Rules for the Right -- requesting feedback, ideas, new rules, etc | |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/20/2018 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Updated... any feedback from the night crew? ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/20/2018 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karma pinning for discussion... I know it's a wall of text right now. If you guys think I should summarize in the OP then post the full text in the 2nd reply, let me know and I'll do that. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars. Well done post. You put effort into it I can see. A strategy for handling the left's evil is smart. I don't have any suggestions to add though at the moment. You summed it up well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76696369 Thanks for the feedback.. If you think of a new rule to add come back to the thread and share it! I appreciate it ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76696369 Canada 06/21/2018 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars. Well done post. You put effort into it I can see. A strategy for handling the left's evil is smart. I don't have any suggestions to add though at the moment. You summed it up well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76696369 Thanks for the feedback.. If you think of a new rule to add come back to the thread and share it! I appreciate it Perhaps.. "Don't fall for the left's fake moral superiority" One of the number one weapons of the left is to appear to take the moral high ground. This feigned moral superiority is nothing more than an excuse to push a political agenda. Know when they are saying they want to fight racism, that means destroy white western society and culture. When they say they want to protect abortion rights. It really means profit off planned parenthood. When it comes to gay rights, they are trying to increase their voting base. Big part of the reason they want to import illegals. They are counting on their votes as well. That's the left's biggest weapon of all. Appearing to be the nice guys. Don't fall for the act. Hope I helped. You can use all or some or none of what I said in the future rules. Keep fighting the good fight |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76696369 Canada 06/21/2018 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars. Well done post. You put effort into it I can see. A strategy for handling the left's evil is smart. I don't have any suggestions to add though at the moment. You summed it up well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76696369 Thanks for the feedback.. If you think of a new rule to add come back to the thread and share it! I appreciate it Perhaps.. "Don't fall for the left's fake moral superiority" One of the number one weapons of the left is to appear to take the moral high ground. This feigned moral superiority is nothing more than an excuse to push a political agenda. Know when they are saying they want to fight racism, that means destroy white western society and culture. When they say they want to protect abortion rights. It really means profit off planned parenthood. When it comes to gay rights, they are trying to increase their voting base. Big part of the reason they want to import illegals. They are counting on their votes as well. That's the left's biggest weapon of all. Appearing to be the nice guys. Don't fall for the act. Hope I helped. You can use all or some or none of what I said in the future rules. Keep fighting the good fight Guess I kind of just expanded on 5. Oh well. Hope I helped. |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars. Well done post. You put effort into it I can see. A strategy for handling the left's evil is smart. I don't have any suggestions to add though at the moment. You summed it up well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76696369 Thanks for the feedback.. If you think of a new rule to add come back to the thread and share it! I appreciate it Perhaps.. "Don't fall for the left's fake moral superiority" One of the number one weapons of the left is to appear to take the moral high ground. This feigned moral superiority is nothing more than an excuse to push a political agenda. Know when they are saying they want to fight racism, that means destroy white western society and culture. When they say they want to protect abortion rights. It really means profit off planned parenthood. When it comes to gay rights, they are trying to increase their voting base. Big part of the reason they want to import illegals. They are counting on their votes as well. That's the left's biggest weapon of all. Appearing to be the nice guys. Don't fall for the act. Hope I helped. You can use all or some or none of what I said in the future rules. Keep fighting the good fight Guess I kind of just expanded on 5. Oh well. Hope I helped. Thank you ... Some of it is touched on in rule 4 and some in rule 5. I want to make this about how to be on the offense.... The right reacts too much because the left has dominated cultural and societal narrative for far too long. It's time for the right to go on attack and stop reacting... I'd like to explore "How to defeat the left's fake moral superiority" moreso than explain how to not fall for it. You know? Last Edited by BoatyMcBoatface on 06/21/2018 12:24 AM ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44766950 United States 06/21/2018 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6) Never parody the leftwing party line using sarcasm. It doesn't work. Many people do not understand sarcasm and it just confuses them. Ultimately you just end up propagating the left wing line. Whenever you must discuss statements made by the left, always carefully explain who said, then only use a phrase. Don't ever say an entire paragraph and then respond to it, you will merely be quoted out of context. Never rant the opposite of what you believe sarcastically. If you do this you are simply shooting yourself (and others) in the foot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38388680 United States 06/21/2018 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lately I see that a lot of them try to derail conversation or argument by pointing out logical fallacies (that they also try to trick you into by leading the conversation) yet they use one themselves all the time. It's called "Appeal to Authority" Appealing to authority is basically admitting that their arguments mean nothing, because they don't even understand their arguments enough to defend themselves properly. Instead they will listen to only people in their echo chambers who they have decided are "authorities" on the matter. They do this to seem more intelligent, but really it belies their own insecurity and weakness in being able to defend the arguments that they probably started. Call them on it. Calling them on a logical fallacy will show them that you're familiar with the tools they're using to try to discredit you. This makes you look "educated" and no longer someone they can just talk down to in the same way while making themselves feel superior, or somehow "better" than you. Suddenly you aren't "quite" as different from them as they thought, and their narrative of self vs other has the potential to begin to fall apart. While I think that this probably falls under 1 and 2 (which are written beautifully) I figured I might toss it out there as something to think about. |
Beetlepumprr User ID: 76187211 United States 06/21/2018 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignore and jump right over as if no consequence. When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. jimi Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. I'm just a product of insufficient modality. Humans of Earth! I have come in peace. You need not fear me. I mean you no harm. However, it may be important to know that most of you will not survive the next 24 hours. And those of you who do survive will be enslaved and experimented on. You should in no way take any of this personally — it's just business! |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's also important to use their own tools against them. Not all of them, some of them are just plain evil... but one thing the left loves to do, is seem educated, and seem like they're logical or interested in the opinions of "experts" Quoting: HomeOnTheRange Lately I see that a lot of them try to derail conversation or argument by pointing out logical fallacies (that they also try to trick you into by leading the conversation) yet they use one themselves all the time. It's called "Appeal to Authority" Appealing to authority is basically admitting that their arguments mean nothing, because they don't even understand their arguments enough to defend themselves properly. Instead they will listen to only people in their echo chambers who they have decided are "authorities" on the matter. They do this to seem more intelligent, but really it belies their own insecurity and weakness in being able to defend the arguments that they probably started. Call them on it. Calling them on a logical fallacy will show them that you're familiar with the tools they're using to try to discredit you. This makes you look "educated" and no longer someone they can just talk down to in the same way while making themselves feel superior, or somehow "better" than you. Suddenly you aren't "quite" as different from them as they thought, and their narrative of self vs other has the potential to begin to fall apart. While I think that this probably falls under 1 and 2 (which are written beautifully) I figured I might toss it out there as something to think about. Excellent.. I was just thinking about this as I listened to the Red debate with Jeranism about flat earth.. I was disappointed that Red used appeal to athority fallacy at the end and a few times in the beginning. I expected more from him. But it has great application to this topic! If you are okay with it, I might rip complete sentences from your reply to post as another rule if I may? ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74021806 United States 06/21/2018 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most crucial fallacy of the left is their belief (and that of other people too) that liberalism supposedly - supposedly - comes from a nicey-nicey, huggy-huggy part of the human soul. It sure as hell doesn't. The reason? There's nothing nice and caring about humans when they're severely deficient in common sense, honesty, logic and ethics. Many people, however, will make excuses for those weaknesses if they involve liberals. The reason? Because the naive and foolish falsely assumes that liberals at least mean well. But who cares? After all, look at all the ruthless, misery-inducing major figures of the left, including Stalin, Mao, Castro, Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro, Kim Jong-il. They never brag about how inhumane and anti-nice they are. Just the opposite. If anything, they believe their sleazy liberalism is God's gift to mankind. One guy often not associated with that bunch - with the left - Hitler, nonetheless and actually had a lot of traits of a typical liberal: He supported animals rights, veganism (he didn't like humans thinking of animals as food), a political party with "socialist" in its name and big-brother government. He felt more softy-softy towards Islam than Christianity. He was also homosexual throughout most of his life and was into creative-artistic matters. Hitler had a lot of traits closer to those of a Hollywood secular Liberal than a Midwestern Christian conservative. . |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6) Never parody the leftwing party line using sarcasm. It doesn't work. Many people do not understand sarcasm and it just confuses them. Ultimately you just end up propagating the left wing line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44766950 Whenever you must discuss statements made by the left, always carefully explain who said, then only use a phrase. Don't ever say an entire paragraph and then respond to it, you will merely be quoted out of context. Never rant the opposite of what you believe sarcastically. If you do this you are simply shooting yourself (and others) in the foot. Yes. This is what Mark Dice has been doing a lot of recently. It only gives the left ammunition to their claims that he's a racist. Great idea ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most crucial fallacy of the left is their belief (and that of other people too) that liberalism supposedly - supposedly - comes from a nicey-nicey, huggy-huggy part of the human soul. It sure as hell doesn't. The reason? There's nothing nice and caring about humans when they're severely deficient in common sense, honesty, logic and ethics. Many people, however, will make excuses for those weaknesses if they involve liberals. The reason? Because the naive and foolish falsely assumes that liberals at least mean well. But who cares? After all, look at all the ruthless, misery-inducing major figures of the left, including Stalin, Mao, Castro, Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro, Kim Jong-il. They never brag about how inhumane and anti-nice they are. Just the opposite. If anything, they believe their sleazy liberalism is God's gift to mankind. One guy often not associated with that bunch - with the left - Hitler, nonetheless and actually had a lot of traits of a typical liberal: He supported animals rights, veganism (he didn't like humans thinking of animals as food), a political party with "socialist" in its name and big-brother government. He felt more softy-softy towards Islam than Christianity. He was also homosexual throughout most of his life and was into creative-artistic matters. Hitler had a lot of traits closer to those of a Hollywood secular Liberal than a Midwestern Christian conservative. . Thank you for this.. I'm thinking about how to incorporate your points into rules 3 and 4 respectively.. Your post provides a nice transition between the two rules. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38388680 United States 06/21/2018 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's also important to use their own tools against them. Not all of them, some of them are just plain evil... but one thing the left loves to do, is seem educated, and seem like they're logical or interested in the opinions of "experts" Quoting: HomeOnTheRange Lately I see that a lot of them try to derail conversation or argument by pointing out logical fallacies (that they also try to trick you into by leading the conversation) yet they use one themselves all the time. It's called "Appeal to Authority" Appealing to authority is basically admitting that their arguments mean nothing, because they don't even understand their arguments enough to defend themselves properly. Instead they will listen to only people in their echo chambers who they have decided are "authorities" on the matter. They do this to seem more intelligent, but really it belies their own insecurity and weakness in being able to defend the arguments that they probably started. Call them on it. Calling them on a logical fallacy will show them that you're familiar with the tools they're using to try to discredit you. This makes you look "educated" and no longer someone they can just talk down to in the same way while making themselves feel superior, or somehow "better" than you. Suddenly you aren't "quite" as different from them as they thought, and their narrative of self vs other has the potential to begin to fall apart. While I think that this probably falls under 1 and 2 (which are written beautifully) I figured I might toss it out there as something to think about. Excellent.. I was just thinking about this as I listened to the Red debate with Jeranism about flat earth.. I was disappointed that Red used appeal to athority fallacy at the end and a few times in the beginning. I expected more from him. But it has great application to this topic! If you are okay with it, I might rip complete sentences from your reply to post as another rule if I may? Go for it :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75182721 United States 06/21/2018 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, cease and desist on your attempts to pigeonhole anyone into a 2-party, fraudulent system, aka Paul Ryan/John McCain bullshit. Second, fuck you for trying to further sibdivide the conservatives into lesser categories. Seriously, fuck off. Third, my three guiding forces in politics are the Holy Bible, the US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Suck it, shills. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76696369 Canada 06/21/2018 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Boaty Thanks for the feedback.. If you think of a new rule to add come back to the thread and share it! I appreciate it Perhaps.. "Don't fall for the left's fake moral superiority" One of the number one weapons of the left is to appear to take the moral high ground. This feigned moral superiority is nothing more than an excuse to push a political agenda. Know when they are saying they want to fight racism, that means destroy white western society and culture. When they say they want to protect abortion rights. It really means profit off planned parenthood. When it comes to gay rights, they are trying to increase their voting base. Big part of the reason they want to import illegals. They are counting on their votes as well. That's the left's biggest weapon of all. Appearing to be the nice guys. Don't fall for the act. Hope I helped. You can use all or some or none of what I said in the future rules. Keep fighting the good fight Guess I kind of just expanded on 5. Oh well. Hope I helped. Thank you ... Some of it is touched on in rule 4 and some in rule 5. I want to make this about how to be on the offense.... The right reacts too much because the left has dominated cultural and societal narrative for far too long. It's time for the right to go on attack and stop reacting... I'd like to explore "How to defeat the left's fake moral superiority" moreso than explain how to not fall for it. You know? How about "Destroy the narrative that the left is morally superior" The best way to destroy this narrative, in my opinion, is to show that they are in fact morally inferior and point out their evil every step of the way. Destroy their moral high ground lie with real examples. Indisputable facts. Like for example the irony in the fact that the left is pretending to care so much about these border children yet support millions of babies being aborted every year. We know this sudden worry for border families is nothing more than an underhanded and slick attempt at taking down Trump. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74021806 United States 06/21/2018 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, cease and desist on your attempts to pigeonhole anyone into a 2-party, fraudulent system, aka Paul Ryan/John McCain bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75182721 Second, fuck you for trying to further sibdivide the conservatives into lesser categories. Seriously, fuck off. Third, my three guiding forces in politics are the Holy Bible, the US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Suck it, shills. People who react the way you do are often way more idiotically liberal than they want to admit to or realize. They're the ones who tend to think their liberal impulses come from a nicey-nice part of the brain. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74021806 United States 06/21/2018 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are definitely snippets of liberalism in Trump's brain. That's true of many people in general. That's one reason various people don't like being too upfront and candid about liberals and liberalism. They're not too different from guys secretly turned on by young girls feeling uneasy when the subject of pedophilia comes up. Donald Trump has also lived all his life in the world of limousine liberalism, otherwise known as New York City. Even worse, he has been a part of the entertainment industry for decades. Common sense, honesty and integrity are not exactly important values to many people in those two environments. It's actually commendable that in spite of that, Trump has retained enough logic and sanity to not be a foolish, irresponsible, wild-eyed liberal. Or a cross between Hillary and Bill, Barack and Harvey Weinstein. With some George Soros thrown in for a really nasty, mean witches brew. . |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, cease and desist on your attempts to pigeonhole anyone into a 2-party, fraudulent system, aka Paul Ryan/John McCain bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75182721 Second, fuck you for trying to further sibdivide the conservatives into lesser categories. Seriously, fuck off. Third, my three guiding forces in politics are the Holy Bible, the US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Suck it, shills. I combined the right like so: Republicans/Conservatives/Christians/Libertarians. Should we now develop a right-wing idea of intersectionalism? ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are definitely snippets of liberalism in Trump's brain. That's true of many people in general. That's one reason various people don't like being too upfront and candid about liberals and liberalism. They're not too different from guys secretly turned on by young girls feeling uneasy when the subject of pedophilia comes up. Donald Trump has also lived all his life in the world of limousine liberalism, otherwise known as New York City. Even worse, he has been a part of the entertainment industry for decades. Common sense, honesty and integrity are not exactly important values to many people in those two environments. It's actually commendable that in spite of that, Trump has retained enough logic and sanity to not be a foolish, irresponsible, wild-eyed liberal. Or a cross between Hillary and Bill, Barack and Harvey Weinstein. With some George Soros thrown in for a really nasty, mean witches brew. . There is a reason I used the words "left" and "leftist" in my OP. Liberalism itself, per the classical definition, is not what I'm working to destroy with this exploration. That would be like saying all women should be destroyed. Or the right brain hemisphere should be destroyed. I want to destroy leftism. [link to www.dailysignal.com (secure)] ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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Boaty (OP) User ID: 75138722 United States 06/21/2018 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was off topic. Post your rant against Trump as it's own thread. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44766950 United States 06/21/2018 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I predicted, not ONE trump supporter dares address my post, too many facts? Cmon, atleast call me names! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76178480 You seem to be suffering from some type of confusion. First of all, you are off topic for the thread. Second of all, I only see this one post from your user ID. |
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