do much. Those agencies will either buy another brand, or find another way to get it from Hornady. It is more symbolic than anything, and I still support it. |
| Wondering Mind User ID: 73265267 United States05/03/2018 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bet that place will go to hell in hand basket when it becomes the same as London and Sweden. They will wish they did have ammo, when it is too late. Look at how well that UN has served the peace in Sweden and London? How well they have kept that security and those people they are there for? Not such a tame world we live in and much worse when we pour the wild from outside into it and fill the whole place with it. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75747100 United States05/03/2018 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Hornady ammo, it's my daily carry, and my favorite deer round in my .32 Win Spl. Not going to cost me another cent, it's on the idiots who refuse to remove the jackasses from NY state government. I only live a few miles from NY, never spend a dime there, don't go there unless it's absolutely unavoidable (maybe once a year). |
