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Should We Change The Karma System To Show Who Left The Karma?

 
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

In addition, many don't really understand what's being reported and what the actual violations are. The mods approve all reports.

You can't just feel abused, and then report an "abusive post", and have it approved. But that is the widely-believed assumption.
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


good to know. cleaners.

so then just eliminate red karma. then the guilty don't get rewarded. seems pretty simple.

(and you can probably find many of those guilty hitting my karma right now if you want to round them up. lol).
 Quoting: MissCleo


Oh for the love of all that is Holy will you PLEASE just shut the fuck up already. You spew your 'I know it all it and you know nothing' bullshit attitude on every thread. Your karma shows that the majority of people are sick of it, not because they're trolls.

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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

In addition, many don't really understand what's being reported and what the actual violations are. The mods approve all reports.

You can't just feel abused, and then report an "abusive post", and have it approved. But that is the widely-believed assumption.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.

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Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.
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Wow, that is interesting.
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

In addition, many don't really understand what's being reported and what the actual violations are. The mods approve all reports.

You can't just feel abused, and then report an "abusive post", and have it approved. But that is the widely-believed assumption.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.
 Quoting: Chip


THIS^^^^

People have no idea the number of "butthurt" reports we have to wade through.
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

In addition, many don't really understand what's being reported and what the actual violations are. The mods approve all reports.

You can't just feel abused, and then report an "abusive post", and have it approved. But that is the widely-believed assumption.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.
 Quoting: Chip


It's the karma system that encourages some people to find something to report so they can get more green. Ditch the karma system, and abuse reports will drop by 75 %.
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Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.
 Quoting: Chip

Wow, that is interesting.
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Snowflakes bro. On that same note; we haven't really had enough time yet without the anonymous cowards to see what the current reports suggest.

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Karma aside, bring the AC's back, I hate being clothed!
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Karma aside, bring the AC's back, I hate being clothed!
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And exactly what positive purpose does bad red Karma serve on GLP? Those who give it are chicken shit.

If you disagree with a thread or a response on a topic, have the courage to contribute your written opinion in a reasoned refutation of the offending statement.
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


good to know. cleaners.

so then just eliminate red karma. then the guilty don't get rewarded. seems pretty simple.

(and you can probably find many of those guilty hitting my karma right now if you want to round them up. lol).
 Quoting: MissCleo


Oh for the love of all that is Holy will you PLEASE just shut the fuck up already. You spew your 'I know it all it and you know nothing' bullshit attitude on every thread. Your karma shows that the majority of people are sick of it, not because they're trolls.
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fine.

all my questions have been answered.
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

In addition, many don't really understand what's being reported and what the actual violations are. The mods approve all reports.

You can't just feel abused, and then report an "abusive post", and have it approved. But that is the widely-believed assumption.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.
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You have to wonder what percentage of people are reporting that bloody many abusive posts.

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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

In addition, many don't really understand what's being reported and what the actual violations are. The mods approve all reports.

You can't just feel abused, and then report an "abusive post", and have it approved. But that is the widely-believed assumption.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Exactly. Roughly 75% of abuse reports are denied.
 Quoting: Chip


I know I only report 1 or 2 every couple days now. Since AC's are gone, we don't have nearly the shitposting that would overtake this forum daily. I like it.
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Karma aside, bring the AC's back, I hate being clothed!
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That was cute!! banana2
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And exactly what positive purpose does bad red Karma serve on GLP? Those who give it are chicken shit.

If you disagree with a thread or a response on a topic, have the courage to contribute your written opinion in a reasoned refutation of the offending statement.
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Lol. Often people just think other's are stupid. Karma gives people the ability to make sure you know you're stupid.

And...by the amount of red you've received it tells me exactly that…according to our members; you're stupid.

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Hmmm I have red that mentions "safe space" lol

I disagree. I think reporting abusive threads ALL DAY to acquire green is a sorry way to go about getting green. Having said that, there are some who practice that and I have given green if moved to do so. I don't withhold a green thumb because they aren't living up to my belief of how you should acquire karma.
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So...assisting the staff in cleaning up the forum is bad to you?
 Quoting: Chip


I don't honestly see that much that I find offensive I guess. If someone is advocating violence or telling someone to kill themselves I would report that.
 Quoting: Evangelina


I wonder why you never see them? Could it be that we have enough people watching and reporting those posts?

jay
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This.
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What is a "trolly" comment?
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Lol, just made up my own word there. What's a trolly comment? How long do you have?
 Quoting: Love_Goddess


Your choice of words isnt the point. I knew what you were suggesting. But it is vague and thats the problem.

People want this to be there own little safe space where people do not have a difference in opinion.
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Um, there is a difference between having an opposing opinion and being a straight up dick. If you wanna talk mad shit to someone, then you should have the balls to own it too.
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There you go you defined it. Big difference between "trolly comment" and "talking mad shit"..
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Buzzards and vultures and other cleaners of the earth keep potential spread of disease at bay. So it’s a good system naturally.
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Hmmm I have red that mentions "safe space" lol

I disagree. I think reporting abusive threads ALL DAY to acquire green is a sorry way to go about getting green. Having said that, there are some who practice that and I have given green if moved to do so. I don't withhold a green thumb because they aren't living up to my belief of how you should acquire karma.
 Quoting: Evangelina


So...assisting the staff in cleaning up the forum is bad to you?
 Quoting: Chip


I don't honestly see that much that I find offensive I guess. If someone is advocating violence or telling someone to kill themselves I would report that.
 Quoting: Evangelina


I wonder why you never see them? Could it be that we have enough people watching and reporting those posts?

jay
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Perhaps because I have a fairly narrow area of interests and there is not a lot of BS on those threads in general 1dunno1

It's difficult to say Chip, I don't have the advantage of actually seeing what type of "Abusive Posts" you all are dealing with. Just what is considered "offensive"? I shared what constitutes offensive to me. Maybe it should be posted what is considered offensive. If people knew before hand.. it might save you all a lot of work.

Maybe I'm just laid back and ez going eyebat

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Lol, just made up my own word there. What's a trolly comment? How long do you have?
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Your choice of words isnt the point. I knew what you were suggesting. But it is vague and thats the problem.

People want this to be there own little safe space where people do not have a difference in opinion.
 Quoting: Toilet paper roll

Um, there is a difference between having an opposing opinion and being a straight up dick. If you wanna talk mad shit to someone, then you should have the balls to own it too.
 Quoting: Love_Goddess


There you go you defined it. Big difference between "trolly comment" and "talking mad shit"..
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Yep
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So...assisting the staff in cleaning up the forum is bad to you?
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I don't honestly see that much that I find offensive I guess. If someone is advocating violence or telling someone to kill themselves I would report that.
 Quoting: Evangelina


I wonder why you never see them? Could it be that we have enough people watching and reporting those posts?

jay
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Perhaps because I have a fairly narrow area of interests and there is not a lot of BS on those threads in general 1dunno1

It's difficult to say Chip, I don't have the advantage of actually seeing what type of "Abusive Posts" you all are dealing with. Just what is considered "offensive"? I shared what constitutes offensive to me. Maybe it should be posted what is considered offensive. If people knew before hand.. it might say you all a lot of work.

Maybe I'm just laid back and ez going eyebat
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The karma system helps clean the forum. People want green karma in order to upgrade their accounts, green pin their threads or their friends threads, or clean up red karma or for ban immunity etc. It's a reward for helping clean the forum up. There are those out there the call those people karma whores or snitches. But those accusers are merely the guilty. They're not the helpers.
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mw_hi-five

Agreed. And copyright violations. When members report a thread/post where something (not bible verses) is quoted from the net, yet no link is given, or the whole article was brought over, it could get this forum in trouble (lawsuit) from whoever that info was quoted from. Members aren't trying to be snitches or karma whores. Some have even asked the OP etc for the link to the source, and still not gotten one.

So when no link is reported to the mods, it helps protect this forum and keep it clean as well.

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We have 2 choices IMO. Eliminate it...or leave it alone.

Revealing shit...bad idea.

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And exactly what positive purpose does bad red Karma serve on GLP? Those who give it are chicken shit.

If you disagree with a thread or a response on a topic, have the courage to contribute your written opinion in a reasoned refutation of the offending statement.
 Quoting: dogman17


Lol. Often people just think other's are stupid. Karma gives people the ability to make sure you know you're stupid.

And...by the amount of red you've received it tells me exactly that…according to our members; you're stupid.

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I got red for promoting blood donation. rofl
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We have 2 choices IMO. Eliminate it...or leave it alone.

Revealing shit...bad idea.
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We have 2 choices IMO. Eliminate it...or leave it alone.

Revealing shit...bad idea.
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what does the math say?

75% of abuse reports are butthurt (I report violations, didn't know butthurt was a thing, and that's alarming).

100% of mods seem overwhelmed.

100% agree that revealing shit is a bad idea because mods would be 1 million times overwhelmed with butthurt.

So the problem is butthurt?

But the cleaners are a good thing?

Is that the bottom line? (if not can we get there soon?)

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We have 2 choices IMO. Eliminate it...or leave it alone.

Revealing shit...bad idea.
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Everyone says that they don't really care after offering a long-winded opinion & 20 followup posts.

It's clear that they DO care.

The endless bellyaching over a week about it has landed me here: Fuck 'em, leave it.

To me, GLP is an MRE, cigarette and a warm, flat beer -- you put up with it because the company is engaging enough to not care.

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We have 2 choices IMO. Eliminate it...or leave it alone.

Revealing shit...bad idea.
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what does the math say?

75% of abuse reports are butthurt (I report violations, didn't know butthurt was a thing, and that's alarming).

100% of mods seem overwhelmed.

100% agree that revealing shit is a bad idea because mods would be 1 million times overwhelmed with butthurt.

So the problem is butthurt?

But the cleaners are a good thing?

Is that the bottom line? (if not can we get there soon?)
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The bottom line is that you anti-karma folks are not intelligent or informed enough to understand what the karma system does for us all. All I've done in this thread is try to correct that.

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Maybe Trin should have just asked the mods and left us out of it then. If it's left out completely, isn't that going to negatively affect those who use it to pay for their fee?

I asked what was considered abusive or at least that it be posted somewhere. Seems reasonable to me.

Maybe the mods don't want to be outed? If that's the case, maybe mods should be exonerated.

Sounds like this is already a done deal so.. byekitty
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The result of revealing Karma...


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