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Pedophilia is NOT a "sexual orientation"!!!

 
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A TEDx speaker has argued that pedophilia should be accepted as “an unchangeable sexual orientation.”

Mirjam Heine presented her talk “Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation” at the University of Würtzberg in Germany, and said that pedophilia is like any other sexual orientation.

“According to current research pedophilia is an unchangeable sexual orientation just like, for example, heterosexuality. No one chooses to be a pedophile, no one can cease being one,” Heine argued. “The difference between pedophilia and other sexual orientations is that living out this sexual orientation will end in a disaster.”

While Heine clarified her comments by noting that “abusing children is wrong without any doubt,” she said that a “pedophile who doesn’t abuse children has done nothing wrong.”

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Paedophilia IS a psychiatric disorder.

“pedophile who doesn’t abuse children has done nothing wrong.”

This is a very subjective statement, The bottom line it means a person who is attracted to pre-pubesent children.

Lets now `flip` this over... At what point does Paedophile thinking become normal..... A few things The leagal presidence being the major factor.
Whether you are classed as a paedophile is also based on the laws of that particular country... For example you can have sex leagaly in Germany with a 14 year old hop across to the border to Belgium and the legal age is 16... So by legal interpretation you are a Paedophile in Belgium but not in Germany.... Examples (more extreme) are all over the world.

So.... Getting back on track... What and why is a Paedophile.... !!... As I said its a "psychiatric disorder".

In a majority of cases Paedophiles are `victims` of paedophilia themselves. Having been groomed and conditioned often within their own (perceived) safe family surroundings, the `normalisation` and accepting `this is the right way to behave` is instilled to protect the `power` of the abuser. The consequence is a learnt behaviour that is then carried onward as the abused becomes more sexually aware themselves.
Of course there is a lot more to this... There may be hereditary and hormonal/chemical factors that drive this and a combination of them all.

So... Is it an orientation?? Well the answer is.... Its NOT a natural orientation... its a conditioning from many areas that distort the natural thinking and development as some people grow up and like their abusers before... they can become abusers themselves.

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If one party can't consent, it's rape...
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Some people have super-consent superpower, which means their consent counts as consent for all parties. For example:

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MRI brain scans have proven determinative neural differences in individuals with this orientation. You can't argue with these clear results.
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MRI brain scans have proven determinative neural differences in individuals with this orientation. You can't argue with these clear results.
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The brain grows and develops... depending on what parts are stimulated governs where and how the brain grows.... MRI are a snap shot at the time... These comparisons are made at later ages when all the various factors have had their years in sculpting the brain.
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Well, it's a "sexual orientation" in the sense that it's about how you orient your sexuality. But it's definitely not unchangeable! Neither is any other sexual orientation for that matter. Heterosexuals can be changed to homosexuals and homosexuals can be made heterosexual. Normal people can be made pedos too, and they're working hard at it...

Human brains are programmable.

I think they try to hide this fact so we won't notice the many ways they are busy programming us, that's why it's "taboo" to discuss the fact sexual orientations can be changed.

Controlling the input to your brain and where you direct your thoughts is how you program yourself, and how you shape all aspects of your own personality, sexuality included. And if you don't take responsibility for your own programming, someone else will program you to their purposes instead!

The only limitation to reprogramming a brain, is that it gets harder the older you get.

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That's not true dood. Old people can be programmed just as easily as young people, I'll explain.

The brain is constantly being bombarded with information and people can be easily led through making them think they thought of the information. Take Q, by making the autists interpret the information in ways that make sense to them, you can posit things to them which become viral as people listen to the autists.

For instance I could claim to have hidden gnostic knowledge and word a paragraph to lead you into a realisation about what Freemasons call the Grand Architect. Like this.

The holographic principal indicates that humanity lives on a planet which is held together by waves of ultrasonic sound which form matter by instructing them on which wavelength corresponds with which atom to form.

This paragraph infers that someone or something created the universe and in doing so is the creator. Whether you refer to this being as the Great Programmer or the understanding of the universe being made of building blocks of atoms; The Great Architect. The paragraph is designed to appeal to deists and mold their belief which what we can posit was revealed to us through the observation of nature, etc.
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A TEDx speaker has argued that pedophilia should be accepted as “an unchangeable sexual orientation.”

Mirjam Heine presented her talk “Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation” at the University of Würtzberg in Germany, and said that pedophilia is like any other sexual orientation.

“According to current research pedophilia is an unchangeable sexual orientation just like, for example, heterosexuality. No one chooses to be a pedophile, no one can cease being one,” Heine argued. “The difference between pedophilia and other sexual orientations is that living out this sexual orientation will end in a disaster.”

While Heine clarified her comments by noting that “abusing children is wrong without any doubt,” she said that a “pedophile who doesn’t abuse children has done nothing wrong.”

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They shouldn't think of Australia as a travel or lifestyle choice either.
They will get dead eventually and not nicely.
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and, no it's not.
It's like what they used to say about lions that had tasted man, this was their excuse for hunting them.

In my opinion as a mother, it should be a 3 strike rule...

balls.
dick.
Life.

Or

banish them to the places on the globe that accept this behavior.

I don't understand how people that live on the same streets can watch (as in; evidence) and not kill...
someone is going to have to explain this to me from that department, eventually.

The only reason I can think of so far (and I think I'm a regular smart) is there is/was a break in communication from one level of good to another and so on...

This current form of dealing with it is so unnatural that it begs belief it was allowed for so long.

And they can't hide behind lbgt any longer.
The cumulative murders OF lgbt over all these years WAS to protect pedos.
They almost made it fashionable.

Fucking degenerate unnatural filth.
 Quoting: Aaaarc


Banishing pedophiles to pedophile land is endorsing pedophilia. You can't be against it here but not there, or accept it there but not here. One is either opposed to it or not.

Be careful what you endorse, more importantly how you endorse it.
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MRI brain scans have proven determinative neural differences in individuals with this orientation. You can't argue with these clear results.
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Chalk it up to evolutionary degeneracy then if that's what one believes in. Sex with babies and toddlers and/or sacrificing them to Satan isn't evolution nor does it help them survive. Its evil, sick, waste.
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oops wrong quote.

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pornophilia is a mental disorder also. They make isms i'll make new labels too.
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no adult genitals in developing genitals. Do it get caught get gassed in an oven euthenised by chemicals hung lynched take your pick reprobates. for those that hide their crime against the little ones your time will come you can hide but you cant run.
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Dont give a ratz ass what MRI shows. We do not know for sure it is interpretation and a theory at best.

Pedophilia is NOT a "sexual orientation", it is a fetish. Just like kleptomania while doing much greater level of damage. Both should be in jail. If they know it is wrong, society says it is wrong, it is an abuse - enjoy the punishment.
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Well, it's a "sexual orientation" in the sense that it's about how you orient your sexuality. But it's definitely not unchangeable! Neither is any other sexual orientation for that matter. Heterosexuals can be changed to homosexuals and homosexuals can be made heterosexual. Normal people can be made pedos too, and they're working hard at it...

Human brains are programmable.

I think they try to hide this fact so we won't notice the many ways they are busy programming us, that's why it's "taboo" to discuss the fact sexual orientations can be changed.

Controlling the input to your brain and where you direct your thoughts is how you program yourself, and how you shape all aspects of your own personality, sexuality included. And if you don't take responsibility for your own programming, someone else will program you to their purposes instead!

The only limitation to reprogramming a brain, is that it gets harder the older you get.

 Quoting: The Monk


That's not true dood. Old people can be programmed just as easily as young people, I'll explain.

The brain is constantly being bombarded with information and people can be easily led through making them think they thought of the information. Take Q, by making the autists interpret the information in ways that make sense to them, you can posit things to them which become viral as people listen to the autists.

For instance I could claim to have hidden gnostic knowledge and word a paragraph to lead you into a realisation about what Freemasons call the Grand Architect. Like this.

The holographic principal indicates that humanity lives on a planet which is held together by waves of ultrasonic sound which form matter by instructing them on which wavelength corresponds with which atom to form.

This paragraph infers that someone or something created the universe and in doing so is the creator. Whether you refer to this being as the Great Programmer or the understanding of the universe being made of building blocks of atoms; The Great Architect. The paragraph is designed to appeal to deists and mold their belief which what we can posit was revealed to us through the observation of nature, etc.
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I didn't say old brains can't be programmed, just that it isn't quite as easy as with young brains. Old brains have more "inertia" to overcome. You make a valid point on how programming can be done though.

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A TEDx speaker has argued that pedophilia should be accepted as “an unchangeable sexual orientation.”

Mirjam Heine presented her talk “Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation” at the University of Würtzberg in Germany, and said that pedophilia is like any other sexual orientation.

“According to current research pedophilia is an unchangeable sexual orientation just like, for example, heterosexuality. No one chooses to be a pedophile, no one can cease being one,” Heine argued. “The difference between pedophilia and other sexual orientations is that living out this sexual orientation will end in a disaster.”

While Heine clarified her comments by noting that “abusing children is wrong without any doubt,” she said that a “pedophile who doesn’t abuse children has done nothing wrong.”

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To this, I say: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: JohnathanM


So as long as they do it nicely (hugs,tickling,etc.) & provide gifts (grooming) then it's okay.?? 2 kinds of pedophiles & the 2nd is charming & gives gifts. BOTH ARE EVIL,BOTH ARE ABUSERS! There is no form of pedophilia acceptable in a same society
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Try being the Son of one raised in a religious cult where it's suppressed, covered up and defended.

That's the life my sister and I had growing up.

Made me ULTRA vigilant with my children to not allow anyone too close to them.

Then I married my 2nd wife after my 1st went nutty due to the same issue in her church that was connected to ours.

The 2nd wife's brother WAS THE SAME FUCKING WAY GOD DAMMIT!! CAN'T GET AWAY FROM IT!!!

1 Made comments about my daughter's "perky breasts" when she was 10.

2. Picked kids up at the community pool and he said "wouldn't you love to smell the bicycle seats of these little girl's bikes." EWWWWW!


So yeah, try living with it all your life and raise normal, protected and cherished children, girl and boy, in an environment like that!

It sucks.

I can safely say, I did my job of protecting them with all my heart and soul EVEN THOUGH my family disowned me and excluded me from their estate upon their deaths 100%.

Whatever! My kids were safe!

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Okay let's all agree on few things. The sexualization, rape, molestation or even supposed consensual(not really) sex with a prepubecsnt child is disgusting, morally wrong, damaging to the child and should remain taboo and illegal in every way. I think we can agree on this.

You must also take in to account pedophilia has come to cover all cases where someone older than 18 has sexual relations with someone under 18. This is not a true or factual evaluation of the situation and the punishment is likely extremely unfair.

So let's look at this subject deeper. First, A Hebophile is defined as an adult who has a strong sexual, emotional and spiritual attraction and/or preference for
adolescents, (post-pubescent children) but are NOT attracted to
pre-pubescent children.

Do you consider these people sickos? I only ask because almost everyone of your family members say just 200 years ago is likely a Hebophile. When life was shorter it was imperative that people get married and have kids young. This increased the chances of survival dramatically. These days we lump these people in to the pedo crowd perhaps unfairly. Don't get me wrong. I don't want my two teen age daughters dating some guy in his 30s but I don't believe that if an older man is attracted say a 17 year old is a sicko pervert and needs to be jailed immediately.

Pedo, Heno, Homo, straight and everything in between is a sexual orientation whether you like it or not. Many people can change their sexuality to some degree but not completely.


These are just a few facts on a very complex subject. You don't have to agree but this is what science and psychologist won't tell you because anything short of let's hang any old guy attracted younger women is considered saying pedophila is okay.

Let me end with this. Pedophila is not okay. It should never be legal or normalized. It damages a child for life. It is a terrible terrible thing.
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To add the distinction, they are not defining pedophilia as the act, but the attraction. The act is defined as child sexual abuse I think.
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Okay let's all agree on few things. The sexualization, rape, molestation or even supposed consensual(not really) sex with a prepubecsnt child is disgusting, morally wrong, damaging to the child and should remain taboo and illegal in every way. I think we can agree on this.

You must also take in to account pedophilia has come to cover all cases where someone older than 18 has sexual relations with someone under 18. This is not a true or factual evaluation of the situation and the punishment is likely extremely unfair.

So let's look at this subject deeper. First, A Hebophile is defined as an adult who has a strong sexual, emotional and spiritual attraction and/or preference for
adolescents, (post-pubescent children) but are NOT attracted to
pre-pubescent children.

Do you consider these people sickos? I only ask because almost everyone of your family members say just 200 years ago is likely a Hebophile. When life was shorter it was imperative that people get married and have kids young. This increased the chances of survival dramatically. These days we lump these people in to the pedo crowd perhaps unfairly. Don't get me wrong. I don't want my two teen age daughters dating some guy in his 30s but I don't believe that if an older man is attracted say a 17 year old is a sicko pervert and needs to be jailed immediately.

Pedo, Heno, Homo, straight and everything in between is a sexual orientation whether you like it or not. Many people can change their sexuality to some degree but not completely.


These are just a few facts on a very complex subject. You don't have to agree but this is what science and psychologist won't tell you because anything short of let's hang any old guy attracted younger women is considered saying pedophila is okay.

Let me end with this. Pedophila is not okay. It should never be legal or normalized. It damages a child for life. It is a terrible terrible thing.
 Quoting: TylerCasals


A 19 year old male with 13 year old WOMAN (who has hit puberty and by nature's standard of old) is an acceptable relationship... In an Amish community or similar where the dependence on one another is related to given tasks which including having and raising a family.

An 18 year old male who was dating the SAME GIRL for 2 or 3 years in high school (only being a grade ahead, say, starting from a Sophomore/Freshman grade relationship) and who have both had sex for years, should not be arrested and labeled a "sex offender" the day he turns 18 if the relationship continues. Any judge who would rule on this to the strictest letter of the law, or a jury that would do the same, are f*cking fools.

18 is NOT a BY STATE age limit, nor by country.

That said, what happens outside the United States SHOULD BE HANDLED by that country's laws and policing authorities. If men want to go to Thailand and India and places like that that allow for it, it's THEIR PROBLEM, not ours. The U.S. should have no jurisdiction over their activity there, no matter how sick, however, if caught and convicted there, their passports should be taken away from allowing them entry back into the U.S. or to then be arrested as a fugitive.

There are other "situational ethics", I'm sure, but... there's also a MAJOR double standard for when it's an older woman (like the teachers of the past 20 years) and younger males. They definitely don't get the same treatment, prison sentences and stigma that men do. People here "Sex Offender" and 99-100% of the time, it's automatically a MALE that registers.

Women are merely predators while men are all rapists? Hmmm.





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