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90% Of americans infected with stealth infections

 
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Glyphosate might be a part of it? It kills good bacteria in the gut.

I had horrible Candida overgrowth. You wouldn't believe the stuff that came out of me. Like something out of a nightmare.

It's taken me a few years to get somewhat healthy again. I experienced what could be described as autoimmune disease symptoms for a while. Symmetrical rashes on my wrists, inner elbows, eye sockets, and the fronts of my shoulders.
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I've suffered with severe fibromyalgia 18 years, I don't have much of a life , get no pain meds and no disability benefits. ..I became an herbalist to survive. After many years of research, I found evidence of bio warfare, these diseases were sprayed on the population on purpose...there's a new diet called the Autoimmune Protocol im trying, reportedly its giving people their life back. Toxic fake foods are a contributing factor, the more i avoid junk, bread, etc the better I feel..
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Stay away from gluten.
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It all begins when the gut becomes unhealthy. From foods that have chemicals to sugar to processed everything. It makes the gut unstable which in turn causes digestion issues which long term leads to auto immune issues.
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It's not the gut, that's bull. People have been doing gut diets for years and never improving. No one even talks about stealth infections and no mainstream doctors give any attention to these deadly infections like mycoplasma, the same modified bacteria that causes gulf war illness
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If it is not in their medical books they don't believe it. I told my quack I have an entire body candida infection and I need treatment for it. He's been seeing me for 2 years and never figured shit out and when I told him he laughed and said IMPOSSIBLE. Ya because it wasn't in his medical books so it is impossible. What a dumb dickhead he is.
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Yea something is going on. Last year I just suddenly woke up to what seems to be crohns disease and have been struggling with it since. 28 years old, Mentally and physically fit as can be and then BAM not anymore!!

I know there is a cause, wether it be bacterial or chemical I do not know, but I'm determined to figure it out
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Same. Normal for 35 years
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You have a gastrointestinal disorder?
Did it start last year?

I'm asking because my 40 year old boss was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis around the same time I started showing symptoms, and several other people I know fell ill with other autoimmune type things.

It's all too stramge!!
We have to beat this shit
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literally
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I agree! I had Lyme, bart, babesia, and myco which caused autoimmune issues. I was bedridden/wheelchair almost 6 years...Praise God I am better!!! Diet is key to recovering! I eat meat, fruit, and veggies and water and it is amazing how I feel! I truly am blessed to be here! :-)
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morgellons? Babesia is morgellons
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Glyphosate might be a part of it? It kills good bacteria in the gut.

I had horrible Candida overgrowth. You wouldn't believe the stuff that came out of me. Like something out of a nightmare.

It's taken me a few years to get somewhat healthy again. I experienced what could be described as autoimmune disease symptoms for a while. Symmetrical rashes on my wrists, inner elbows, eye sockets, and the fronts of my shoulders.
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sounds like scabies or morgellons
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It all begins when the gut becomes unhealthy. From foods that have chemicals to sugar to processed everything. It makes the gut unstable which in turn causes digestion issues which long term leads to auto immune issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76125279


It's not the gut, that's bull. People have been doing gut diets for years and never improving. No one even talks about stealth infections and no mainstream doctors give any attention to these deadly infections like mycoplasma, the same modified bacteria that causes gulf war illness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74879460


If it is not in their medical books they don't believe it. I told my quack I have an entire body candida infection and I need treatment for it. He's been seeing me for 2 years and never figured shit out and when I told him he laughed and said IMPOSSIBLE. Ya because it wasn't in his medical books so it is impossible. What a dumb dickhead he is.
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The problem is it's very difficult to fight. The antifungal drugs they have are no more effective than oregano oil. Which is a pretty powerful antifungal, but like the prescription antifungals, it's very dilute by the time it gets to your intestines, and it cannot get to all the nooks and crannies where candida hides.

I think I got a particularly nasty strain of it from a nurse I was dating. She was probably exposed to it in the hospital environment.

A lot of times people are prescribed powerful antibiotics which just makes the problem worse. As it kills off good bacteria but has no effect on candida. Killing off the good bacteria makes it easier for the candida to thrive.

If you have intestinal candida, you really have to stop eating all sugar, even fruit. But diet alone will not get rid of it.
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People eating out of a box or living on carbs and infested with candida are probably plagued by these things. Health cocious people are not affected near as much by these standard societal germs I'll wager.
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It all begins when the gut becomes unhealthy. From foods that have chemicals to sugar to processed everything. It makes the gut unstable which in turn causes digestion issues which long term leads to auto immune issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76125279


It's not the gut, that's bull. People have been doing gut diets for years and never improving. No one even talks about stealth infections and no mainstream doctors give any attention to these deadly infections like mycoplasma, the same modified bacteria that causes gulf war illness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74879460


If it is not in their medical books they don't believe it. I told my quack I have an entire body candida infection and I need treatment for it. He's been seeing me for 2 years and never figured shit out and when I told him he laughed and said IMPOSSIBLE. Ya because it wasn't in his medical books so it is impossible. What a dumb dickhead he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76711079


The problem is it's very difficult to fight. The antifungal drugs they have are no more effective than oregano oil. Which is a pretty powerful antifungal, but like the prescription antifungals, it's very dilute by the time it gets to your intestines, and it cannot get to all the nooks and crannies where candida hides.

I think I got a particularly nasty strain of it from a nurse I was dating. She was probably exposed to it in the hospital environment.

A lot of times people are prescribed powerful antibiotics which just makes the problem worse. As it kills off good bacteria but has no effect on candida. Killing off the good bacteria makes it easier for the candida to thrive.

If you have intestinal candida, you really have to stop eating all sugar, even fruit. But diet alone will not get rid of it.
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tell us more please
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Glyphosate might be a part of it? It kills good bacteria in the gut.

I had horrible Candida overgrowth. You wouldn't believe the stuff that came out of me. Like something out of a nightmare.

It's taken me a few years to get somewhat healthy again. I experienced what could be described as autoimmune disease symptoms for a while. Symmetrical rashes on my wrists, inner elbows, eye sockets, and the fronts of my shoulders.
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sounds like scabies or morgellons
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I think it was related to leaky gut after cleaning out untold candida nastiness (stuff that some people report as "rope worms", but is actually fungal growth).

With leaky gut you get heightened food sensitivities from particles actually making it through the colon wall into your bloodstream.
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It all begins when the gut becomes unhealthy. From foods that have chemicals to sugar to processed everything. It makes the gut unstable which in turn causes digestion issues which long term leads to auto immune issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76125279


It's not the gut, that's bull. People have been doing gut diets for years and never improving. No one even talks about stealth infections and no mainstream doctors give any attention to these deadly infections like mycoplasma, the same modified bacteria that causes gulf war illness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74879460


If it is not in their medical books they don't believe it. I told my quack I have an entire body candida infection and I need treatment for it. He's been seeing me for 2 years and never figured shit out and when I told him he laughed and said IMPOSSIBLE. Ya because it wasn't in his medical books so it is impossible. What a dumb dickhead he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76711079


The problem is it's very difficult to fight. The antifungal drugs they have are no more effective than oregano oil. Which is a pretty powerful antifungal, but like the prescription antifungals, it's very dilute by the time it gets to your intestines, and it cannot get to all the nooks and crannies where candida hides.

I think I got a particularly nasty strain of it from a nurse I was dating. She was probably exposed to it in the hospital environment.

A lot of times people are prescribed powerful antibiotics which just makes the problem worse. As it kills off good bacteria but has no effect on candida. Killing off the good bacteria makes it easier for the candida to thrive.

If you have intestinal candida, you really have to stop eating all sugar, even fruit. But diet alone will not get rid of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76620454


It's incredibly easy to get rid of it by diet alone.



Three days on only celery, then 3 days on celery, wasabi, kimchee, fresh raw turmeric and pickled ginger ONLY. Plenty of water, no other fluids.

Come back in a week and tell me you still have candida, I dare ya.


Of course whales may need to increase treatment time.


Simple fact is, most people think they don't have the willpower to eat this way, and are too stupid to know how great they would feel if they did.
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It's not candida... candida is a byproduct of a immunosupressed system. There is "stealth" bacteria which live and hide intracellularly like mycoplasma, bartonella, Chlamydia and lets not forget the viral aspect. You need to be on long term antibiotics and anti-virals to treat chronic fatigue and other mysterious illnesses
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It's not candida... candida is a byproduct of a immunosupressed system. There is "stealth" bacteria which live and hide intracellularly like mycoplasma, bartonella, Chlamydia and lets not forget the viral aspect. You need to be on long term antibiotics and anti-virals to treat chronic fatigue and other mysterious illnesses
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I think the point being made is that the boxo-carbabots get candida, their immune systems get compromised and the result is the plague of various germs that a health conscious person can quench quickly with a healthy immune system.
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I've been getting hydrating IVs with B vitamins and Glutathione. Was doing 2x per week, now at 1 monthly. Helped wash the crap from my mucus membranes where these viruses stick like thick glue.

There are more IV places opening up, it's like $100 out of pocket per treatment, not covered by insurance. worth it!
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I've been getting hydrating IVs with B vitamins and Glutathione. Was doing 2x per week, now at 1 monthly. Helped wash the crap from my mucus membranes where these viruses stick like thick glue.

There are more IV places opening up, it's like $100 out of pocket per treatment, not covered by insurance. worth it!
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Just think, you could switch to raw vegetables for two weeks at half the cost, save on food and not worry about contamination by a dirty IV!!!
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proooooooooof or it aint tru
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hesright
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proooooooooof or it aint tru
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hesright
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Conclusions

Although it was not possible to determine whether the family’s B. henselae infections were acquired by spider bites or whether the spiders and woodlice were merely accidental hosts, physicians should consider the possibility that B. henselae represents an antecedent infection for GBS, CIDP, and non-specific neurocognitive abnormalities.
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"HHV-6 infects most humans in the first years of life, and produces a lifelong infection thereafter. It is very difficult, therefore, to conclusively demonstrate that such a ubiquitous virus contributes to the pathogenesis of any particular condition. With that caveat, there is growing evidence associating HHV-6 infection with MS, MTLE, encephalitis in both immunocompromised and immunocompetent subjects, and with the CFS. The neuroimaging features of the various associations will lend themselves for earlier detection and prospective clinical trials. As more is learned about the cellular mechanisms of HHV-6 infections, it may be possible to establish more firmly a cause and effect relationship between HHV-6 and CNS disease."
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"HHV-6 infects most humans in the first years of life, and produces a lifelong infection thereafter. It is very difficult, therefore, to conclusively demonstrate that such a ubiquitous virus contributes to the pathogenesis of any particular condition. With that caveat, there is growing evidence associating HHV-6 infection with MS, MTLE, encephalitis in both immunocompromised and immunocompetent subjects, and with the CFS. The neuroimaging features of the various associations will lend themselves for earlier detection and prospective clinical trials. As more is learned about the cellular mechanisms of HHV-6 infections, it may be possible to establish more firmly a cause and effect relationship between HHV-6 and CNS disease."
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and it hides in teeth so when we have a root canal it riles the virus up and we have outbreaks.
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"HHV-6 infects most humans in the first years of life, and produces a lifelong infection thereafter. It is very difficult, therefore, to conclusively demonstrate that such a ubiquitous virus contributes to the pathogenesis of any particular condition. With that caveat, there is growing evidence associating HHV-6 infection with MS, MTLE, encephalitis in both immunocompromised and immunocompetent subjects, and with the CFS. The neuroimaging features of the various associations will lend themselves for earlier detection and prospective clinical trials. As more is learned about the cellular mechanisms of HHV-6 infections, it may be possible to establish more firmly a cause and effect relationship between HHV-6 and CNS disease."
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and it hides in teeth so when we have a root canal it riles the virus up and we have outbreaks.
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Interesting, I didn't know that.
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Low oxygen levels in the cities is causing a lot of our health problems. Oxygen in the cities is about 12% down from 25% or more just 20 years ago. Check it out
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90% percent of americans are infected with some sort of stealth infection like lyme, bartonella, mycoplasma, herpes viruses, etc.

These viruses create autoimmune and chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and other mystery diseases.

But no one seems to want to talk about this.
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you're saying this is something new?

we should all become germ freaks now?
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90% percent of americans are infected with some sort of stealth infection like lyme, bartonella, mycoplasma, herpes viruses, etc.

These viruses create autoimmune and chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and other mystery diseases.

But no one seems to want to talk about this.
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you're saying this is something new?

we should all become germ freaks now?
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no, but if you enjoy living like a slave then thats fine lol
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Yea something is going on. Last year I just suddenly woke up to what seems to be crohns disease and have been struggling with it since. 28 years old, Mentally and physically fit as can be and then BAM not anymore!!

I know there is a cause, wether it be bacterial or chemical I do not know, but I'm determined to figure it out
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Same. Normal for 35 years
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You have a gastrointestinal disorder?
Did it start last year?

I'm asking because my 40 year old boss was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis around the same time I started showing symptoms, and several other people I know fell ill with other autoimmune type things.

It's all too stramge!!
We have to beat this shit
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+1

And then some.
Is it a pattern?
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and this is why 90% of you on here dont make any sense.
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Universal health care and free higher education so we can start having sane conversations and electing better.

But its a rut well have to run through I guess till most of us can't function and all thats left are the ones who can and finally guide us away from dysfunction.
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and this is why 90% of you on here dont make any sense.
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And why is that? Maybe do some research and come back.
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I think multiple people in this thread are right. People get toxic guts overgrown with candida. Which leaves them compromised and unable to fight off other infections.

Viruses are rampant too, we all have lots of them. Some are relatively benign or kept in check by a healthy immune system. But when the immune system is weakened they may cause damage, and symptoms.

One of the better things I've found for cleaning out the guts is Diatomaceous Earth.

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There is good anecdotal evidence of the effectiveness of DE, for candida overgrowth, in particular. Beware of extreme (even dangerous) constipation due to its drying effects. The recommended starting dose—on various threads on this forum and elsewhere—is 1 tbsp. per day, but starting with a very small dose while liberally hydrating might work better for some.
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*concious
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con·scious

adjective: conscious

aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake.

This is one of those words I always have to look up, just to be sure.