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QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS!..and give this one some SERIOUS thought. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 209204  Australia05/09/2007 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234449 United States05/09/2007 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My short, quick answer is that man cannot understand what God understands. We can't know what he knows, can think like he thinks, can't apply our logic to His. To try and do so is pointless. He allows us to comprehend what we need to comprehend. That is plenty good enough for me. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 209204 Australia05/09/2007 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a question for you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234364how long have you been a satanist? you talk just like them and they wrote a book as well did you parrot from their books? So you think I am a scumbag satanist jusy because I thre this question out? Its a serious question...one which it seems you are far to ignorant to even TRY to answer. Can you answer it? Or are you just going to brush it aside because you may have to actually THINK...instead of just blurt out the same old crap you have swallowed from the churches from day dot? Have you ever stopped to THGINK about the "Doctrine" of eternal torture foisted on us by a LOVING GOD? If God is love WHICH HE IS...etrnal death must mean being DEAD FOREVER...NOT TORTURE FOREVER...big difference. go on..answer it. I am NOT Satanist..I believe in God...and Jesus...im just going through a questioning phase and would like some other opinions. And dont jump on me cause I swore a bit..I bet YOU do EVERY DAY...dont be a hypposrite and make out YOU are sinless. Im just asking a question in frustration..and Im actually THINKING about what we have been taught. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234449 United States05/09/2007 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a question for you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234364how long have you been a satanist? you talk just like them and they wrote a book as well did you parrot from their books? I agree. It seems the OP isn't really seeking an answer, just trying to stir crap up. SSDD |
Country  User ID: 234458  Sweden05/09/2007 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: Here is the answer I gave you in the other thread: Honey, where on earth did you get that information? Almost every thing you said is false. To answer your question - First off, the 'burning hell' you speak of has not been created yet. Secondly, it is eternal death of the soul. There will be NO torture. It will be swift and merciful. And only the evil ones will be punished. It will be over and done with and we will remember them no more. Third, there is a time coming, - it is called the '1000 year reign' - and that Mum you mentioned, if she truly did not get the chance to 'know' Jesus, will be given the opportunity to do so then. Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Here in America - in GOD we still trust... Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet! Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 209204 Australia05/09/2007 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a question for you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234449how long have you been a satanist? you talk just like them and they wrote a book as well did you parrot from their books? I agree. It seems the OP isn't really seeking an answer, just trying to stir crap up. SSDD Tell me..do you EVER get tired of being so self righteous? I AM asking a serious question because the TRUE answer MUST be SERIOUS.. But all ya want to do is brush it aside...why?...scared of thinking? |
| F.R.O.G. User ID: 112322 United States05/09/2007 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God loves us so much that He allows us free will so we could choose to love Him, not just be made to love Him like robots. Those who do not choose God, but rather choose to live for themselves are free to do so, but that means they will be eternally separated from God...by their own choice. That's why God so loved the world (you and me) that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosover believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. God doesn't want you to be in Hell, but He won't make you love him...you must choose. I pray that you would give God's Word a chance and read it with an open heart and release your anger. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234449 United States05/09/2007 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's like a child who doesn't understand why a parent is telling him to do something. The parent will just say, "because I said so", you don't need to understand why, you are too young. The bottom line is that the parent loves the child, and if the child does as he/she is told, everything will be just fine. There are just some things we aren't capable of understanding while trapped in these bodies. Question everything pertaining to man, but don't question God, your parent. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 209204 Australia05/09/2007 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: Quoting: CountryHere is the answer I gave you in the other thread: Honey, where on earth did you get that information? Almost every thing you said is false. To answer your question - First off, the 'burning hell' you speak of has not been created yet. Secondly, it is eternal death of the soul. There will be NO torture. It will be swift and merciful. And only the evil ones will be punished. It will be over and done with and we will remember them no more. Third, there is a time coming, - it is called the '1000 year reign' - and that Mum you mentioned, if she truly did not get the chance to 'know' Jesus, will be given the opportunity to do so then. I got the information from CHURCH...since childhood. Not the catholic church..the pentecostal ones. Taught about the burning of hell..how every sould who does NOT know Jesus will be tortured forever. What about all those so called "Visions" of eternal hell..you know..the "23 minutes in Hell" stuff..and that baxter lady...they CANT be right..only Satan would do this..and only if Satan took the throne somehow and became God. I accepted it for years..but since seeing the videos and reading about these visions..I though" Hang on a minute..torture is EVIL..God is NOT evil..only Satan is pure evil..and ONLY PURE EVIL would sanction the TORTURE of sentient beings forever. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234449 United States05/09/2007 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a question for you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209204how long have you been a satanist? you talk just like them and they wrote a book as well did you parrot from their books? I agree. It seems the OP isn't really seeking an answer, just trying to stir crap up. SSDD Tell me..do you EVER get tired of being so self righteous? I AM asking a serious question because the TRUE answer MUST be SERIOUS.. But all ya want to do is brush it aside...why?...scared of thinking? No, I honestly tried to answer you in other posts in this thread, did my very best. I think it was your turd comment that made me think you weren't being very serious, but I did give you serious answers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 233306 United States05/09/2007 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 209204 Australia05/09/2007 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a question for you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234449how long have you been a satanist? you talk just like them and they wrote a book as well did you parrot from their books? I agree. It seems the OP isn't really seeking an answer, just trying to stir crap up. SSDD Tell me..do you EVER get tired of being so self righteous? I AM asking a serious question because the TRUE answer MUST be SERIOUS.. But all ya want to do is brush it aside...why?...scared of thinking? No, I honestly tried to answer you in other posts in this thread, did my very best. I think it was your turd comment that made me think you weren't being very serious, but I did give you serious answers. I didnt see that other answer..I was writing something else at the time. You answerd it in the timeframe I was writing in so I missed it. I apologise for the misunderstanding. But...I am NOT "Stirring crap"..I am really REALLY seeking the answer to this one...SERIOUSLY seeking..THUIS the frustration. Hope you can understand. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 150370 United States05/09/2007 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - the hell you describe is not biblical and does not now, nor ever will exist. The only hell that will ever exist is the final, cleansing lake of fire when all sin is destroyed forever. It will have a finite period of existence and then the earth will be created anew. If such a place as you depict in your post existed, I would not be able to love such a tyrant either. Clio |
| Country User ID: 234458 Sweden05/09/2007 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209204Here is the answer I gave you in the other thread: Honey, where on earth did you get that information? Almost every thing you said is false. To answer your question - First off, the 'burning hell' you speak of has not been created yet. Secondly, it is eternal death of the soul. There will be NO torture. It will be swift and merciful. And only the evil ones will be punished. It will be over and done with and we will remember them no more. Third, there is a time coming, - it is called the '1000 year reign' - and that Mum you mentioned, if she truly did not get the chance to 'know' Jesus, will be given the opportunity to do so then. I got the information from CHURCH...since childhood. Not the catholic church..the pentecostal ones. Taught about the burning of hell..how every sould who does NOT know Jesus will be tortured forever. What about all those so called "Visions" of eternal hell..you know..the "23 minutes in Hell" stuff..and that baxter lady...they CANT be right..only Satan would do this..and only if Satan took the throne somehow and became God. I accepted it for years..but since seeing the videos and reading about these visions..I though" Hang on a minute..torture is EVIL..God is NOT evil..only Satan is pure evil..and ONLY PURE EVIL would sanction the TORTURE of sentient beings forever. I am sorry that the churches you attended gave you so much false information. But that is what it is - False. Just because someone tells you they had a 'vision' does not make it true. Once you learn what God's word really says, you can then discern when these false prophets start to speak. There is NO eternal torture, but there is eternal death. Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Here in America - in GOD we still trust... Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet! Be Still! - And know that He is God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 160058 United States05/09/2007 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC, start a new thread, showing RESPECT to those you are asking these questions to. At this time, you don't deserve the answers you have already received. Even Jesus brushed the dirt off his sandals, and left the non believers due to their disbelief. No offense, but Christians weren't created to be door mats....get it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 232411 United States05/09/2007 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and second, if God never made creation, how would he know how it would turn out? He couldn't predict what would happen unless he went ahead an created it all. Even though he knew before hand, God had to create everything to know 1/3 of his creation would rebel against him. You can't know something that never existed, even God can't do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 224274 United States05/10/2007 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God did not create hell for man, He created it for Lucifer and the angels that rebelled with him. However, because man fell from grace and now sins, we cannot be with God unless we are brought back to grace through Jesus Christ. God is love and if you know God, you know this truty. Read the new testament and focus on the Good news of Jesus Christ, not the satanic hell. You want to ask humans why God did something? Does that make sense to you? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234483 United States05/10/2007 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC, start a new thread, showing RESPECT to those you are asking these questions to. At this time, you don't deserve the answers you have already received. Even Jesus brushed the dirt off his sandals, and left the non believers due to their disbelief. No offense, but Christians weren't created to be door mats....get it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160058As someone else said, the OP is asking mere humans what is on the mind of God. And I agree, if the OP wanted honest answers perhaps he/she should have asked in a more rational way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 233748 United States05/10/2007 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "the last shall be first, and the first last." keep looking beyond what a preacher in a particular congregation tells ya. ask the Lord of the scriptures, and look at it for yourself. read the gospels. Jesus is the final interpretur, he talks about A LOT of pertinent issues for you and me personally.. there's a lot there. "the last shall be first, and the first last." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234284 United States05/10/2007 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians are going to get a big surprise IMO in heaven, there will be many there they did not expect to see. I agree, what kind of God would enjoy keeping a collection of souls in torment forever and ever? I believe some souls are merely sleeping, do sleeping souls dream? Just a thought. Hell and death will be destroyed. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234499 United States05/10/2007 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you know how many people are going to hell to make such an assumption? (its not as many as you think) Some are deceived,,,and miss out of the best of heaven,,but will not see hell. Some,,,have never faced Christ before,,,and will face a different judgement Hell is reserved only for the ones who consciously made the call to tell God to fuck himself in someway. Is that you? |
| Taz User ID: 233541 United States05/10/2007 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The god you describe is one of the biblical gods. None of them are the Primary Creator/Source of all Creation, etc., etc., These gods are imposters. Don't believe a single word claimed by any of them. They created the many religions to control the masses. Toss their shit in the garbage and look within for your answers. God is creation/nature. End of story. [/quote Spot on! OP, I recommend the 'Conversations With God' series for you. It should iron out any major questions you have about 'God'. Best of luck! Taz |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230906 United States05/10/2007 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey OP, the answers to your questions are in the cosmogeny that God has taught me and is shared on my forum, as well as posted HERE on GLP originally last year and this year. many, many of your suppositions about God are wrong. If you read the cosmogeny on my forum you will get the understandings you need to answer your questions and complaints. Me114 [link to heartdaughter.com] here are some threads to get you started [link to heartdaughter.com] [link to heartdaughter.com] |
