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Ozric  User ID: 72213255 United States07/10/2018 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Swedish. And I'm not the least but self-righteous, I just recognize evil when I see it. he misspoke,,, he meant self righteous indignation Self Righteous Indignation "Righteous" means acting in accord with divine or moral law or free from guilt or sin. It may also refer to a morally right or justifiable decision or action or to an action which arises from an outraged sense of justice or morality. (See third paragraph below) "Indignation" is anger aroused by something unjust, mean, or unworthy. The Standard Dictionary describes indignation as a "feeling involving anger mingled with contempt or disgust".[1] add in some pride/fulness Pride PRIDE, noun 1. Inordinate self-esteem; an unreasonable conceit of one's own superiority in talents, beauty, wealth, accomplishments, rank or elevation in office, which manifests itself in lofty airs, distance, reserve, and often in contempt of others. Martial pride looks down on industry. PRIDE goeth before destruction. Proverbs 16:18. PRIDE that dines on vanity, sups on contempt. All pride is abject and mean. Those that walk in pride he is able to abase. Daniel 4:37. 2. Insolence; rude treatment of others; insolent exultation. That hardly we escap'd the pride of France. 3. Generous elation of heart; a noble self-esteem springing from a consciousness of worth. The honest pride of conscious virtue. 4. Elevation; loftiness. A falcon tow'ring in her pride of place. 5. Decoration; ornament; beauty displayed. Whose lofty trees, clad with summer's pride Be his this sword Whose ivory sheath, inwrought with curious pride Adds graceful terror to the wearer's side. 6. Splendid show; ostentation. Is this array, the war of either side Through Athens pass'd with military pride 7. That of which men are proud; that which excites boasting. I will cut off the pride of the Philistines. Zechariah 9:6. Zephaniah 3:11. 8. Excitement of the sexual appetite in a female beast. 9. Proud persons. Psalms 36:11. PRIDE, verb transitive With the reciprocal pronoun, to pride one's self, to indulge pride; to take pride; to value one's self; to gratify self-esteem. They pride themselves in their wealth, dress or equipage. He prides himself in his achievements. Neither is accurate. Your opinion wouldn't matter much on the subject anyway. This are facts from the dictionary and these terms are easy to identify because you are for whatever reason exemplifying them... So why did the Pharisee demand Christ dead choosing a criminal over Jesus for release? What sent them to that final solution (so they thought?) No one from your camp wants to answer that ... I mean the whole two of ya that are battling this I mean. All I am saying is Jesus is also God... I dont comprehend how its possible , I also dont understand your vitriol , but evidently you do and think its cool.. You can have the last word ... Last Edited by Ozric on 07/10/2018 09:38 PM I do exist, I'm pretty sure :) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76685084 United States07/10/2018 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's quite possible...even probable...that the phrase means to say "his name shall be called by humans"...which is EXACTLY what is happening these days. Quoting: TheLordsServant This person has just added to the Scripture. 'Possible, probable'.....then inserts their imagination to change the explicit meaning of the text. This person is telling you what the Bible "means" to say, even though it does not say it. Basically: Well, it does not say it, but it "means" to say....... See: Genesis 3 for the first twisting of Scripture. I didn't add one dang thing you idiot. It's called....discernmemt. Show me ONE place ANYWHERE in the Bible that ANY of those terms are used? Isaiah gave a prophecy about FUTURE history. Who are the ONLY ones in HISTORY that have called Jesus by those terms? Humans. These are your words: "It's quite possible...even probable...that the phrase means to say "his name shall be called by humans"...which is EXACTLY what is happening these days." That means this: Here is what the Bible says word for word, BUT, what it really meant to say is.........(insert your imagination here) Sorry. But we are never, ever, ever to add our imagination to the Word of God. We are never to take the text and change it around to mean something other than what it says. Here are the very first words of Satan to Eve: Hath God said? Nope. Nope, and nope. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76647994 United States07/10/2018 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This verse is the biggest stumbling block for those who want to separate God from Himself, who is Jesus. Quoting: Laughing Falcon For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. It's very clear. I do not have to explain how clear that is. ^^^ Watch the mental gymnastics that are needed to get around that verse. All kinds of excuses like the language, linguistics, "meanings", who wrote it, mistakes in the context, etc. The name that they truly stumble on is "The everlasting Father." Well, knock yourselves out trying to 'debunk' God's own Words, if you care to. I think that is not a good idea personally. Not that anyone cares what I think. Nonetheless, do as thou wilt. Did that ^^^ seem to be the case? I just read the thread and it appears that is exactly what happened. There is just no way around that verse. It's not even a messianic prophecy, it's historical, written in past tense, and it's about Hezekiah. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] You have already been refuted. You have nothing. There you go again with your YouTube salvation. Hezekiah was not "everlasting" he's dead. Now Jesus on the other hand is everlasting. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74960594  Sweden07/10/2018 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74960594 Swedish. And I'm not the least but self-righteous, I just recognize evil when I see it. he misspoke,,, he meant self righteous indignation Self Righteous Indignation "Righteous" means acting in accord with divine or moral law or free from guilt or sin. It may also refer to a morally right or justifiable decision or action or to an action which arises from an outraged sense of justice or morality. (See third paragraph below) "Indignation" is anger aroused by something unjust, mean, or unworthy. The Standard Dictionary describes indignation as a "feeling involving anger mingled with contempt or disgust".[1] add in some pride/fulness Pride PRIDE, noun 1. Inordinate self-esteem; an unreasonable conceit of one's own superiority in talents, beauty, wealth, accomplishments, rank or elevation in office, which manifests itself in lofty airs, distance, reserve, and often in contempt of others. Martial pride looks down on industry. PRIDE goeth before destruction. Proverbs 16:18. PRIDE that dines on vanity, sups on contempt. All pride is abject and mean. Those that walk in pride he is able to abase. Daniel 4:37. 2. Insolence; rude treatment of others; insolent exultation. That hardly we escap'd the pride of France. 3. Generous elation of heart; a noble self-esteem springing from a consciousness of worth. The honest pride of conscious virtue. 4. Elevation; loftiness. A falcon tow'ring in her pride of place. 5. Decoration; ornament; beauty displayed. Whose lofty trees, clad with summer's pride Be his this sword Whose ivory sheath, inwrought with curious pride Adds graceful terror to the wearer's side. 6. Splendid show; ostentation. Is this array, the war of either side Through Athens pass'd with military pride 7. That of which men are proud; that which excites boasting. I will cut off the pride of the Philistines. Zechariah 9:6. Zephaniah 3:11. 8. Excitement of the sexual appetite in a female beast. 9. Proud persons. Psalms 36:11. PRIDE, verb transitive With the reciprocal pronoun, to pride one's self, to indulge pride; to take pride; to value one's self; to gratify self-esteem. They pride themselves in their wealth, dress or equipage. He prides himself in his achievements. Neither is accurate. Your opinion wouldn't matter much on the subject anyway. This are facts from the dictionary and these terms are easy to identify because you are for whatever reason exemplifying them... So why did the Pharisee demand Christ dead choosing a criminal over Jesus for release? What sent them to that final solution (so they thought?) No one from your camp wants to answer that ... I mean the whole two of ya that are battling this I mean. All I am saying is Jesus is also God... I dont comprehend how its possible , I also dont understand your vitriol , but evidently you do and think its cool.. You can have the last word ... Right, you don't comprehend it, but that is the idol you've chosen. That is your confession. You don't have the same God as him. But you're still content. Gn. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76685084 United States07/10/2018 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This verse is the biggest stumbling block for those who want to separate God from Himself, who is Jesus. Quoting: Laughing Falcon For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. It's very clear. I do not have to explain how clear that is. ^^^ Watch the mental gymnastics that are needed to get around that verse. All kinds of excuses like the language, linguistics, "meanings", who wrote it, mistakes in the context, etc. The name that they truly stumble on is "The everlasting Father." Well, knock yourselves out trying to 'debunk' God's own Words, if you care to. I think that is not a good idea personally. Not that anyone cares what I think. Nonetheless, do as thou wilt. Did that ^^^ seem to be the case? I just read the thread and it appears that is exactly what happened. There is just no way around that verse. It's not even a messianic prophecy, it's historical, written in past tense, and it's about Hezekiah. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] You have already been refuted. You have nothing. You folks see this? ^^^ Claims that the verse in Isaiah is about Hezekiah! Oh my gosh. Can you believe that? According to that poster Hezekiah is "The mighty God, The everlasting Father and The Prince of Peace." Wow, that is reeeeealy stretching the mental gymnastics. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74960594 Sweden07/10/2018 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This verse is the biggest stumbling block for those who want to separate God from Himself, who is Jesus. Quoting: Laughing Falcon For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. It's very clear. I do not have to explain how clear that is. ^^^ Watch the mental gymnastics that are needed to get around that verse. All kinds of excuses like the language, linguistics, "meanings", who wrote it, mistakes in the context, etc. The name that they truly stumble on is "The everlasting Father." Well, knock yourselves out trying to 'debunk' God's own Words, if you care to. I think that is not a good idea personally. Not that anyone cares what I think. Nonetheless, do as thou wilt. Did that ^^^ seem to be the case? I just read the thread and it appears that is exactly what happened. There is just no way around that verse. It's not even a messianic prophecy, it's historical, written in past tense, and it's about Hezekiah. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] You have already been refuted. You have nothing. There you go again with your YouTube salvation. Hezekiah was not "everlasting" he's dead. Now Jesus on the other hand is everlasting. It doesn't say everlasting, polytheist, it says olam. And Jesus died. He didn't even possess intrinsic life in himself, it was granted to him only eternal, and Most High God. For as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has granted the Son to have life in Himself. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76753534 United States07/10/2018 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Swedish, is this you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76753534 " for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." Who does this more than you? Your Jewish partner in crime perhaps? [link to vignette.wikia.nocookie.net (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74960594 Sweden07/10/2018 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This verse is the biggest stumbling block for those who want to separate God from Himself, who is Jesus. Quoting: Laughing Falcon For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. It's very clear. I do not have to explain how clear that is. ^^^ Watch the mental gymnastics that are needed to get around that verse. All kinds of excuses like the language, linguistics, "meanings", who wrote it, mistakes in the context, etc. The name that they truly stumble on is "The everlasting Father." Well, knock yourselves out trying to 'debunk' God's own Words, if you care to. I think that is not a good idea personally. Not that anyone cares what I think. Nonetheless, do as thou wilt. Did that ^^^ seem to be the case? I just read the thread and it appears that is exactly what happened. There is just no way around that verse. It's not even a messianic prophecy, it's historical, written in past tense, and it's about Hezekiah. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] You have already been refuted. You have nothing. You folks see this? ^^^ Claims that the verse in Isaiah is about Hezekiah! Oh my gosh. Can you believe that? According to that poster Hezekiah is "The mighty God, The everlasting Father and The Prince of Peace." Wow, that is reeeeealy stretching the mental gymnastics. Do you even know what the theophoric meaning if his name is, moron? Do you know what olam, el, gibor means? It's still written in past tense. It's a willful mistranslation by willful liars. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76753192 Ireland07/10/2018 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numbers 23:19 King James Version (KJV) 19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76676110  Australia07/10/2018 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He said so in His book silly rabbit, the cool thing is he says the same thing to everyone who reads it... and different things to those who are either ignorant or willfully in defiance... ya know those children of disobedience types... Quoting: Ozric Aka trinitarians. Christians obey God's commands and do what pleases Him: We receive from him whatever we ask, because we obey his commands and do what pleases him. What he commands is that we believe in his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as Christ commanded us. (1 John 3:22-23) Just as Christ commanded us: Jesus answered, “What God wants you to do is to believe in the one he sent.” (John 6:29) And now I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. (John 13:34) “If you love me, you will obey my commandments. (John 14:15) My commandment is this: love one another, just as I love you. (John 15:12) This, then, is what I command you: love one another. (John 15:17) Obey God's commands. Obey Jesus's commands. They are the same. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76647994 United States07/10/2018 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Laughing Falcon Did that ^^^ seem to be the case? I just read the thread and it appears that is exactly what happened. There is just no way around that verse. It's not even a messianic prophecy, it's historical, written in past tense, and it's about Hezekiah. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] You have already been refuted. You have nothing. There you go again with your YouTube salvation. Hezekiah was not "everlasting" he's dead. Now Jesus on the other hand is everlasting. It doesn't say everlasting, polytheist, it says olam. And Jesus died. He didn't even possess intrinsic life in himself, it was granted to him only eternal, and Most High God. For as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has granted the Son to have life in Himself. No you Pharaciee. The orginal word transcribed is the Hebrew word "ad" and means properly, a (peremptory) terminus, i.e. (by implication) duration, in the sense of advance or perpetuity (substantially as a noun, either with or without a preposition):—eternity, ever(-lasting, -more), old, perpetually, world without end. You are just like the Jehovah's Witnesses and like to rewrite scripture to fit your propaganda. |
