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Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?

 
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Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
Several of my friends with degrees in various fields cannot get a job. Many of my friends wanted to make themselves more marketable, so they obtained Masters or even a PHD, yet they still cannot find work. Granted, one is a psychology major and the other is an oceanographer, but still is it really even worth the money now days? I am thinking about finishing my B.A. but I fear not being able to pay my loans back. I donít want to spend a fortune without some type of hope for the future.

What degrees are the most marketable and what degrees should be avoided? Do any of you have useless degrees? Also, since it appears that so many graduates are unemployed, how the heck havenít we had a student loan bubble by now?

Is a Masters degree the new Bachelor degree? It seems as if everyone has a bachelors degree, so it isnít rare.

This whole system seems shoddy and beyond relate. I kind of wish we could go back to the old trade days when people developed marketable skills that directly applies to their career of choice. Most degrees are bullshit and they donít seem to offer much in the way of training.
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Several of my friends with degrees in various fields cannot get a job. Many of my friends wanted to make themselves more marketable, so they obtained Masters or even a PHD, yet they still cannot find work. Granted, one is a psychology major and the other is an oceanographer, but still is it really even worth the money now days? I am thinking about finishing my B.A. but I fear not being able to pay my loans back. I donít want to spend a fortune without some type of hope for the future.

What degrees are the most marketable and what degrees should be avoided? Do any of you have useless degrees? Also, since it appears that so many graduates are unemployed, how the heck havenít we had a student loan bubble by now?

Is a Masters degree the new Bachelor degree? It seems as if everyone has a bachelors degree, so it isnít rare.

This whole system seems shoddy and beyond repair. I kind of wish we could go back to the old trade days when people developed marketable skills that directly apply to their career of choice. Most degrees are bullshit and they donít seem to offer much in the way of training.
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Fixed.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
Several of my friends with degrees in various fields cannot get a job. Many of my friends wanted to make themselves more marketable, so they obtained Masters or even a PHD, yet they still cannot find work. Granted, one is a psychology major and the other is an oceanographer, but still is it really even worth the money now days? I am thinking about finishing my B.A. but I fear not being able to pay my loans back. I donít want to spend a fortune without some type of hope for the future.

What degrees are the most marketable and what degrees should be avoided? Do any of you have useless degrees? Also, since it appears that so many graduates are unemployed, how the heck havenít we had a student loan bubble by now?

Is a Masters degree the new Bachelor degree? It seems as if everyone has a bachelors degree, so it isnít rare.

This whole system seems shoddy and beyond relate. I kind of wish we could go back to the old trade days when people developed marketable skills that directly applies to their career of choice. Most degrees are bullshit and they donít seem to offer much in the way of training.
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Engineering, either mechanical, civil, electrical or automotive. Every person I know from university who studied engineering is working full time with a good salary and perks (bonus, private health care company car etc).
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study computer security!!! you'll never be out of work!!!!
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Several of my friends with degrees in various fields cannot get a job. Many of my friends wanted to make themselves more marketable, so they obtained Masters or even a PHD, yet they still cannot find work. Granted, one is a psychology major and the other is an oceanographer, but still is it really even worth the money now days? I am thinking about finishing my B.A. but I fear not being able to pay my loans back. I donít want to spend a fortune without some type of hope for the future.

What degrees are the most marketable and what degrees should be avoided? Do any of you have useless degrees? Also, since it appears that so many graduates are unemployed, how the heck havenít we had a student loan bubble by now?

Is a Masters degree the new Bachelor degree? It seems as if everyone has a bachelors degree, so it isnít rare.

This whole system seems shoddy and beyond relate. I kind of wish we could go back to the old trade days when people developed marketable skills that directly applies to their career of choice. Most degrees are bullshit and they donít seem to offer much in the way of training.
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Here is the problem - your personal skills suck! There are people without degrees who have no problem finding a job. Obviously, more education is not your ticket to success. Learn better personal skills and become an extrovert!
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
From my understanding if you have a college degree you do get paid more than a worker that doesn't.

The same goes for only having a high school education.

yoda

In the long run the extra money that is made by going to college goes towards student loans.

yoda

That could mean that after student loans are taken out of a paychek some people might actually only be earning the same as someone that only graduated high school.
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I would ay its not worth the money. Much of what you learn at uni, if you have the drive, you can learn from online for free. I have a MS in Events Management and a BA in Music Tech. No events company or music tech or even related company has offered me a job yet. I now work in a warehouse 7 days a week working alongside immigrants and ex-convicts.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
Yep, many of these responses have already answered your question. It depends on your major. If you get a 4 year degree in a usable field like engineering, nursing, accounting, etc you should be able to find stable employment. But, if you get a degree, like a friend of mine did, in Marine Biology then God be with you.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
it depends upon what the degree is in

a degree in general fuckery is not worth much
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
School is all about skill. Pick something useful like a technical trade or, if your already in your field, something that applies to your career.

during the reccession tuition and applications for college tripled. people thought "the economy is tough but i need..."
that's what fueled colleges to make b.s. credit classes so that they could sell you something.

school is a great place to learn if you have the time but as a starving person just trying to make it by its not worth it.

there are three things you need to determine: do you know what you want, how you want it, and what exactly are you gonna do with it.

oops i also forot the cost to you. IF you can afford it try it but if its a life on the line type decision make some time to really think about how much money is this really worth vs how much can you actually give.
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PhD here. Had a tenured position until my university decided to cut my program. Been out of work for 2 years -- can only find part-time teaching. About 6 months ago I gave up looking and started advertising my services as a handyman. I make almost as much doing odd jobs for millenials who don't know the back enc of hammer as I did when I was a professor.
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A college degree regardless of discipline teaches you the ability to produce the requested work on demand. It is a recipe for actually being employed. Use the techniques, not necessarily the specifics of your degree and work is not a problem.
I am saying yes, mostly.
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Losers are gonna lose. Winners are gonna win.
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Bring back the trades schools. There's still job security for many areas of service jobs.
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Your group came her to fracture this slave matrix instead you think your the body you are wearing its made up of million other energy working as one to support this illusion you are the power source you are not your ego you source energy having a experience thats been hijacked by brother and sister in separation who are using your energy to stay in separation.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
From my understanding if you have a college degree you do get paid more than a worker that doesn't.

The same goes for only having a high school education.

yoda

In the long run the extra money that is made by going to college goes towards student loans.

yoda

That could mean that after student loans are taken out of a paychek some people might actually only be earning the same as someone that only graduated high school.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
You have to consider the RACE of the people in the career field. I went into Comp Engineering and the Indians took over the field, then I became a Doctor and the Indians took over the field ( no residency since im white). Take a look at what ethnicity is dominating the field you want. College is mostly a huge waste of time,,,,,my best friend is an Engineer and only has a 2 yr tech certificate from an electronics school; he has Masters Level engineers working for him. Best advice : GET A TRADE and screw the professions if you are white.
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Having a degree makes finding a GOOD job easier.

Having a masters or PHD makes finding a GREAT job easier. The only problem is that there are not very many GREAT jobs available.

I suggest study something you enjoy and make lots of contacts.

When you look for a job you will find that the degree will get you an interview. But your contacts will get you the job.
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you have to get a degree in something that is hard and in demand. Computer Sciene, various forms of engineering..
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The people who bitch about having uni and no jobs all seem to have picked something they liked rather than "what can I get a job in later"...

If you wasted 5 years in uni for basket weaving type courses, you're a moron who deserves to work in a warehouse..
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
I would ay its not worth the money. Much of what you learn at uni, if you have the drive, you can learn from online for free. I have a MS in Events Management and a BA in Music Tech. No events company or music tech or even related company has offered me a job yet. I now work in a warehouse 7 days a week working alongside immigrants and ex-convicts.
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In those fields you would have to make a name for yourself before anyone would be interested in you. Or of course know people who could get you a job. You would have to network.
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You have to consider the RACE of the people in the career field. I went into Comp Engineering and the Indians took over the field, then I became a Doctor and the Indians took over the field ( no residency since im white). Take a look at what ethnicity is dominating the field you want. College is mostly a huge waste of time,,,,,my best friend is an Engineer and only has a 2 yr tech certificate from an electronics school; he has Masters Level engineers working for him. Best advice : GET A TRADE and screw the professions if you are white.
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A Two Year Associates degree does not make you a certifiable Engineer, however that does not mean you cant do the work. Tons of people can do the work in SW, Electrical and Code in their garages but wont make an engineers paycheck.
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It ain't what you know, it's who you blow that's get you a good job.
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I have a liberal arts degree in English and Spanish, and have been working in a highly technical engineering field for over 20 years.

As an engineer.


I could not have gotten the job without a degree, but that was just to check a box on the application.




Self study is what brings you success, not a university.

(unless you want to be a doctor or lawyer, ofc)
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Yes, I have a college degree and at the moment I am having trouble finding a job. Mine is more related to my experience, age, and my not so winning personality. If I was willing to move, I could find a job.

There are plenty of jobs in healthcare fields. How many of those just coming out of school are expecting to make a 6 figure salary from the get go? Yes, those jobs are limited.

If you want some advice from an older person, look for more in a job than your yearly salary. Look for jobs that offer a pension. Teaching, federal jobs, city/county jobs. A Masters or Doctorate are necessary to get a college teaching job. No you may not get rich but you will have a more secure retirement.

Do you need a collage degree to make a lot of money? Not if you are a go-getter or extremely lucky. I would say that it is easy to get caught in deadend jobs, especially if you are good at what you do. Those who succeed are those brown nosers and back stabbers or braggarts. Get there on time with your makeup on, your hair fixed, and your uniform pressed and kiss up to the boss. For those who believe merritt and doing your job well will get you far, oh no,no,no! People want to keep you right where you are doing that good job!
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It ain't what you know, it's who you blow that's get you a good job.
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Schools train students to be employees, not employers, that's the problem. Also, what that other guy said about working on your personal skills is very true. People don't like working with introverts. You won't get hired if you are monotone and one dimensional in personality. Just acquire some new knowledge or activities that you can share with others, that helps you bond and build rapport.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
Several of my friends with degrees in various fields cannot get a job. Many of my friends wanted to make themselves more marketable, so they obtained Masters or even a PHD, yet they still cannot find work. Granted, one is a psychology major and the other is an oceanographer, but still is it really even worth the money now days? I am thinking about finishing my B.A. but I fear not being able to pay my loans back. I donít want to spend a fortune without some type of hope for the future.

What degrees are the most marketable and what degrees should be avoided? Do any of you have useless degrees? Also, since it appears that so many graduates are unemployed, how the heck havenít we had a student loan bubble by now?

Is a Masters degree the new Bachelor degree? It seems as if everyone has a bachelors degree, so it isnít rare.

This whole system seems shoddy and beyond relate. I kind of wish we could go back to the old trade days when people developed marketable skills that directly applies to their career of choice. Most degrees are bullshit and they donít seem to offer much in the way of training.
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Here is the problem - your personal skills suck! There are people without degrees who have no problem finding a job. Obviously, more education is not your ticket to success. Learn better personal skills and become an extrovert!
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We call them liars and salesmen. This is why most things suck now.
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learn a vocation and multitasking.


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college, bahahahahahah im a tool and die maker i make over $100,000 a year have fully paid health insurance and a gas card. Oh yeah and 4 1/2 weeks of vacation.
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Re: Who here has a college degree and cannot get a job? Is higher education worth the money?
A college degree is definitely worth it. But, you do have to be selective about your area of study. My daughter-in-law got a psychology degree. Understand, this young woman has never had a B in her life. She went to a prestigious college and graduated with highest honors in 4 years. Then it took her awhile to find a job - well, a friend actually got her that job at a medical research firm and she is doing quite well and likes it, but she makes quite a bit less than I do as a teacher. But it is a comfortable place to work.

However, my son also went to a prestigious college and graduated with highest honors in mechanical engineering (a lot of electrical and robotics job experience and awards). He got his first pick of jobs for a government contractor. In his mid-twenties, his company has him in charge of several projects, he has high govt clearance, and they send him around the country to act as keynote speaker at various conferences. He loves his job - not so much all the travelling.

My daughter also got an engineering degree at the same prestigious college. She went on for her PhD (grad assistantship so it was paid). She is the Director of Engineering for her firm at 30. She also has substantial travel.

Now, my field requires a degree, but there is also a huge demand. I am a special education teacher and specialize in autism and at-risk students. I'm in my 50s. I have moved twice in 5 years, having to quit and find new jobs. Each time I found one within a week. There is a huge demand. Now, I don't make squat money for having a Master's and years of experience ($50s). But I survive and I do get a number of days off. My kids both make 2-3 times what I do, though.

My ex-husband just has a BS degree in agribusiness. He is in sales management for a large company. Granted he has been with them since college graduation, but he makes a salary pushing 3 times what I do and then in a good year he can get an additional 40% bonus. The hourly workers in that company make shit. He also travels 3-5 days per week.

Now, there are a lot of career paths you can take which do not require a 4-year degree, but they do require some training. Electricians, plumbers, medical assistante and techs, truckers, HVAC, general contractor, etc.

You just need to be smart about what you want to do with regards to job growth and openings. Notice my notes on travel. A lot of people don't want to travel for work because it affects their home life and family. However, people who have to regularly travel tend to get paid quite a bit more than those who do not. Just saying... My ex says they and his customers have difficulty finding people to fill those travel jobs. I don't know about you, but I would travel 4 days a week to bring home a $200k salary. He gets 6 wks of vacation.





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