For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them

Israel, not here

valley of decision


northern israel

Yep...upon them

that is how it always happens

and the world is always filled with fools who do not understand it and go on marrying and giving in marriage

The fallen angels run the world governments and this is all a charade.

THoughts -- mmm. Oldy words shall falleth away leaving rightous txt speak in new bible heads

That doesnt apply to me.

There are wars still going on in the world OP look at the middle east so epic fail right now

The passage you're referencing involves judgement of each individual.

Go to the chapter before, and see the context. It actually looks like it's more of a statement about hateful liberals.


1 Thessalonians 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
1 Thessalonians 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
1 Thessalonians 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Next Chapter:

1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
1 Thessalonians 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Thessalonians 5:13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
1 Thessalonians 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
1 Thessalonians 5:16 Rejoice evermore.
1 Thessalonians 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1 Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
1 Thessalonians 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
1 Thessalonians 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

This could be it. Not the first time that we've had rumblings of peace and security. I remember Carter and Begin and Sedat thinking this was it. But to have Trump do this? Oh yeah, this has gotta be it.

I told my husband today that if Trump makes peace in the ME, I'm building a bunker!

I think of that scripture all the time now.

well, we have something of a "peace" agreement with NK. Trump is supposedly going to unveil his very secretive "Middle East Peace plan" at the end of the month.

and then there is Iran which will have to be dealt with and it looks like if we cannot come to some type of agreement/peace deal with them it will be war.

Lots of interesting things happening

Seattle Head Tax could be subliminal for Seattle Attack on Flag Day Trumps birthday and world Blood Donor day..