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TinfoilHatMan  User ID: 1607517 United States07/12/2018 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The aruememt isn't whether it's alive or not. The argument is when is it a human life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23221708 Whenever I cut my finger I'm murdering thousands of organisms. So when is a fetus considered human? When it can survive on it's own? When it has a heartbeat? When it's a collection of microscopic cells at conception? When is it considered human? Immediately. Instantly upon conception it becomes a unique DNA sequence never before seen and which will never occur again. It's as unique as you and I and it deserves every chance to exist as you and I have. In fact, it deserves to be protected at all costs while it's fragile existence cannot survive on it's own. It's a unique human life. How can you even consider destroying it's absolute unique existence before it's ever had a chance to live. This is it's only chance ever. How dare us. So in the case of severe risk of death of the woman, she should die, otherwise she becomes a murderer? And if it's known the baby would suffer a terrible condition like the "inside out" babies seen in India, and other conditions, it should be allowed to suffer and the woman forced to knowingly birth a child to a short life of suffering, else she's a murderer? I'm interested if people honestly believe there are no circumstances where termination is the best decision. Anywhere 'unborn baby is used', just replace it with 6yr old child. Would a mother kill her 6yr old child to save her own life? Almost 100% of the time the answer is no. Would a woman want you to abort her unborn babies life to save her own? In most cases no. You then go on to mercy killing... that's a moral decision. If life is excruciating pain and we don't have the technology to make the babies life tolerable, all we have left is mercy. That decision is a selfless one, not a selfish one. |
| TinfoilHatMan User ID: 1607517 United States07/12/2018 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever happened to instant love of the baby growing inside and the overwhelming maternal instincts? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76170368 And when did so many people become so cold, irresponsible, unemotional and totally selfish? Propaganda 24/7 THIS!! You people and your absolute selfishness. If you had an actual child you'd understand. Almost all REAL parent's cannot conceive abortion. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76757913  Canada07/12/2018 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the first time ever,’ it can be scientifically proven that a preborn baby detects and responds to sound at 16 weeks gestation” or when the baby is only 4.3 inches long. Naturally, the Institut Marquès now wanted to know which kind of musical sounds these children preferred. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73308476 [link to www.liveaction.org (secure)] The answer is classical music, and Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Since the Roe v Wade disgrace, there have been more than 60 MILLION abortions in our country. The spilled blood of these innocents cry out for Justice. God is watching us, and he isn't happy. replaced by low grade and ungrateful immigrants that turned the USA left and are plotting to overthrow the country. |
| gr8skott User ID: 75914908 United States07/12/2018 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914908 People can have a Teratoma tumor which has different DNA than the body. Doctors remove them all the time. I can assure you that no matter how many times you repeat your values to me, I still believe that humans should have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies including removing a parasitic mass. You were once a "parasitic mass". You must carry very low regard for your own life. I am fairly certain that you have depression, due to your perspective on life itself. Because the purpose of life IS life. And you think nothing of dedtroying it. A very bold statement to claim you understand the purpose of life. It’s also very bold to make presumptions about what or how others think. You cannot ever understand the inner workings of anybody but yourself. That’s why I don’t agree with being forced to adhere to another persons moral standards. If you don’t want to perform or receive an abortion, by all means don’t. If you’d like to own a dog, by all means do that. We don’t have to agree or even understand each other’s point of view to coexist. Still didn't address the depression issue, did you? Confess. Because I want to defend a human's right to make decisions about their own body does not mean I am going to agree with every decision each human makes for themselves. Again, you have no concept of what another person is thinking or feeling and no way to experience things from their perspective. Because I understand this, it allows me to compassionately tolerate other people (like you), and their perspectives. |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the Planned Parenthood shills this morning? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73308476 Where is your outrage that you should be able to murder a child at any age? What about when the preborn is negro or mixed, you find when they can first hear sound so precious then? Why wouldn’t I? A precious child is an innocent child no matter their color. Get over yourself. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76758350 United States07/12/2018 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76585526 You were once a "parasitic mass". You must carry very low regard for your own life. I am fairly certain that you have depression, due to your perspective on life itself. Because the purpose of life IS life. And you think nothing of dedtroying it. A very bold statement to claim you understand the purpose of life. It’s also very bold to make presumptions about what or how others think. You cannot ever understand the inner workings of anybody but yourself. That’s why I don’t agree with being forced to adhere to another persons moral standards. If you don’t want to perform or receive an abortion, by all means don’t. If you’d like to own a dog, by all means do that. We don’t have to agree or even understand each other’s point of view to coexist. Still didn't address the depression issue, did you? Confess. Because I want to defend a human's right to make decisions about their own body does not mean I am going to agree with every decision each human makes for themselves. Again, you have no concept of what another person is thinking or feeling and no way to experience things from their perspective. Because I understand this, it allows me to compassionately tolerate other people (like you), and their perspectives. AGAIN UNLESS SHE IS RAPED.. SHE MAKES THE DECISION BEFORE SHE SPREADS HER LEGS... NOT AFTER THE FACT. |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75960888 Yes, exactly. And we mow our lawns, and chop down trees merely because they are an inconvenience. Perfect comparison. Blah blah blah This is your "progressive" abortion demigod. I think that a woman should have every right to destroy any part of her body that she wants to, and as long as it’s still attached to her via the umbilical cord it’s still a part of her body to do with what she sees fit. Plain and simple. Your body, your choice. If you have certain values, by all means follow your values. The government forcing somebody else’s values on folks doesn’t sit right with me. Wrong - separate DNA proves it is not part of her body, just dependent on her body.  "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong - separate DNA proves it is not part of her body, just dependent on her body. People can have a Teratoma tumor which has different DNA than the body. Doctors remove them all the time. I can assure you that no matter how many times you repeat your values to me, I still believe that humans should have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies including removing a parasitic mass. Seriously? You are comparing a tumor to a child? You are sick.  "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong - separate DNA proves it is not part of her body, just dependent on her body. Quoting: No Dhimmi +++ People can have a Teratoma tumor which has different DNA than the body. Doctors remove them all the time. I can assure you that no matter how many times you repeat your values to me, I still believe that humans should have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies including removing a parasitic mass. A tumor does not have creative thought, will never develop into anything other than a parasite living off a host. It's unique DNA is a proven mutation of your own. It is you, just a defective form that has enough function still intact to replicate itself as you do. A tumor is in no way comparable to a human embryo created by two unique people which will one day be it's own unique being with thoughts, ideas, feelings, fears, love and emotion. Individual humans are neither unique nor special. There are more than 7.5 billion living humans on this planet. 10 out of 10 of them will die. I still think a woman should have the right to smash her newborn infant to death with a brick if she wants to, as long as it's still attached via umbilical cord and that placenta is still inside her. Which would guarantee the death of the woman. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Your "science" (i.e. propaganda) is weak. Most abortions abort nothing but clumps of cells, so SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY AND GIVE THEM WOMEN CONTROL OVER THEIR OWN BODIES INSTEAD OF ACTING LIKE A FUCKING SLAVEMASTER FOR AN ENTIRE GENDER!  "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong - separate DNA proves it is not part of her body, just dependent on her body. Quoting: No Dhimmi +++ People can have a Teratoma tumor which has different DNA than the body. Doctors remove them all the time. I can assure you that no matter how many times you repeat your values to me, I still believe that humans should have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies including removing a parasitic mass. You were once a "parasitic mass". You must carry very low regard for your own life. I am fairly certain that you have depression, due to your perspective on life itself. Because the purpose of life IS life. And you think nothing of dedtroying it. A very bold statement to claim you understand the purpose of life. It’s also very bold to make presumptions about what or how others think. You cannot ever understand the inner workings of anybody but yourself. That’s why I don’t agree with being forced to adhere to another persons moral standards. If you don’t want to perform or receive an abortion, by all means don’t. If you’d like to own a dog, by all means do that. We don’t have to agree or even understand each other’s point of view to coexist. There is no reason we cannot coexist, but please, do NOT compare someone getting an abortion to someone getting a dog. That is beyond insulting to all involved in this conversation. Thanks. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever happened to instant love of the baby growing inside and the overwhelming maternal instincts? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76170368 That’s a great question. I was in love the second I saw the first US and the heartbeat. I cannot speak for everyone but for me, it was love at first beat. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the first time ever,’ it can be scientifically proven that a preborn baby detects and responds to sound at 16 weeks gestation” or when the baby is only 4.3 inches long. Naturally, the Institut Marquès now wanted to know which kind of musical sounds these children preferred. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73308476 [link to www.liveaction.org (secure)] The answer is classical music, and Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. and as my first born grew inside of me.. she also DANCED to her favorites...  Last Edited by Esoterica on 07/12/2018 10:17 PM "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever happened to instant love of the baby growing inside and the overwhelming maternal instincts? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76170368 And when did so many people become so cold, irresponsible, unemotional and totally selfish? Great question. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Chickens react to, and enjoy music, they like Mozart and Operas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5880246 It doesn't make them contributing members of society. . I'll have to remember those special words of wisdom the next time my friend is crying her eyes out after her 2nd miscarriage out of 3 with only 1 live birth. Heck. Because "it" is not a contributing member of society, why chance it? Just in case she gets pregnant again, forget the music and celebration. She ought to just go ahead and abort the next one just so she can avoid the pain and tears. Oh, I forgot. Pain and tears are usually associated with abortion as well. Never mind.  "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States07/12/2018 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The aruememt isn't whether it's alive or not. The argument is when is it a human life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23221708 Whenever I cut my finger I'm murdering thousands of organisms. So when is a fetus considered human? When it can survive on it's own? When it has a heartbeat? When it's a collection of microscopic cells at conception? When is it considered human? Immediately. Instantly upon conception it becomes a unique DNA sequence never before seen and which will never occur again. It's as unique as you and I and it deserves every chance to exist as you and I have. In fact, it deserves to be protected at all costs while it's fragile existence cannot survive on it's own. It's a unique human life. How can you even consider destroying it's absolute unique existence before it's ever had a chance to live. This is it's only chance ever. How dare us. So in the case of severe risk of death of the woman, she should die, otherwise she becomes a murderer? And if it's known the baby would suffer a terrible condition like the "inside out" babies seen in India, and other conditions, it should be allowed to suffer and the woman forced to knowingly birth a child to a short life of suffering, else she's a murderer? I'm interested if people honestly believe there are no circumstances where termination is the best decision. I personally, 100% agree that there are extenuating circumstances where terminating a pregnancy may be needed. NECESSARY. What I’m pissed about is the astounding numbers of women who use abortion as a birth control method. That is not okay. And don’t even respond saying “oh, there is no one that does that.” Bull. PP had made it very convenient and FREE. Do your research and you will see just how many women have had multiple abortions. I can feel for someone who feels there is no other option. Although there are. But the same woman getting her 5th free abortion??? All I have to say is WTF. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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