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Sandy Hook paramedic: "Many victims had no apparent fatal injuries." | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74797622 United States05/18/2018 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Reed, one of the paramedics brought in to determine death, said in his own report that many injuries did not appear to be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49143694 " ...there were a substantial amount of casualties and they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...Reed stated they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries ...they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." (00002358) Read that very carefully, and then read it again. Reed assessed all the victims who had no apparent fatal injuries, and it took a long time because a substantial amount of victims had no apparent fatal injuries. The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality, that they re-assessed all or the majority with the cardiac machine in order to be able to justify a determination of death. Reed's conclusion is supported by Dr. William Billups of Anderson & Rush, who stated, "A lot of these children's injuries were not immediately lethal." [link to www.meridianstar.com] "The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality" That statement is not part of Reed's statement in the report. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76572576 United States05/18/2018 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In other words, the cadavers were dead before the 'event' and they were sprayed wildly with bullets. Most bullets hit the cadavers outside the kill box yet, they were still dead. The bodies came from Eastern Europe and they were staged. The 'victims' sang in the super bowl a year later, I can confirm. Bloomberg ran the op with mossad and the FBLie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58931283 United States05/18/2018 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Reed, one of the paramedics brought in to determine death, said in his own report that many injuries did not appear to be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49143694 " ...there were a substantial amount of casualties and they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...Reed stated they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries ...they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." (00002358) Read that very carefully, and then read it again. Reed assessed all the victims who had no apparent fatal injuries, and it took a long time because a substantial amount of victims had no apparent fatal injuries. The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality, that they re-assessed all or the majority with the cardiac machine in order to be able to justify a determination of death. Reed's conclusion is supported by Dr. William Billups of Anderson & Rush, who stated, "A lot of these children's injuries were not immediately lethal." [link to www.meridianstar.com] "The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality" That statement is not part of Reed's statement in the report. That's why it's not in quotes. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76331162 United States05/18/2018 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In other words, the cadavers were dead before the 'event' and they were sprayed wildly with bullets. Most bullets hit the cadavers outside the kill box yet, they were still dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76572576 The bodies came from Eastern Europe and they were staged. The 'victims' sang in the super bowl a year later, I can confirm. Bloomberg ran the op with mossad and the FBLie Interesting theory, but why would they have them sing? Just to gloat, or is there another reason? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58931283 United States05/18/2018 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The point is that he said the wounds were inconsistent with fatality, and so inconsistent, in fact, that those without head wounds--all or all but one--we reassessed. Those of you whose job it has been to cover this simple, glaring fact up, have had five years and counting. Time for the central fact of the case to finally see daylight: nearly every victim bled to death from survivable wounds. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74797622 United States05/18/2018 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The point is that he said the wounds were inconsistent with fatality, and so inconsistent, in fact, that those without head wounds--all or all but one--we reassessed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58931283 Those of you whose job it has been to cover this simple, glaring fact up, have had five years and counting. Time for the central fact of the case to finally see daylight: nearly every victim bled to death from survivable wounds. But he did not say "the wounds were inconsistent with fatality" This is what it says: "Reed stated that Cassavechia had spoken to the Emergency medical Control Pysician D. Pat Broderick and they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable wounds would be checked with a cardiac machine. Reed stated that they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." Reed said nothing about 'inconsistent with fatality". |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58931283 United States05/18/2018 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reed clarifies that the order to reassess with the cardiac machine came after Cassavechia had spoken to Emergency Medical Control Physician D. Pat Broderick. This means that upon being given a description of the victim's wounds, Broderick would not let his medics make a determination of death based on their first assessments. This means that the wounds were so inconsistent with fatality, that even professional medics, who had assessed multiple times, could not risk (for themselves or their hospital) making a determination of death without doing a fourth assessment on every one of those patients using the cardio. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58931283 United States05/18/2018 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that sounds like a shill trying to confuse and muddy the truth. Quoting: Sterling Malory Archer how could there be "no apparent fatal injuries" when it was clearly a drill, when no one was shot? lol, someone gave me red karma for this? ... "Shut the fuck up punkass bitch" I'm beyond imagining I have allies, but live in hope. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58931283 United States05/18/2018 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again, Reed: "...they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries." According to Billups, that was most of the victims. How many are we talking, then? Who, specifically, did not have apparent fatal injuries? It was more than one, more than two...but what if it had been only one?? If only one child could have lived, but died due to failure to declare an MCI, that is as significant as it needs to get. We all know it was more than one--but one is enough. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74797622 United States05/18/2018 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again, Reed: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58931283 "...they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries." According to Billups, that was most of the victims. How many are we talking, then? Who, specifically, did not have apparent fatal injuries? It was more than one, more than two...but what if it had been only one?? If only one child could have lived, but died due to failure to declare an MCI, that is as significant as it needs to get. We all know it was more than one--but one is enough. Was Billups there on scene? Unless he was there, he has no idea what the condition of the victims were. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41087222 United States05/18/2018 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Reed, one of the paramedics brought in to determine death, said in his own report that many injuries did not appear to be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49143694 " ...there were a substantial amount of casualties and they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...Reed stated they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries ...they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." (00002358) Read that very carefully, and then read it again. Reed assessed all the victims who had no apparent fatal injuries, and it took a long time because a substantial amount of victims had no apparent fatal injuries. The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality, that they re-assessed all or the majority with the cardiac machine in order to be able to justify a determination of death. Reed's conclusion is supported by Dr. William Billups of Anderson & Rush, who stated, "A lot of these children's injuries were not immediately lethal." [link to www.meridianstar.com] "The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality" That statement is not part of Reed's statement in the report. doesn't make a whole lot of sense were they alive or what |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74797622 United States05/18/2018 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Reed, one of the paramedics brought in to determine death, said in his own report that many injuries did not appear to be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49143694 " ...there were a substantial amount of casualties and they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...Reed stated they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries ...they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." (00002358) Read that very carefully, and then read it again. Reed assessed all the victims who had no apparent fatal injuries, and it took a long time because a substantial amount of victims had no apparent fatal injuries. The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality, that they re-assessed all or the majority with the cardiac machine in order to be able to justify a determination of death. Reed's conclusion is supported by Dr. William Billups of Anderson & Rush, who stated, "A lot of these children's injuries were not immediately lethal." [link to www.meridianstar.com] "The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality" That statement is not part of Reed's statement in the report. doesn't make a whole lot of sense were they alive or what What doesn't make any sense is the OP attributing things to Reed, that Reed did not say and going by the words of a Dr Billups who has zero connection to Sandy Hook. Two children were removed, who later died and two adults were injured. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76467549 United States05/18/2018 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again, Reed: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58931283 "...they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries." According to Billups, that was most of the victims. How many are we talking, then? Who, specifically, did not have apparent fatal injuries? It was more than one, more than two...but what if it had been only one?? If only one child could have lived, but died due to failure to declare an MCI, that is as significant as it needs to get. We all know it was more than one--but one is enough. Was Billups there on scene? Unless he was there, he has no idea what the condition of the victims were. He does, in fact. His colleagues shared the autopsy reports with him. Jacobs wasn't on scene either, but he reviewed the autopsies and realized immediately that most children died unnecessarily. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76467549 United States05/18/2018 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What doesn't make any sense is the OP attributing things to Reed, that Reed did not say and going by the words of a Dr Billups who has zero connection to Sandy Hook. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74797622 Two children were removed, who later died and two adults were injured. Far more than two children were removed. There were four patients from Newtown in the Danbury ER by 10:25 a.m., according to the Danbury Hospital security chief who was standing there counting them and called it in. File name: StartTime 2012-12-14 15-25-12 Logger 45170321 Channel 1 Radi Danbury security chief: "We're at Danbury Hospital, the emergency room..." CSP Dispatcher: "OK, do you have any victims that are there?" Chief: "Yes, we have four victims that already came in from Newtown." His statement is backed up by EMT Krista Halstead: Krista Halstead says she was dispatched at approximately 10:15 a.m. (in reality the call went out at 10:04 a.m.) and received a ride from a fellow emergency services worker, and that within 20 minutes of their arrival four patients had been transported. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76280681 United States05/18/2018 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how many injured kids survived? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3550760 For some reason I can't remember any ^ Exactly this. 0 injured/20 deceased was never a believable statistic. exactly this. The whole episode stunk from creepy gene to the medical examiner and everything in between. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| teslawasriteuno User ID: 76370250 United States05/18/2018 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how many injured kids survived? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3550760 For some reason I can't remember any ^ Exactly this. 0 injured/20 deceased was never a believable statistic. This is correct. It is statistically nearly impossible for 20 dead and 0 injured unless, of coarse, you couldn't have "survivors" that reporters would want to interview at some point. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76559993  United Arab Emirates05/18/2018 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact this came on Greg Abbott's 1214th day in office is hilarious. Again, Sandy Hook happened on 12/14, December 14. And the majority of the students shot at Stoneman Douglas were in room 1214, which was Holocaust Remembrance class. As for the shoter's name... Dimitrios Pagourtzis... It reminds of the player for the New York Knicks... Also, his initials, D.P. D = 4 P = 16 = 7 D.P. = 4.7. Policeman = 47; Cop = 47; Authority = 47; Government = 47; D.C. = 47; News = 47 47-Degrees on the compasses in the Freemason logo... 106 = Authority 119 = All Seeing Eye; Fraternal Order of Police = 119 Other numbers pop too. Death = 118 Dmitrios = 53 Pagourtzis = 53 *Shooting = 53 Thread: FEDERAL AGENDA EXPOSED: Texas Santa Fe High Schol shooting in Texas is freemasonic tribute to Govenor Greg Abbott - Numerology & Numbers NOW! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76467549 United States05/18/2018 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A separate report for that vehicle's decontamination states that it was used to transport two children. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76488686  Portugal05/18/2018 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Reed, one of the paramedics brought in to determine death, said in his own report that many injuries did not appear to be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49143694 " ...there were a substantial amount of casualties and they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...Reed stated they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries ...they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." (00002358) Read that very carefully, and then read it again. Reed assessed all the victims who had no apparent fatal injuries, and it took a long time because a substantial amount of victims had no apparent fatal injuries. The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality, that they re-assessed all or the majority with the cardiac machine in order to be able to justify a determination of death. Reed's conclusion is supported by Dr. William Billups of Anderson & Rush, who stated, "A lot of these children's injuries were not immediately lethal." [link to www.meridianstar.com] they brought in paramedics "to determine death"  FUCK OFF |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76467549 United States05/18/2018 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how many injured kids survived? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3550760 For some reason I can't remember any ^ Exactly this. 0 injured/20 deceased was never a believable statistic. exactly this. The whole episode stunk from creepy gene to the medical examiner and everything in between. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The medical examiner knew damn well what happened, and that is why he gave a sarcastic interview. Wayne Carver is the individual who personally phoned Dr. Lenworth Jacobs at Hartford Hospital and told him the majority of the children had survivable wounds. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76280681 United States05/18/2018 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how many injured kids survived? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3550760 For some reason I can't remember any ^ Exactly this. 0 injured/20 deceased was never a believable statistic. exactly this. The whole episode stunk from creepy gene to the medical examiner and everything in between. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The medical examiner knew damn well what happened, and that is why he gave a sarcastic interview. Wayne Carver is the individual who personally phoned Dr. Lenworth Jacobs at Hartford Hospital and told him the majority of the children had survivable wounds. But, but, but they had "this amazing thing!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76467549 United States05/18/2018 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reed says his team "...spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries..." (00002358) How many victims? If only one child could have lived... But we all know it was far more than only one. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74797622 United States05/18/2018 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Reed, one of the paramedics brought in to determine death, said in his own report that many injuries did not appear to be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49143694 " ...there were a substantial amount of casualties and they spent a significant amount of time assessing the victims...Reed stated they assessed all the victims that did not have apparent fatal injuries ...they decided that all victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine." (00002358) Read that very carefully, and then read it again. Reed assessed all the victims who had no apparent fatal injuries, and it took a long time because a substantial amount of victims had no apparent fatal injuries. The injuries were so inconsistent with fatality, that they re-assessed all or the majority with the cardiac machine in order to be able to justify a determination of death. Reed's conclusion is supported by Dr. William Billups of Anderson & Rush, who stated, "A lot of these children's injuries were not immediately lethal." [link to www.meridianstar.com] they brought in paramedics "to determine death" FUCK OFF Paramedics with heart monitors, which were connected to doctors at Danbury hospital. |
