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Eruption Happening NOW Big Island Hawaii - Massive Flooding Ongoing From Lane

 
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It's about an hour in, but they are USGS is talking some technical stuff and answering questions. I just heard one about the water table.

Volcano Community Meeting - HVO USGS - Civil Defense - Volcano Cooper Center

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What came first, the 'earthquake' or the collapse?

No definitive answer.

Keep your eyes on the USGS guy's - if they ship out...
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I have only listened to the last bit, but they certainly seemed to talk around some of the questions rather than answer them. There was also nervous "we just don't know" laughter.
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Wells drilled on Kilauea hit water at about 2000 ft above sea level or less. Water mixing mixing with lava could be happening at a much higher elevation than sea level. Check the depths of a lot of the earthquakes and I think you might find a correspondence. This would also indicate that the lava would not have to have drained to sea level to be encounters water that could produce or be producing small earth quakes and that the lava could be maintained at a much higher level than sea level for water intrusion into the magma chamber.

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There's a few other interesting tit-bits in that report about lack of permeability vertically (less than 10-100 times that horizontally), higher water pressures at "Well KS-8, near HGP-A in LERZ..." (not sure where??) and one for breezy...

"A possible explanation for the high fluid pressures is that the well encounters a fracture zone containing high-pressure steam derived from a deeper, boiling horizon."

HeLL I'm BURnT ON involved with PGV and DWH...?
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How are the locals doing? Do they report larger temblors?
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gotcha forgot my manners TYVM

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Just noticed an interesting one, showing u0 on the Ionika Flow [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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I agree REM, this is looking like a long night. How long until Rose's next prediction?
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For those of you that don't do Facebook, here's a version of the lava boat.



Also a twitter link

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6/28/18 Lava eruption Live Update Ikaika Marzo & Philip Ong

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"#LeilaniEstatesEruption #KilaueaVolcano UPDATE (June 28 at 8:30 PM): Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park has now been closed for 49 days. Ongoing earthquakes and nearly daily collapse explosions are just a few of the hazards that keep this area shutdown to the public. “It doesn’t look like we have an end anywhere in sight. Although we hope nothing lasts forever and we can reopen in the near future,” said Jessica Ferracane, spokesperson for the Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. A layer of ash covers the otherwise deserted Halemaʻumaʻu Overlook parking lot, which would typically be packed with cars and visitors. Inside, Jaggar Museum itself is also empty — after park officials cleared out the artwork and relocated it to a more secure place. From our vantage point at Waldron Ledge, you can clearly see the significant changes to Halemaʻumaʻu Crater, which USGS HVO geologists estimate has doubled in size from rim to rim over the last two months and dropped at least 1,000 feet. “This is a profound sequence of events here at Kīlauea — unprecedented really in modern times,” described Tina Neal, USGS Hawaiian Volcano Observatory Scientist-in-Charge. Scientists say the the amount of change that has taken place at Halemaʻumaʻu is staggering. The crater’s volume has been increasing at a rate of more than 10 million cubic meters every day. “Even after only one week has passed, the scale of change is really breathtaking. We’re used to looking at changes on the order of centimeters over years. Here, the scale of change is tens of feet per day in some cases,” said Kyle Anderson, a USGS research geophysicist. Halemaʻumaʻu Crater used to have the largest lava lake on the planet. Over the last two months it has drained away, fueling the ongoing eruption in the lower East Rift Zone. While scientists believe the magma that supplies Kīlauea rises from the mantle in a seemingly unlimited supply to Halemaʻumaʻu — they say what’s happening right now is the summit reservoir is depleting faster than it can fill. “Explosive eruptions at the summit and this really enormous enlargement of the Crater it’s really tremendous. We knew that they could happen, but I don’t think most of us thought that they would happen in our lifetimes,” said Anderson. Scientists say while there has been profound loss, there has also been an unprecedented opportunity for a better understanding of volcanoes — including how to potentially predict future eruption events..."

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This isn't going to stop any time soon.

Latest video from the tour boat company. Always impressive.

These guys must be making a killing. I hope they are donating a chunk of their profits to those who really need the money.

6/28/18 5PM SEELAVA.COM
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Only been awake a few minutes & it looks like Madame Pele might be jus waking up as well [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Bit more activity, about 15 minutes ago [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Bit more activity, about 15 minutes ago [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Now listed having 2 3.8 equivalent events in that group.
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bump
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Bit more activity, about 15 minutes ago [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Now listed having 2 3.8 equivalent events in that group.
 Quoting: REMJR1


The first one looked even larger to me & now we're back to seeing those long thin lines again, as well as the jagged signal on the first of the two bottom monitors, which they cleaned up while I was typing this & before I got another screenshot, grrr....
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A nice thing about the youtube sites that are monitoring you can rewind back a few hours.

I hope someone posts a before and after picture of the PGV cam. It was so beautufull with farms, now a spewing volcano with lava river, everything burnt down and the plants dead........, in such a short time.
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We did not get enough sleep REM, LOL rem sleep, you were still up late last night when I was and we are the first ones up. The new baby chicks wake me up early and need special care. I will be so glad when the cold snap is over and I can move them to the barn.
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This isn't going to stop any time soon.

Latest video from the tour boat company. Always impressive.

These guys must be making a killing. I hope they are donating a chunk of their profits to those who really need the money.

6/28/18 5PM SEELAVA.COM
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burnit
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


Thank you for these reports How many times they say profound...then mantle plume. That says it all.
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We did not get enough sleep REM, LOL rem sleep, you were still up late last night when I was and we are the first ones up. The new baby chicks wake me up early and need special care. I will be so glad when the cold snap is over and I can move them to the barn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73100261


Almost 4 hours of sleep but I'm an odd one(thank you Captain Obvious). I'm hyper sensitive to the changing energies, both of a terrestrial(thunderstorms) & non terrestrial(coronal hole streams, solar storms, gamma ray bursts, etc.), full moon, moderate & stronger planetary conjunctions & I've always had issues with getting much sleep right around the full moon. I should be back to my usual 5-5 1/2 in no time ;-)
As for REM sleep.... I regularly start dreaming within minutes of going to sleep, sometimes it seems like before I'm actually even asleep.
As for your newborn chicks.... very cool, even though it's affecting your sleep & at least it's a short term, soon to be resolved, issue & for a good cause.

Sorry for the lengthy, clearly off topic post.
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Unprecedented. Staggering. Profound. That's how scientists describe the last 2 months at Kilauea's summit

Unknown is more like it

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Thank you, AC.
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Unprecedented. Staggering. Profound. That's how scientists describe the last 2 months at Kilauea's summit

Unknown is more like it

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Thank you, AC.
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This has to be the longest running pinned thread since the stupid bayou cornholio incident.

And for what?
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LOL Rem, ditto, I am old too and can not sleep during the full moon.
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Has anyone from the Big Island given an indication of what comes next for the people who live there? Has this come out at the community meetings?

It's heading into the eighth week now. I've read that 80 per cent of the papaya trees have been destroyed by the lava, taking those jobs with them. The farms were mainly in Puna and Kapoho.

I started reading about Washington communities after Mount St. Helen's. A big challenge in the aftermath was the water supply. The initial chemical changes were only part of the problem. The abrasive nature of the particulates in the water damaged municipal pipes and plumbing in homes. Communities that used river wster had to switch to aquifer supplies, and challenges are ongoing to this day.

What is the plan for the people of the Big Island who have lost their land, homes and jobs, and will never be able to return to the lives they had before? How safe is it to relocate elsewhere on the island right now? Temporsry housing is one thing. Long-term planning is another. "Profound" changes to the phydical landscape seem life-altering.

In previous disasters of various kinds elsewhere, migration is the end result. This is very difficult, but reality.
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This has to be the longest running pinned thread since the stupid bayou cornholio incident.

And for what?
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Run along now, ignoranus. You took a wrong turn somewhere.
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Another snapshot [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Another snapshot [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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I'm thinking that the larger event looks like a 3.4-3.6 equivalent event.
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The rest of the 48 are having a heat wave but in the NW I am having a cold wave. Forecast for Monday high of 69 and 40 low. I am still using fire wood and the heaters. I usually have a hard time keeping the house cool this time of the year with the air conditioner going full blast.

March it was so hot I had to turn on the air conditioner and the sudden heat killed my young plants.
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Another snapshot [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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I'm thinking that the larger event looks like a 3.4-3.6 equivalent event.
 Quoting: REMJR1


They now list it as a 3.6 equivalent event.
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Another snapshot [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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I'm thinking that the larger event looks like a 3.4-3.6 equivalent event.
 Quoting: REMJR1


yep

Magnitude Ml 3.6
Region ISLAND OF HAWAII, HAWAII
Date time 2018-06-29 14:16:26.5 UTC
Location 19.41 N ; 155.29 W
Depth 1 km

morning REM...
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The rest of the 48 are having a heat wave but in the NW I am having a cold wave. Forecast for Monday high of 69 and 40 low. I am still using fire wood and the heaters. I usually have a hard time keeping the house cool this time of the year with the air conditioner going full blast.

March it was so hot I had to turn on the air conditioner and the sudden heat killed my young plants.
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Ouch! Where are you located, roughly? I was born in the Portland area & grew up south of Seattle.
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