Should the USA leave NATO?

We are stronger together.

Yeah. (((NATO))) should be gassed

:hitler:

If America is attacked, her NATO allies step up. The times we now live in are far too precarious to even consider such things. Pay your way.

No, born german, and I would really like to hear an answer.

Nato should be downsized! The Soviet Union broke up 25 years ago! The USA should just put in 2% and call it a day!

Fuck NATO!

HELL NO!

Jesus, are you nuts?! Sounds like Russian pay-ops has fooled you.

well fuck you too you grumpy cunt. Oh, and by the way, stop using our language, our magna carta, and English common law. Get your fucking own shit together!!


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Has it gone to your head? Pride comes before the fall

Putin is and has been the most effective leader in the world for some time.

And “Russian collusion” with Trump is bullshit.

But let’s not be fools. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Russia and the U.S. are still adversarial, as many of our national interests conflict.

Your arrogance is nauseating

(Time to put my clothes on)

Hey Germany....can you comment on this please.... If you put in 1% GDP on your nato defence....How come you are LES than 30% battle ready??? Hmm

This in a nutshell is the state of the German forces... Ready??


As of June 2018

Number of weapon systems ready for action:

Typhoon jets: 39 of 128
Tornado jets: 26 of 93
CH-53 transport helicopters: 16 of 72
NH-90 transport helicopters: 13 of 58
Tigre attack helicopters: 12 of 62
A400M transport aircraft: 3 of 15
Leopard 2 tanks: 105 of 224
Frigates: 5 of 13
Submarines: 0 out of 6 The last one grounded its self


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Last Edited by Cynical Realist on 07/10/2018 09:00 AM

You are deluded

Don’t you anti-NATO idiots understand that it BENEFITS the U.S. to protect Europe? The Marshall Plan was about ensuring that European markets were open and free; not gobbled up by Russia.

Anyway, thank God none of you clowns get to decide. The US leadership is not run by fools. They understand the worth of good allies and not being isolated

Are those Forfathers,,, The UK export back in the 17 hundreds per chance???? Just curious you understand ;)

Yes USA should leave nato. After doing so their arms should be twisted until they pay back the US taxpayer of trillions they owe us. In short of payment their resources should be transferred the the US taxpayer and fines and penalties put on them.

Trump should start his own NATO and call it...TATO...

Now I want french fries.

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Lets face it. The reason why the USA is in NATO is for NATO Countries to be cannon fodder. It gives the USA a little time, to access a military situation, before the nukes start to fly...

If the USA was out of NATO, then the war would start directly on our shores. We would have hardly any time to react and mount a counter offensive...

As it stands now, an invading army would have to use nukes; on the USA; for a MAD scenario to take place...

Russia can't be any longer seen as enemy.
They have their own kind of capitalism now, but they are clearly capitalistic. And I'm sure that russian capitalism is way harder than yours.

They are just new competitors in the market, competitors you don't like because you can't threat them with military power like you do it with all the others.
But being a strong competitor is no reason to see them as enemy or start a war with them.

Yes, please leave the most useless alliance of gay military since WW2 nazism.

Better, NATO should depart the world.

Stupid Europeans still fighting the old cold war against a Soviet communist empire that disappeared almost 30 years ago while they are being invaded from the south by hordes with different values and beliefs who will change the countries for the worse.

Nato became a joke in 2011 Libya. It was a treaty for defense. But that changed when they went on offense... should have never happened.

Time travel?? Crystal Ball??

Nice to know then... that the USA is based on good ol ENGLISH colonialism... isnt it... Im do see where you get your forefather from now...

Uk suck only as much as many parts of the USA... California springs to mind.... Have to ask though... and Im keeping it in the flavour of this thread.... Would you have any part of the UK forces watching your back.... Or would the soyboys of CA be more in keeping??

No, but scale way back into an advisory role and maintain equipment stored in Europe

I think if Russia invades Europe it wil be at the invitation of countries whose own governments brought millions of barbarians inside the gates - not our circus. Not our elephants.

Just to chuck a curve ball in..... I think the Elephant in the room is the Trump and Putin summit. There will be a lot to discuss AND agree.

Given the many two faced leaders in the EU... I think the meeting between the Trump and Putin will be a cakewalk.

Apparently not as many as the flailing left.

Get out of NATO! Form other alliances.