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Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’

 
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Children in gangs are combining prescription drugs such as Ritalin with cannabis in a toxic cocktail.. a former gang member who trains police in dealing with violent crime said many young people were mixing medications prescribed for ADHD with illegal drugs. "They start hallucinating and hearing voices. If they are listening to drill music that’s telling them to go and stab someone across the road, [they] are going to do it,” he said.

A study by the Ministry of Justice found that 40 per cent of young knife crime offenders had special educational needs..

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Use of ‘chemical cosh’ drugs on children doubles in a decade
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Stupid leftist thinking. Mustn't punish violent behaviour, just drug them up and it'll be fine..
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And you can’t score normal weed or hash anymore in London, just super-strength GMO Skunk which is enough to twist anyone’s brain.

I’m almost 50 with a good job. Strictly a recreational and sensible smoker - yet the London weed (skunk) even has me thinking violent fantasies sometimes. Luckily have a handle on it - but these young dumb kids? Nope.
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
And you can’t score normal weed or hash anymore in London, just super-strength GMO Skunk which is enough to twist anyone’s brain.

I’m almost 50 with a good job. Strictly a recreational and sensible smoker - yet the London weed (skunk) even has me thinking violent fantasies sometimes. Luckily have a handle on it - but these young dumb kids? Nope.
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Exactly. People I knew in London never had a problem with normal joints. But now it's crazy. The stabbings and knife murder stats are just mental right now. Almost seems as if someone's trying to wipe out a whole generation..
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
Most of the newer generation straibs of cannabis are bred and desugned in israel, the land where intel cpu's were backdoored by design.

Cannabis has been weaponized by the israelis.

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Really??

Do you have any links or Info please??

Wow.....

I always thought the whole rave/Ecstasy thing was government co trolled back in the late 80’s onwards- and I was right in the middle of it all. Ecstasy caused terrible mental health problems later on to a LOT of people
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
And you can’t score normal weed or hash anymore in London, just super-strength GMO Skunk which is enough to twist anyone’s brain.

I’m almost 50 with a good job. Strictly a recreational and sensible smoker - yet the London weed (skunk) even has me thinking violent fantasies sometimes. Luckily have a handle on it - but these young dumb kids? Nope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Exactly. People I knew in London never had a problem with normal joints. But now it's crazy. The stabbings and knife murder stats are just mental right now. Almost seems as if someone's trying to wipe out a whole generation..
 Quoting: Tess.


Not sure if it is current drug trends or just society these days though.
Ritalin is a very weak drug, only given in low dose pills to allow users to focus etc. I guess they could neck a load but i really feel it is down to the peer pressure society with social media etc which seems to make people do dumb things for cred points etc? I also feel they have missed the point on gang culture and drugs. They are not gonna neck low yield prescription crap when they have access to coke from a young age imo.
I reckon they are avoiding the issue that kids from 12 up are using and selling cocaine through gangs and mixing it with weed and alcohol - a truly potent mix but they want to blame the presc drug path instead of the real problem which is coke imo, esp in London!
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
Ritalin is speed. It's not the weed causing this. Speed has always made people nuts.
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Most of the newer generation straibs of cannabis are bred and desugned in israel, the land where intel cpu's were backdoored by design.

Cannabis has been weaponized by the israelis.


resistresistresist
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Really??

Do you have any links or Info please??

Wow.....

I always thought the whole rave/Ecstasy thing was government co trolled back in the late 80’s onwards- and I was right in the middle of it all. Ecstasy caused terrible mental health problems later on to a LOT of people
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Search fornit yourself you lazy bum. Shills and trolls will have their way all over you weaklings.
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
Most of the newer generation straibs of cannabis are bred and desugned in israel, the land where intel cpu's were backdoored by design.

Cannabis has been weaponized by the israelis.

resistresistresist
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76711811



Really??

Do you have any links or Info please??

Wow.....

I always thought the whole rave/Ecstasy thing was government co trolled back in the late 80’s onwards- and I was right in the middle of it all. Ecstasy caused terrible mental health problems later on to a LOT of people
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Easy to blame ecstacy and forgetting that everyone was smoking weed on the come down!

Their is nothing wrong with MDMA imo, it was always down to what else was taken or what it may be cut with such as speed etc that caused the issues you are thinking of, and don't give me the holes in brain crap the govt told you. Sure a little serotonin depletion occurred for a few days but the "long term issues" are govt propaganda.
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
No, nothing wrong with REAL mdma you’re right
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
Reaching for excuses to cover the violent crime increase due too Muslim "refugees"? That's my thought... I mean I thought gangs and the criminal class are heavily into drugs practically everywhere. Of course it is that way in the USA, look at the inner city gangs here they are drugged up all the time.
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
And you can’t score normal weed or hash anymore in London, just super-strength GMO Skunk which is enough to twist anyone’s brain.

I’m almost 50 with a good job. Strictly a recreational and sensible smoker - yet the London weed (skunk) even has me thinking violent fantasies sometimes. Luckily have a handle on it - but these young dumb kids? Nope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Exactly. People I knew in London never had a problem with normal joints. But now it's crazy. The stabbings and knife murder stats are just mental right now. Almost seems as if someone's trying to wipe out a whole generation..
 Quoting: Tess.


Not sure if it is current drug trends or just society these days though.
Ritalin is a very weak drug, only given in low dose pills to allow users to focus etc. I guess they could neck a load but i really feel it is down to the peer pressure society with social media etc which seems to make people do dumb things for cred points etc? I also feel they have missed the point on gang culture and drugs. They are not gonna neck low yield prescription crap when they have access to coke from a young age imo.
I reckon they are avoiding the issue that kids from 12 up are using and selling cocaine through gangs and mixing it with weed and alcohol - a truly potent mix but they want to blame the presc drug path instead of the real problem which is coke imo, esp in London!
 Quoting: curry nosher


Coke in London is a massive problem. I worked at a music festival in Essex a couple of weeks ago and the you could cut the Cokey atmosphere with a knife. There were two massive 30+ person knife fights that weekend. Then the locals stormed the gates when security temporary shut the gates to control the aggro still going on inside!!

Never seen nothing like it and I’ve been around forever
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
...... I said to a few of them: you cunts are supposed to be enjoying yourselves!!
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
Coke in London is a massive problem. I worked at a music festival in Essex a couple of weeks ago and the you could cut the Cokey atmosphere with a knife. There were two massive 30+ person knife fights that weekend. Then the locals stormed the gates when security temporary shut the gates to control the aggro still going on inside!!

Never seen nothing like it and I’ve been around forever
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Thats crazy but I believe it! Luckily in the USA the drug trends at the time are downers, everyone knows about the opiate epidemic but also benzo's are a huge thing.
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Chicago Illinois USA is arguably more deadlier than Syria, sounds like a winning weapnized combination for impoverished blacks in america.

The rich and constantly publicized blacks are boule freemasons, primce hall masons, they have a hand in keeping black americans in their place.
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
Coke in London is a massive problem. I worked at a music festival in Essex a couple of weeks ago and the you could cut the Cokey atmosphere with a knife. There were two massive 30+ person knife fights that weekend. Then the locals stormed the gates when security temporary shut the gates to control the aggro still going on inside!!

Never seen nothing like it and I’ve been around forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Thats crazy but I believe it! Luckily in the USA the drug trends at the time are downers, everyone knows about the opiate epidemic but also benzo's are a huge thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72626591


Yeah i get that but the UK is all about the uppers man, these guys are not going out robbing people on Ritalin imo. That would be considered a joke drug by most of them, they are all about the coke for sure.
Good thread though and interesting to see a report blaming one thing when reality is another.... some agenda in play i reckon? - prob cos most of the people involved in the reports and govt etc like a bit a of sniff and all the debauchery that comes with it!
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Re: Ritalin used with cannabis ‘is fuelling gang violence’
kids have been taking ritalin and smoking weed for years.

it's todays kids that are more violent.
i blame most of it on violent video gaming. also, as the dependency on social media continues,the decline in actual socialization in real life decreases. people become avatars. its easy to gun down a room of avatars, they have been doing it for hours since they were children.

not ritalin and weed.
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Coke in London is a massive problem. I worked at a music festival in Essex a couple of weeks ago and the you could cut the Cokey atmosphere with a knife. There were two massive 30+ person knife fights that weekend. Then the locals stormed the gates when security temporary shut the gates to control the aggro still going on inside!!

Never seen nothing like it and I’ve been around forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Thats crazy but I believe it! Luckily in the USA the drug trends at the time are downers, everyone knows about the opiate epidemic but also benzo's are a huge thing.
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I lived with a guy who is now 32 or so. He smoked bong hits and took ritalin all day every day. Somehow he made it through college, heavily in debt, of course.

I haven't seen him in a few years but come to find out he is cross dressing now and identifying as a woman. I would NEVER have guessed, but if he kept doing what he was doing when I knew him I guess it makes sense?

Ritalin is crank. Period. I don't like the mind blowing high weed, either. I call it nazi weed. If I want to trip I will pursue that. I don't need that much thc or whatever it is that is going into those super high strains.
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I got a hold of some shit the other day that boy I tell ya what, if your mind is just a little bit messed up, that shit could make you fuck a rattlesnake, and make her boyfriend snake watch...

Yea, some shit out here just makes ya damn crazy high, and crazy mean!! Be careful guys, be careful!!
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Ritalin is speed. It's not the weed causing this. Speed has always made people nuts.
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Yup, it's prescription drug abuse.
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...... I said to a few of them: you cunts are supposed to be enjoying yourselves!!
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Yeah i have seen that change in the Uk scene also mate, used to be all huggie and friendly pre 2000's but it all changed so much with crap quality pills, coke n ketamine in clubs n festivals - far too messy lol.

Some things are better done at home with mates or the missus hf
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Get them on to Ritalout quick!
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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Ritalin is speed. It's not the weed causing this. Speed has always made people nuts.
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What is Ritalin? Ritalin (methylphenidate) is a central nervous system stimulant. It affects chemicals in the brain and nerves that contribute to hyperactivity and impulse control. Ritalin is used to treat attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) , and narcolepsy . Ritalin may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide.
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You mean they are ritalin addicts who come down by smoking cannabis?
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Ritalin is speed. It's not the weed causing this. Speed has always made people nuts.
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Nice try though, Tess.
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the toxic part of the cocktail is the ritalin

they must have hired an intern to write that article, cuz it's an amateur attempt to smear cannabis
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Most of the newer generation straibs of cannabis are bred and desugned in israel, the land where intel cpu's were backdoored by design.

Cannabis has been weaponized by the israelis.

resistresistresist
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Really??

Do you have any links or Info please??

Wow.....

I always thought the whole rave/Ecstasy thing was government co trolled back in the late 80’s onwards- and I was right in the middle of it all. Ecstasy caused terrible mental health problems later on to a LOT of people
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Easy to blame ecstacy and forgetting that everyone was smoking weed on the come down!

Their is nothing wrong with MDMA imo, it was always down to what else was taken or what it may be cut with such as speed etc that caused the issues you are thinking of, and don't give me the holes in brain crap the govt told you. Sure a little serotonin depletion occurred for a few days but the "long term issues" are govt propaganda.
 Quoting: curry nosher


Lol oh fucking wow, so now MDMA is perfectly fine and it's the weed causing people to go nuts?

Get fucked shill.
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Coke in London is a massive problem. I worked at a music festival in Essex a couple of weeks ago and the you could cut the Cokey atmosphere with a knife. There were two massive 30+ person knife fights that weekend. Then the locals stormed the gates when security temporary shut the gates to control the aggro still going on inside!!

Never seen nothing like it and I’ve been around forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Thats crazy but I believe it! Luckily in the USA the drug trends at the time are downers, everyone knows about the opiate epidemic but also benzo's are a huge thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72626591


Yeah i get that but the UK is all about the uppers man, these guys are not going out robbing people on Ritalin imo. That would be considered a joke drug by most of them, they are all about the coke for sure.
Good thread though and interesting to see a report blaming one thing when reality is another.... some agenda in play i reckon? - prob cos most of the people involved in the reports and govt etc like a bit a of sniff and all the debauchery that comes with it!
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That's cuz Americans are always smokin weed. Smoke weed..drive. Smoke weed...work. Smoke weed...pop a few peeps off. When down ...come down from weed with other stuff. We are already acclimated to it. When we are not smokin weed we are gaping cbd oils...etc.
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Ritalin is speed. It's not the weed causing this. Speed has always made people nuts.
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hesright

Nice try though, Tess.
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Not what Tess is saying mate. Ritalin although is related to speed is VERY mild in dose, however when mixed with weed might make it more psychoactive. I don't really believe Ritalin abuse within gangs is an issue but to blame it on Ritalin when weed is way more psychoactive is nuts lol.

Anyway gangs are doing coke imo.
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Coke in London is a massive problem. I worked at a music festival in Essex a couple of weeks ago and the you could cut the Cokey atmosphere with a knife. There were two massive 30+ person knife fights that weekend. Then the locals stormed the gates when security temporary shut the gates to control the aggro still going on inside!!

Never seen nothing like it and I’ve been around forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Thats crazy but I believe it! Luckily in the USA the drug trends at the time are downers, everyone knows about the opiate epidemic but also benzo's are a huge thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72626591


Yeah i get that but the UK is all about the uppers man, these guys are not going out robbing people on Ritalin imo. That would be considered a joke drug by most of them, they are all about the coke for sure.
Good thread though and interesting to see a report blaming one thing when reality is another.... some agenda in play i reckon? - prob cos most of the people involved in the reports and govt etc like a bit a of sniff and all the debauchery that comes with it!
 Quoting: curry nosher


That's cuz Americans are always smokin weed. Smoke weed..drive. Smoke weed...work. Smoke weed...pop a few peeps off. When down ...come down from weed with other stuff. We are already acclimated to it. When we are not smokin weed we are gaping cbd oils...etc.
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Same for the UK bud, but gangs here and in the USA are coke fuelled no?
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Ritalin is speed. It's not the weed causing this. Speed has always made people nuts.
 Quoting: MaxHeadroomIntrusion


hesright

Nice try though, Tess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


Not what Tess is saying mate. Ritalin although is related to speed is VERY mild in dose, however when mixed with weed might make it more psychoactive. I don't really believe Ritalin abuse within gangs is an issue but to blame it on Ritalin when weed is way more psychoactive is nuts lol.

Anyway gangs are doing coke imo.
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Most of the newer generation straibs of cannabis are bred and desugned in israel, the land where intel cpu's were backdoored by design.

Cannabis has been weaponized by the israelis.

resistresistresist
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76711811



Really??

Do you have any links or Info please??

Wow.....

I always thought the whole rave/Ecstasy thing was government co trolled back in the late 80’s onwards- and I was right in the middle of it all. Ecstasy caused terrible mental health problems later on to a LOT of people
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71370922


Easy to blame ecstacy and forgetting that everyone was smoking weed on the come down!

Their is nothing wrong with MDMA imo, it was always down to what else was taken or what it may be cut with such as speed etc that caused the issues you are thinking of, and don't give me the holes in brain crap the govt told you. Sure a little serotonin depletion occurred for a few days but the "long term issues" are govt propaganda.
 Quoting: curry nosher


Lol oh fucking wow, so now MDMA is perfectly fine and it's the weed causing people to go nuts?

Get fucked shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


You clearly do not know what you are on about and are obviously a weed smoker. That's fine and i am not knocking it but most of the mental health problems i have come across (MANY) are in people who smoke all day every day.
Just saying mate and i DO believe it should be legal for all also hf

Fwiw - MDMA is now being considered as a drug to HELP mental health patients!
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Not gonna debate it further as it would be a waste of my time but have a good day and if you can swallow your pride for a moment do a little research into the subject and learn something - good day to you hf

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