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Kratom to be banned today without your help! | |
| JimmyBones Offer Upgrade  User ID: 76105381  United States06/12/2018 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76105381 United States06/12/2018 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very big deal folks! They snuck this in literally the day before to avoid any backlash from the kratom community In essence, DEA (working with FDA) could schedule kratom on the claim that it is an opioid analogue (a claim publicly made by FDA Commissioner Gottlieb on Nov. 14, 2017). SITSA does not require any justification from NIDA or HHS on the science, and the AG has complete discretion. Add to that, if SITSA passes and the AG decides to ban Kratom using SITSA, we have no recourse for 5 years. Zero recourse... Once it is scheduled "temporarily" under SITSA for 5 years, the AG can unilaterally continue it -- there is no judicial review permitted. The only claim would have to be on Constitutional grounds, and that is a very expensive and lengthy process with a very uncertain outcome. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75666007 United States06/12/2018 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying |
| JimmyBones (OP) User ID: 76105381 United States06/12/2018 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's already banned in these states: Quoting: MissCleo ALABAMA ARKANSAS CALIFORNIA-SanDiego FLORIDA-Sarasota County ILLINOIS-Jerseyville INDIANA TENESSEE WISCONSIN COLORADO-Denver VERMONT RHODE ISLAND is this bill for all 50 States? Yes. A federal ban. The ban in Tennessee has been overturned and anyone over the age of 21 can now purchase and consume Kratom. |
| JimmyBones (OP) User ID: 76105381 United States06/12/2018 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72267068 United States06/12/2018 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. |
| Layers of Reality User ID: 75758325 United States06/12/2018 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THANK you for sharing. I emailed my rep! passing a bill to ban kratom is intentional murder by proxy. if your representatives daughter was in dire need of pain relief, would your rep simply just let her die??? Or would he want his daughter to have access to a healthy form of pain management that DOESN'T involve the risk of death? Exactly. |
| Layers of Reality User ID: 75758325 United States06/12/2018 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. my best friend is ONLY alive today because of kratom. Kratom single handedly helped my friend get off heroine and he's now an active member of society bringing value to peoples lives all the time. only thanks to kratom. |
| Layers of Reality User ID: 75758325 United States06/12/2018 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76228071 United States06/12/2018 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75448932  Moldova06/12/2018 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. my best friend is ONLY alive today because of kratom. Kratom single handedly helped my friend get off heroine and he's now an active member of society bringing value to peoples lives all the time. only thanks to kratom. Wow, almost the same story for my best friend too. She was a crack addicted hooker that used to do a lot of anal, now she only sucks cocks! what a difference it made in her life! It's nice when sons are chums with their mums. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76670263 United States06/12/2018 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. ^ This .. I think kratom is best for fibro and any other nerve pain. I've taken it twice a day for 9 months, same dosage, no desire to use more than I need. No fibro pain since. They just never stop, can't have people surviving and not taking big pharma poisons. Surprised I didn't get an email from AKA on this. |
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| Source User ID: 69728961 United States06/12/2018 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Banning it seems silly. It's really crappy. If some people have convinced themselves it's great stuff, I'd say leave it. It's truly shit stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76368173 Speak for yourself. It could be that it doesn't work that well on you, or that you didn't get a good supplier but Kratom is a miracle worker for many, many people I know personally. It's much better than pharm opiates. Can't kill yourself with it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43943619 United States06/12/2018 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 depending on the type you get, and also keep in mind everyone reacts differently to different substances, but the feeling can be like a mix between vicodon and yerba matte. some types are on the more yerba matte side and others more towards the vicodon side, some are in between. |
| Beyond Perceptions User ID: 75793003 United States06/12/2018 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267068 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. my best friend is ONLY alive today because of kratom. Kratom single handedly helped my friend get off heroine and he's now an active member of society bringing value to peoples lives all the time. only thanks to kratom. Wow, almost the same story for my best friend too. She was a crack addicted hooker that used to do a lot of anal, now she only sucks cocks! what a difference it made in her life! It's nice when sons are chums with their mums.  "There was one of two things I had a right to, liberty, or death; if I could not have one, I would have the other" -Harriet Tubman |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76408388 United States06/12/2018 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. ^ This .. I think kratom is best for fibro and any other nerve pain. I've taken it twice a day for 9 months, same dosage, no desire to use more than I need. No fibro pain since. They just never stop, can't have people surviving and not taking big pharma poisons. Surprised I didn't get an email from AKA on this. Would you mind telling me the dosage you're taking. I'm in the process of seeing a neurologist. Trying to find out what I have, either MS or fibro. This is the first i've heard of kratom. Thanks. |
| Tangy User ID: 69917668 United States06/12/2018 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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snark Forum Administrator 06/12/2018 12:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's already banned in these states: Quoting: MissCleo ALABAMA ARKANSAS CALIFORNIA-SanDiego FLORIDA-Sarasota County ILLINOIS-Jerseyville INDIANA TENESSEE WISCONSIN COLORADO-Denver VERMONT RHODE ISLAND is this bill for all 50 States? Not illegal in TN. Believe me, we fought our asses off this last session. You have to be 21 and up. PLEASE, everyone, help us keep this safe and effective plant legal. It is SO important. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
| beenthruthat User ID: 76616230 United States06/12/2018 12:05 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's already banned in these states: Quoting: MissCleo ALABAMA ARKANSAS CALIFORNIA-SanDiego FLORIDA-Sarasota County ILLINOIS-Jerseyville INDIANA TENESSEE WISCONSIN COLORADO-Denver VERMONT RHODE ISLAND is this bill for all 50 States? ...wrong Tennessee unbanned it 3 months ago... People don't care how much You know ... till they know how much You care ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76670263 United States06/12/2018 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the living fuck is " kratom " ? I see the signs in stupid little stores everywhere now. Is it a drug , more " medicine " like pot ? Wtf is it ????? Anybody ? No one in my circle knows or uses that shit in my circle. And that makes it VERY VERY SUSPECT to me.....just saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75666007 My wife takes it to help with her pain from fibromyalgia. It helps her a lot. I pray it doesn't get banned... I know someone who uses it to stay of heroin also. ^ This .. I think kratom is best for fibro and any other nerve pain. I've taken it twice a day for 9 months, same dosage, no desire to use more than I need. No fibro pain since. They just never stop, can't have people surviving and not taking big pharma poisons. Surprised I didn't get an email from AKA on this. Would you mind telling me the dosage you're taking. I'm in the process of seeing a neurologist. Trying to find out what I have, either MS or fibro. This is the first i've heard of kratom. Thanks. 2.5 teaspooons, twice per day, stirred into hot water with some sugar. Don't even bother with the stuff in gas stations and head shops. I can't even take Lyrica or Cymbalta, they're ineffective and give bad side effects. Cymbalata made the pain more intense. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76670923 Afghanistan06/12/2018 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good! It's shameful druggies keep trying to make their substances legal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370837 I feel the same way about Alcoholics - the devil's brew. Chocolate, Television, Politics, BodyBuilding, Gardening - Ban them ALL. Pleasure should be denied to these puny mortals! And fast food junkies ARE THE WORST, ban McDonalds, KFC, Pepsi, Coke, Walmart, ALL OF IT! Ban all the things! |
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