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I read yesterday she has 10 yachts. 10. And this one..just got a scratch on it.

How does anyone with 10 yachts, understand the intricacies of education of a growing lower class?

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Wasn't Amway a pyramid scheme?

Oh the irony..
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it is and it isn't.. i know plenty of people that are making six figures that started out at the bottom. you have to be a sales man and find your market. amway is huge
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Can you explain 'is and isn't' a bit better? I didn't even know Amway, was still around. I thought it was a known pyramid scheme.

Which makes perfect sense of all this.
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Her degree is in economics and she is heavily invested in companies who profit from education.
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And GLP members play the BTC cryptocurrency for the conspiracy against big banks, we all are self-serving.
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Yes, we are.
Did you get that yacht today? I just so happen to be on vacation.
boat lol
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And GLP members play the BTC cryptocurrency for the conspiracy against big banks, we all are self-serving.
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Yes, we are.
Did you get that yacht today? I just so happen to be on vacation.
boat lol
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LOL. No, I have to work and hopefully I'll have a vacation when I die. That's looking a bit slim now if there's an online vote. hf
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Well said, another way to look at it is if you have just $2,220 to your name, you're still richer than half of the world's citizens
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I've been so poor, the only thing of value was my pride to ask for help. Damn that was a tough field to plow for 30 years.

I never asked for any help from my family at all. Then a friend heard that a man with a gun ran through my apartment yard shooting and killing people across the street, and that friend moved me to a safer place. I tried to give someone money who was homeless, and they got furious.

So, it's not about charity, it's about perspective and kindness. Some of the most charitable people are spiteful.
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Charity is part of doing business when your wealthy.
Tax relief.
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i"m sure Betsy really has a lot in common with those kids she's scecretarying her ass off for each day. Makes me sick.Idol1
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For years I used the Abracadabra method for paying bills and handling money.
I went to a second hand store and bought a tall black top hat.


At the end of the month I wave a wand,( Came with the hat), over the top after loading all the bills in it, and pull one at a time out until the money from my paycheck was gone.

I never touched my retirement. That's OK though the Stock market scam took care of that in 2008 and 2012.

I still kept about half of what I should have had if the Stock Brokers had not lied when they said ,"look at any 20 year period, and the Stock Market has beaten by far any investment you can make!".

Hell, even Real Estate took a dump under Obummer. The only people never touched by real debt are the rich. Fact!


Even when Trump took a beating in 1999 the Banks were there with open arms.

It is a rigged system even today. Nom matter who's in charge. Always has been always will be.
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why can't the Teachers have $40 Million Dollar yachts too?
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I'm pretty sure any teacher with a billionaire daddy and a billionaire husband can buy any yacht they want, even if it is a 163 ft, $40 million yacht like this woman.

Not sure what teachers have to do with it anyway. She sure didn't buy that yacht on salary.
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For years I used the Abracadabra method for paying bills and handling money.
I went to a second hand store and bought a tall black top hat.


At the end of the month I wave a wand,( Came with the hat), over the top after loading all the bills in it, and pull one at a time out until the money from my paycheck was gone.

I never touched my retirement. That's OK though the Stock market scam took care of that in 2008 and 2012.

I still kept about half of what I should have had if the Stock Brokers had not lied when they said ,"look at any 20 year period, and the Stock Market has beaten by far any investment you can make!".

Hell, even Real Estate took a dump under Obummer. The only people never touched by real debt are the rich. Fact!


Even when Trump took a beating in 1999 the Banks were there with open arms.

It is a rigged system even today. Nom matter who's in charge. Always has been always will be.
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why can't the Teachers have $40 Million Dollar yachts too?
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I'm pretty sure any teacher with a billionaire daddy and a billionaire husband can buy any yacht they want, even if it is a 163 ft, $40 million yacht like this woman.

Not sure what teachers have to do with it anyway. She sure didn't buy that yacht on salary.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck


do teachers still draw unemployment compensation
during the Summer time/
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Is it up for sale yet?
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i"m sure Betsy really has a lot in common with those kids she's scecretarying her ass off for each day. Makes me sick.Idol1
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Yea, and I'm sure all the sloppy-ass liberals who've dominated public schools for decades - as both teachers and administrators - somehow have been so much better, so much more effective, so much more competent than a Betsy DeVos.


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Nothing wrong with being wealthy or spending that wealth. Look at all the people employed and living because they bought that yacht. Lots of skilled work goes into building a yacht.
 Quoting: New World Man


Just allllll remember this...

A rich man does not make it to heaven.

You know how many people the 40 mil boat could’ve helped???

Nothing wrong with enjoying what you’ve got, but to be that self absorbed to have a boat that big is wrong in my eyes.
That means you have too much money than you know what to do with.
 Quoting: Ohio chic


DO you know how much a 30k bass boat could help, or a 40k truck could help? Where does it stop, what about people that eat fast food all the time when they have a fridge full of food at home? Greed and gluttony,have no set price limit...


So by your standards the only people getting into heaven are those with only the bare essentials. Hmm interesting..
 Quoting: A/TROLL/C


Well said, another way to look at it is if you have just $2,220 to your name, you're still richer than half of the world's citizens
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What helps society more? Passing $40M worth of hamburgers out for free to "the poor" or purchasing a $40M yacht that creates employment for thousands all over the world in fields such as engineering, manufacturing, research, and others?

It costs about 10% a year to keep a boat on the water. That's an additional $4M a year spent creating jobs and purchasing goods.

Low level thinking is what keeps many people poor; and poor, bitter, angry low level thinkers are the worst because they are smart enough to know they are squandering their lives but not smart enough to blame themselves.
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I'm wondering why everyone seems to think it's cool to struggle with money?

I'm flat broke but I'd never describe myself as struggling or on struggle street.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


And btw
AINT NOTHING COOL ABOUT IT
 Quoting: Ohio chic


Then why do people seem to think struggling makes them noble or good?

I think struggling to pay your bills indicates a degree of financial illiteracy. I'm not having fun at your expense but maybe you need help setting a budget? I'd be happy to help you with budgeting.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname

Hey you heartless judging person

I HAD A STROKE THAT HAS LEFT ME UNABLE TO WORK.....
GET IT NOW ?!?!?
 Quoting: Ohio chic


I know a few people who struggle to pay their bills, they all have addiction problems. I'm not saying you do too, but working out a budget and sticking to it can alleviate a lot of money related stress in your life. That's why I offered to help you make a budget because you say you're suffering.

Maybe looking at where your finances are going will show you how to live within your means and live a more worry free life.
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I'm wondering why everyone seems to think it's cool to struggle with money?

I'm flat broke but I'd never describe myself as struggling or on struggle street.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


And btw
AINT NOTHING COOL ABOUT IT
 Quoting: Ohio chic


Then why do people seem to think struggling makes them noble or good?

I think struggling to pay your bills indicates a degree of financial illiteracy. I'm not having fun at your expense but maybe you need help setting a budget? I'd be happy to help you with budgeting.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


I agree. We live below the poverty level but no one would really know it. We budget, pay our bills (which are few), plan meals cooking and eating at home most days, go out to eat once a week, work on my paid for vehicles to keep them running etc. Go to the state park on the lake for swimming (frequently during the summer), hiking etc - inexpensive but fun activities. Life is good.
 Quoting: New World Man


I'm poor too but even though I'm on welfare I still managed to save up $1000 to splurge on crypto. It's now worth $400 so I got screwed but that doesn't mean I'm bitter about it.

The difference between being "poor" and "struggling" is controlling our impulses to buy things we don't need or can't afford.

Then there's a poverty of spirit which leads people to laugh at the misfortunes of others. A socialist would be happy to see anyone who is successful suffer any indignation.
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You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
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I can’t help but giggle at this.... 40 million. 40 million
Really?!?!?

A $40 million yacht owned by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was reportedly untied from the dock at a northern Ohio marina and set adrift.

[link to thehill.com]
 Quoting: Ohio chic


I think it just moved away from and then bumped the dock causing scratches after the ropes were untied.

IOW a whole lot of story here minus substance.
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She is heavily invested in a company developing software that they claim will fix add/hd in children...funny you should mention big pharma.
I don’t trust any of these people.
 Quoting: mona lizard


There is a potential conflict of interest there. But that's potential, not realized.

Regardless, I'm more interested in how sensible, logical, honesty and ethical she is or isn't.

Some of the poorest and wealthiest people in America have all the common sense, honesty and ethics of a Barack and Hillary.

Feeling softy-softy about people like that because they supposedly - supposedly - play the game of "I feel your pain" better than others is as foolish as admiring a tricky used-car salesman because he has a nice smile and seems to know the pluses and minuses of the cars he's selling.



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For all the haters out their the Devos's also do a lot of charity work. Devos Childrens Hospital was built with their money, and given to Spectrum Health. It's one of the top childrens hospitals in Michigan.
 Quoting: Sodbuster


I don’t hate her. I am frustrated. We need bright and engaged young people. The federal government can’t educate our children.
We need parents who read to their kids. We need to teach them to make things, build fires and swim. Oh, and fishing, financial literacy and sewing...
Most kids need better parents, not better schools...
 Quoting: mona lizard


shesright
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I'm wondering why everyone seems to think it's cool to struggle with money?

I'm flat broke but I'd never describe myself as struggling or on struggle street.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


And btw
AINT NOTHING COOL ABOUT IT
 Quoting: Ohio chic


Then why do people seem to think struggling makes them noble or good?

I think struggling to pay your bills indicates a degree of financial illiteracy. I'm not having fun at your expense but maybe you need help setting a budget? I'd be happy to help you with budgeting.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


I feel a very strong correlation between my perception of how slaves must have felt in the past (and how ridiculous i used to be thinking shit like "why wouldn't they just use their sheer numbers to overthrow their owners) and how most of us feel today as we wake up to our debt based slavery.

I can now clearly see that it was never so simple. We enslave ourselves by accepting these systems as the "only way". Once this feeling has been firmly rooted in our psyche we further dig our own holes by trying to make the best of the situation by trying to win as much as possible within the faulty paradigm.
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Slaves during the 19th century America could've run away quite easily. It was just easier to get fed and bred by slaving away in the southern sun.

That's why slavery is so easy. Bertrand Russell said, "Most people would rather die than think." It was true when he said and it's equally true today.


People would rather rant at fortunate people and gloat at their misfortune, than accept an offer to help them out of their poverty.

That's because it seems more popular and easy to be a part of the huddled masses, as opposed to being the person who everyone envies.

Socialism is more alive today than under communist Russia.
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Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
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It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
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She also has many other yachts. She is a stooge for for profit schools. Horrible pick to run education.
 Quoting: LiteaFart


I read yesterday she has 10 yachts. 10. And this one..just got a scratch on it.

How does anyone with 10 yachts, understand the intricacies of education of a growing lower class?
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Wasn't Amway a pyramid scheme?

Oh the irony..
 Quoting: Seer777



Look who's back in the news..

Secretary Betsy DeVos wants to reduce U.S. Department of Education spending by at least 10 per cent in 2020

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos appeared before a congressional subcommittee on Tuesday attempting to defend billions of dollars in proposed cuts to disability education programs, including all federal grants to the Special Olympics.

DeVos wants to slash her department's spending by at least 10 per cent ($7 billion) in the 2020 fiscal year, including cuts to after-school programs and support for children from low-income families.

She also intends to withdraw the entire $17.6 million of federal funding for the Special Olympics, the world's largest sports competition for children and adults with disabilities.


That's an amount roughly equal to the taxpayer cost of five of President Donald Trump's repeated trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort club in Palm Beach, Florida.

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Wasn't Amway a pyramid scheme?

Oh the irony..
 Quoting: Seer777


it is and it isn't.. i know plenty of people that are making six figures that started out at the bottom. you have to be a sales man and find your market. amway is huge
 Quoting: scientia sit potentia


Can you explain 'is and isn't' a bit better? I didn't even know Amway, was still around. I thought it was a known pyramid scheme.

Which makes perfect sense of all this.
 Quoting: Seer777


Is Amway a pyramid scheme? I think it is. I thought it was common knowledge that it is.
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How does anyone with 10 yachts, understand the intricacies of education of a growing lower class?
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Look who's back in the news..


Secretary Betsy DeVos wants to reduce U.S. Department of Education spending by at least 10 per cent in 2020

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos appeared before a congressional subcommittee on Tuesday attempting to defend billions of dollars in proposed cuts to disability education programs, including all federal grants to the Special Olympics.

DeVos wants to slash her department's spending by at least 10 per cent ($7 billion) in the 2020 fiscal year, including cuts to after-school programs and support for children from low-income families.

She also intends to withdraw the entire $17.6 million of federal funding for the Special Olympics, the world's largest sports competition for children and adults with disabilities.


That's an amount roughly equal to the taxpayer cost of five of President Donald Trump's repeated trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort club in Palm Beach, Florida.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Apparently the answer is..by reducing spending 10% to the most vulnerable students and adults with disabilities..

What a world we live in..

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I just want to remind everyone what OUR FUTURE is REALLY about..

And it is NOT keeping people over 65, fat and comfortable.

Cheers.


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I see nothing wrong with her and her husband having a nice boat. The DeVoss family made their money LEGALLY and without milking the government till.

Ms. DeVoss's father in law and his brother started AMWAY from scratch, with very little money, and turned it into the huge company that it is today. In the process they also made a bunch of other people rich to very well off also.

Once they made their family money ... LEGALLY ... and actually with a good moral character, what is wrong with spending a bit of it? NOTHING!! That is exactly why people slave to start a company and build it up from NOTHING!!

Money Envy by those who never tried to start and build up a business from scratch for those who did work their tails off to do that is repulsive to me.

Why should it be wrong to spend some of your monetary rewards IF you do happen to make it good? fwiw Steve Job's new yacht - which wasn't finished before he died but which his widow now uses, could have paid for 10 to 15 yachts of this size and cost (his cost for his new yacht was reported to be $450 to $650 million dollars). Of those complaining here who is taking HER, Job's widow, to task for having and using such an expensive luxury? Obviously she deserves 10 times the grief that Ms. DeVoss is getting since Job's yacht cost 10 times ++ as much!!

Sheesh ....

Either you believe in the Free Market, or you believe in Socialism.

If you believe in Socialism you need to rally around Bernie and Ms. Alexandria Cortez who want to eliminate the ability of hard working Americans to start and build new companies and be rewarded for doing that if they manage to succeed.


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edited to add:

If it is WRONG for the DeVoss's to spend part of their BILLIONS on a nice boat then it is ALSO WRONG for an American to spend a ridiculous $50,000 on just a pickup truck or a car ... since a $25,000 one will get them where they are going just as fast and just as safely. Ditto on houses ... nobody NEEDS a house that is 2500 sf, a 1100 sf house is all any family NEEDS (and is the size of most houses built for families just after WW2). Think of all the good for society people could do if they bought the smaller house or the cheaper vehicle and used the "extra" money for doing good and not being SELFISH about using it for themselves!!


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Why a $40 million yacht on Lake Erie? Yuck! The big lakes I can see but not Erie.
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Probably "In Transit" up to Lake Michigan (where the DeVoss's actually live) after wintering in the Caribbean.

The preferred transit route for large yachts in the Great Lakes to head south, and back north in the spring, is via the New York State Barge Canal (entered via Lake Ontario) and then down the Hudson River and out into the Atlantic.

While some large yachts on Lake Michigan use the Chicago Sanitary Canal to get access into the Illinois/Mississippi River system for heading south or north, the preferred routing still remains the New York State Barge Canal.

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How does anyone with 10 yachts, understand the intricacies of education of a growing lower class?
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Look who's back in the news..


Secretary Betsy DeVos wants to reduce U.S. Department of Education spending by at least 10 per cent in 2020

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos appeared before a congressional subcommittee on Tuesday attempting to defend billions of dollars in proposed cuts to disability education programs, including all federal grants to the Special Olympics.

DeVos wants to slash her department's spending by at least 10 per cent ($7 billion) in the 2020 fiscal year, including cuts to after-school programs and support for children from low-income families.

She also intends to withdraw the entire $17.6 million of federal funding for the Special Olympics, the world's largest sports competition for children and adults with disabilities.


That's an amount roughly equal to the taxpayer cost of five of President Donald Trump's repeated trips to his Mar-a-Lago resort club in Palm Beach, Florida.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Apparently the answer is..by reducing spending 10% to the most vulnerable students and adults with disabilities..

What a world we live in..

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Thread: 5th grade girl strangled and beaten to death in class

From what I read on FB there was no fight, she was grabbed and choked until she lost consciousness and then had her head slammed repeatedly against a concrete wall by a boy and girl, she had been a victim of bullying for a while.

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