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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76737981 Ireland 07/10/2018 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to speak of your out of control naggers and South Americans raping and murdering you for decades now. That white genocide is far worse than the low numbers of Europe. American hypocrisy know no bounds Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76737981 Still 76.6% white. [link to www.census.gov (secure)] FYI; Ireland's 2016 Census recorded a .3 percent increase in persons born outside the country to 17.3% of the population. [link to www.cso.ie (secure)] Lol a Canadian dares to critic anothers immigration stats [link to www.thestar.com (secure)] We only have small numbers here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76746495 United States 07/10/2018 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course. It's just more anti-American bullshit that rips us off. You ungrateful limeys need to be left out in the wind for a few years. See if you can weather the storm. Quoting: Chip Not so fast chip..... Dont confuse us Limeys with the rest of the NATO alliance that spends under the 2% of GDP.... We are second to Greece.... YES fucking Greece ffs only 2 over 2%GDP Go pick on Germany.... who are only at <30 battle ready.. [link to ec.europa.eu] Meh... fuck you all. You let the London goat fucking mayor make fun of our president. You can all eat shit. Hahahahahahahahaha |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76752835 United States 07/10/2018 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not until those blood sucking pussies Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76751675 pay us the TRILLIONS of dollars it cost us to "defend" their worthless asses. THEN LEAVE AND DON'T LOOK BACK. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER again get involved with those stinking sons-of-bitches, who our ancestors were smart enough to leave in the dust. ...and PRAY that after the muslims kill them all, Russia nukes Europe back to the stone age. Your pathetic wet dreams will never happen. America is far more fucking unhinged. That country is about to fuck8ng explode. Civil war 2 Must depend on where you live. Here in the West Virginia Mountains (at least where I live) it is like Heaven on Earth. Zero crime. and I mean ZERO. Everone is heavily armed and there is NO LAW ENFORCEMENT needed or wanted. The last crime anyone remembers is when someone hired a roofer from the nearest town (40+ miles away) He looked in the window, saw a rifle, and stole it. That was about 35 years ago. BTW, the cops (also 40+ miles away, caught him, jailed him, and returned the rifle) The black cities can burn to the ground for all I care. (America would only be stronger for it) Anyway, in civilized America the only explosions you will hear, you just heard a few days ago, July 4th, when we shed your stinking continent, many moons ago. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67651281 Canada 07/10/2018 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not until those blood sucking pussies Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76751675 pay us the TRILLIONS of dollars it cost us to "defend" their worthless asses. THEN LEAVE AND DON'T LOOK BACK. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER again get involved with those stinking sons-of-bitches, who our ancestors were smart enough to leave in the dust. ...and PRAY that after the muslims kill them all, Russia nukes Europe back to the stone age. Your pathetic wet dreams will never happen. America is far more fucking unhinged. That country is about to fuck8ng explode. Civil war 2 Must depend on where you live. Here in the West Virginia Mountains (at least where I live) it is like Heaven on Earth. Zero crime. and I mean ZERO. Everone is heavily armed and there is NO LAW ENFORCEMENT needed or wanted. The last crime anyone remembers is when someone hired a roofer from the nearest town (40+ miles away) He looked in the window, saw a rifle, and stole it. That was about 35 years ago. BTW, the cops (also 40+ miles away, caught him, jailed him, and returned the rifle) The black cities can burn to the ground for all I care. (America would only be stronger for it) Anyway, in civilized America the only explosions you will hear, you just heard a few days ago, July 4th, when we shed your stinking continent, many moons ago. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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SilverPatriot User ID: 6366763 United States 07/10/2018 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes Nato serves no good to us and we should defund the UN and charge them rent. Last Edited by SilverPatriot - Memorial on 07/10/2018 03:03 PM |
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ThereRMeds4That User ID: 76706035 United States 07/10/2018 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to speak of your out of control naggers and South Americans raping and murdering you for decades now. That white genocide is far worse than the low numbers of Europe. American hypocrisy know no bounds Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76737981 Still 76.6% white. [link to www.census.gov (secure)] FYI; Ireland's 2016 Census recorded a .3 percent increase in persons born outside the country to 17.3% of the population. [link to www.cso.ie (secure)] Lol a Canadian dares to critic anothers immigration stats [link to www.thestar.com (secure)] We only have small numbers here. Except I'm not Canadian, though apparently my WiFi is registered as such. My Irish (O Dubhshlaine) ancestors left Ireland in the late 1600's for the New World. My Swiss Anabaptist ancestors also arrived in the US in the 1600's fleeing persecution. Some Shepherds remain hidden from their sheep. |
NILAW User ID: 72066783 United States 07/10/2018 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked earlier in this thread if Russia is still a threat? If NATO were to dissolve what would Putin do – does he want to rebuild the Soviet empire and would he do so by invading countries like Poland? The first article was written back when Trump was a candidate and said that NATO is obsolete. It is very anti-Trump and ends with if Trump continues with this position “he should be disqualified to become president”. Of course, that is about as stupid as it gets; he cannot be disqualified as a candidate for president for a position he takes! The author also cites The Telegraph for the statement that it “is a known fact that Putin has privately threaten that if given the opportunity he would invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic states”, hardly a reliable source! Therefore, I took this article with a grain of salt. The other 2 articles are about Panetta and a former head of the British army saying that Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet empire, which Putin has denied. [link to medium.com (secure)] [link to www.newsweek.com] [link to www.usnews.com (secure)] Would NATO dissolve if the US leaves? Not necessarily; it would be far weaker and it would take many years to even get close to its current strength with the US as a member. The most significant impact of NATO is not that it will counter a potential Russian invasion of say Poland; it is that is a DETERRENT to potential Russian aggression. Do I believe that Putin would actually invade Poland, Romania and/or the Baltic states if NATO dissolves? Maybe or maybe not; it would be very dangerous for Russia to do so, but Putin is ex-KGB and to me that says something. The point is that the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact is long gone, but the assumption that Russia is not a threat at all if NATO is dissolved (or at least seriously weakened without the US) may not be something that is true and we should be willing to bet on! Should the US just take the position that is not our problem? The last time the US was in an isolationist mode a certain event called World War 2 happened. After WW 2 the US became the leader of the free world; like it or not that carries certain responsibilities. No, that does not include the US carrying the disproportionate burden for defense, so I absolutely agree that all the other NATO members must pay their fair share and prepare so that NATO is a credible deterrent. If other countries that are directly threatened by possible Russian aggression are not willing to pony up then it is not the responsibility of the US to continue to make up that shortfall in money and equipment/troops. Let’s not forget that NATO should be looking at other roles (such as anti-terrorism) as Trump has stated. Bottom line; I agree with Trump that NATO is not obsolete, but is it way past time that all NATO members pay their fair share now and take defense seriously. If not, then those countries need to be kicked-out of or the US leaves NATO. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75982363 United States 07/10/2018 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be brutality honest, At one point Europe needed us to be there. Now were just being used to subsidize their military budgets. Is this how friends behave In the twenty first century?. We have problems as well. Do the same people give the slightest damn about them?. You have In Western Europe had a long run of us securing your security. Take responsibility for your own safety. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75332187 United States 07/10/2018 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell yes we should leave nato. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74322544 Russia isn't a threat to the USA. And those countries they are a threat to don't seem to take russia being a threat seriously enough to pay for their own military or even ours... so why are we? that's just stupid. NATO was created in 1949 to provide security against the Soviet Union. European Nations, along with the United States and Canada feared that the Soviets would take advantage of the power vacuum created by WWII and invade Europe to advance the spread of communism. Since the Soviet Union was officially dismantled in 1991, and since most of Europe has been overrun with communism all on its very own, it's time for NATO to be abolished. Maybe a new treaty of alliance new could be forged in its place , but far too much money is being churned out to fund a treaty that has long passed its expiration date. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75332187 United States 07/10/2018 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course. It's just more anti-American bullshit that rips us off. You ungrateful limeys need to be left out in the wind for a few years. See if you can weather the storm. Quoting: Chip Beware of the Russian trolls They are pushing a kgb agenda of leaving NATO and civil war in America 2 things Putin wants bad American citizens have been asking for a review of NATO for many, many years - long before the Russian bot boogeyman was invented by the enemies of the American people. Abolish NATO, and watch Russia storm your nations and take them for their own. And before you welcome this idea, know that they most likely will not do this peacefully. Then we'll see who the real "Russian bots" are. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76752903 Ireland 07/10/2018 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not until those blood sucking pussies Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76751675 pay us the TRILLIONS of dollars it cost us to "defend" their worthless asses. THEN LEAVE AND DON'T LOOK BACK. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER again get involved with those stinking sons-of-bitches, who our ancestors were smart enough to leave in the dust. ...and PRAY that after the muslims kill them all, Russia nukes Europe back to the stone age. Your pathetic wet dreams will never happen. America is far more fucking unhinged. That country is about to fuck8ng explode. Civil war 2 Must depend on where you live. Here in the West Virginia Mountains (at least where I live) it is like Heaven on Earth. Zero crime. and I mean ZERO. Everone is heavily armed and there is NO LAW ENFORCEMENT needed or wanted. The last crime anyone remembers is when someone hired a roofer from the nearest town (40+ miles away) He looked in the window, saw a rifle, and stole it. That was about 35 years ago. BTW, the cops (also 40+ miles away, caught him, jailed him, and returned the rifle) The black cities can burn to the ground for all I care. (America would only be stronger for it) Anyway, in civilized America the only explosions you will hear, you just heard a few days ago, July 4th, when we shed your stinking continent, many moons ago. Your awash in Heroin and Meth. |
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