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RE: the missing Iowa girl.....

 
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There was no abductor
naughty
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You know this, how?
 Quoting: Esoterica


I meant in the Madeleine McCann case - sorry.
 Quoting: Cocopop


Again how would you know that?
 Quoting: flopsy


Are you serious?

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I’m headed to work right now, so I will add more to this later. However something stinks. I just was watching the press conference with the parents.
Not only did neither of them not show any emotion whatsoever, which is possible if they are in shock, still strange, but they were way too structured, and lacking any empathy whatsoever on camera. They also kept praising the media , Making sure people knew they thought the media was incredible.
Does anybody else find that strange? I will get back on here for the discussion in about an hour, just want to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!
Ps, I would be inconsolable if my child were missing. And again, people react differently to stressful situations but this just seems odd to me.
Be back soon!
 Quoting: Esoterica


Some loose ends:

> Who last saw Mollie alive?

Neighbor Nate Howood saw her on West Pershing Drive at 7:30 pm, July 18

(source: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] )

> Dogs locked in basement (??)

According to the mother, the two dogs which included a pit-bull lab mix, were "locked in the basement".

> Red shirt

Mom says Mollie had two (2) red work shirts, but that they were both found in her room. It remains unclear if the red shirt found at the hog farm is Mollie's.

>Where did Mollie work?
This summer it was at daycare center, at the Grinnell Medical Center....

....which was 15 minutes away from the house.

Who else lived 15 minutes away? Old Wayne Cheney.


But here's my new stumbling point: the dogs!!
Yes, it's possible Mollie locked up the dogs, whom she was ostensibly there to look after, in the basement.

Doubtful.

Who DID put the dogs down there-- where they couldn't protect Mollie?

This, I believe, may be crucial to understanding what happened.

Hope this helps, GLP. Pray for Mollie.

Edit: More dog thoughts

Nobody said anything about the condition of the dogs. If they had been killed, maimed, etc., in addition to being found "locked" in the basement.

IF they were (and police aren't saying), THAT would indicate an intrusion/abduction inside the domicile. Which, has not been confirmed yet.

If the dogs were found unharmed, that still begs the question WHO locked the protective dogs down there, and WHY?

Possible scenario:
Truck pulls over side of road by house, turns hazards on.

Man knocks on door, says, "Yeah my truck broke down, can I use your [whatever]?" and then, say, uses a taser to subdue victim quickly and silently.

Silently--- what about the dogs? The MIGHT allow Mollie to open the door to a stranger, after barking to alert his presence. They MIGHT even be calm while he talks with her. But if an act of physical violence or intimidation (or even picking up on the subconscious fear cues of Mollie) were to occur, I cannot believe two loyal large dogs would not rip the living throat out of an attacker.

And yet..... the dogs were in the basement.

Did that happen before, or after, say, 7:30 PM?

Did stalker, who had been watching her, wait for her to leave on the run, then enter the dwelling (which was admittedly NOT locked or secured- source: BF) then somehow get the dogs in the basement?

Possibly. Hell, throw a hunk of meat down there, or use some kind of pepper spray on the dogs, I don't know. But someone put the dogs down there, at some point that evening.

I do not believe Mollie put the dogs in the basement. I do not believe she locked the basement door.

But somebody did.

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I see her near a large industrial sized fan close by her, like in a factory or plant near where she is. wooded area, within 20 miles of where she went missing. And one of those old bomb shelter signs, black and yellow, is also close by.

Wish I could know if this pans out to be accurate.
The world is screwed.
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I see her near a large industrial sized fan close by her, like in a factory or plant near where she is. wooded area, within 20 miles of where she went missing. And one of those old bomb shelter signs, black and yellow, is also close by.

Wish I could know if this pans out to be accurate.
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If you saw her you should have called tge cops!
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No I mean I "see" things by closing my eyes and asking to "see" where someone is. Then I am shown things around the person. Been doing it since childhood. Used to be good at it with practice, now I'm rusty. Only about 75% accuracy I think.
The world is screwed.
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Me tooooo.
and JonBenet Ramsey, and Casey Anthony.
I was in NJ in the area when Son of Sam was out there. creeped me out.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Yeah both of them too. The Ramsey case still bothers me. Occasionally I run across stuff about that case and still follow it.

I local girl at my son’s High school got some award at graduation ... for her class project she scored an interview with David Berkowitz. Apparently he is a changed man. That would be a cool interview.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


Did you see the Dr Phil interview with Burke Ramsey, he totally did it.

Berkowitz was scary. A troubled child and then in the military.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Burke was always the logical choice. I saw it but don’t remember it. I remember his stupid laugh though.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


Don't want to derail this thread but I posted a deathbed confession by Boulder top dog LE of who killed Jon Benet Ranzey and the reasons behind it.

Maddie McCann's cause of death was likewise revealed online.
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Re: RE: the missing Iowa girl.....
The video on which the following comments were posted was just a re-hash of info we already know, versus these posts:

Former Iowa rez here. Ohio. I-80 was a major corridor for drugs back in the 70s and 80s, and probably before that. It wouldn't be surprising if it's now used for sex trafficking..

Drugs were run mostly by mafia I know first hand as a guy in 7th grade--early 80s--his dad was busted for drugs. The DEA even removed their house's window frames and found bricks of cocaine! The dad worked for Chicago mobsters. Never saw our classmate again, neighbors said they moved in the middle of the night with the FBI guarding them, and there's zero records under the family name. No court records either, as the dad was hit with a slew of federal charges. We're sure they got put in the witness protection program.


It'd be interesting to see the numbers of missing kids/young adults around I-80 that remain unresolved. I feel it's someone she knew. Why were her brothers even suspected in the first place?? Isn't that odd? They think she returned to the bf's house after her jog, they looked at her fitbit data. Fitbit, if she kept it on, would also tell authorities if/when she was attacked according to increased heart rate/pulse.

They haven't released any info about that publicly. Fitbit data helped convict a murderer IIRC in Australia as it proved the time of death, and the murderer provided a different timeline.

They almost always look at family and friends first, as statistically they're most likely to be involved. Once those people are cleared police will move on to other potential suspects.

I know they look at family/partners first; but to come out and say the brothers were cleared sounded flat out weird. Usually it's 'we can rule out her boyfriend and immediate family after investigating them'. Instead of saying "Her brothers were cleared." So does that leave her parents? Just weird.

The area is vast, Iowa has a smaller population than Ireland but is more than 4 times bigger. So hard to govern such a huge area, so many places to hide.

Most of the time, the sex traficking is here in North America. It's more difficult to ship a person overseas but not impossible. Shipping containers and some bribed dock staff or owned docks goes a long way. Organized crime is a bitch.

51 people that go unsolved out of almost 8000 is still an incredibly high number. Under 20 you could chalk it up to a serial killer I suppose but they don't exactly pop up all that often and when they do, the ones that wind up successfully killing a high number do it over the course of many years, not in just one. Besides, all these missing people that when unsolved, are young and mostly female.

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No I mean I "see" things by closing my eyes and asking to "see" where someone is. Then I am shown things around the person. Been doing it since childhood. Used to be good at it with practice, now I'm rusty. Only about 75% accuracy I think.
 Quoting: Mother May I


Not sure if these kinds of details help you, but:

>Last seen wearing pink sports bra, shorts, and running shoes (7:30 PM, July 18)

These items have not been recovered-- suggesting she may have still been wearing them when she disappeared.

>What was her jogging M.O.?

About 45 minute circuit, traversing "pretty trails and rural cornfields" before always returning before sunset.

> According to the mother, Mollie lived very close by to her family home (Mom, and brothers Scott, 17, and Jake, 21). How close? So close she often walked there from her BF's house

I don't believe it was an 'inside job', but if it were, a family member I suppose could have easily walked there.


> The dogs

After seeing a picture of the two medium-to-large dogs that Mollie was dog-sitting....holy cow.

They are pretty big, scary looking (i.e., protector-type) mofos. One is a boxer breed, the other is a pit-bull Labrador mix.

Check out the picture of the dogs in this article:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


The mother believes Mollie did not return from her run. She says this because the dogs were always upstairs in the house proper when anybody was home. Mollie would always make sure the dogs were by her side.

Instead they were found locked in the basement, update: unharmed, and did not appear agitated or distressed (see above article).

Also, the fact that her pink sports bra, shoes, gold colored iPhone & shorts were not recovered.

Hope any of this stuff helps!
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I think its most likey somebody she knew. This is a common theme in cases like this...its rare to be an serial killing in a small town like that but you cant rule out the possibility is was a random sexual predator and a spontaneous attack.

I hope the cops are closing in on the suspect and that she is alive.
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They would have your pic on the camera ANYWHERE you cash the check.

Can't open a checking account just for this check. Can't get the money.

Someone needs to ask that question to CrimeStoppers!!!
 Quoting: AverageJoe



Or a briefcase full of cash.

Hitachi Corp. introduced 'RFID dust', or, powederized (micro-manufactured) tracking device chips, that they can sprinkle or place on cash to track it.

This is been in the news since 2006 when Hitachi announced it.

Article from 2007: [link to www.technovelgy.com]


I say, offer a billion dollars cash. Keep upping the ante until we find Mollie!
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Yeah both of them too. The Ramsey case still bothers me. Occasionally I run across stuff about that case and still follow it.

I local girl at my son’s High school got some award at graduation ... for her class project she scored an interview with David Berkowitz. Apparently he is a changed man. That would be a cool interview.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


Did you see the Dr Phil interview with Burke Ramsey, he totally did it.

Berkowitz was scary. A troubled child and then in the military.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Burke was always the logical choice. I saw it but don’t remember it. I remember his stupid laugh though.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


Don't want to derail this thread but I posted a deathbed confession by Boulder top dog LE of who killed Jon Benet Ranzey and the reasons behind it.

Maddie McCann's cause of death was likewise revealed online.
 Quoting: NotStarvingActress


There were several. I didn’t see your link - is it the Glenn Meyer one?
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Praying for Mollie..hf


Very strange the dogs were locked in the basement.

Very very strange.
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Praying for Mollie..hf


Very strange the dogs were locked in the basement.

Very very strange.
 Quoting: abeliever


Maybe. Maybe not.

We don’t know if that was a common thing that she did or not.
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What real motive would Mollie's BF have, though, really? He already gets to spend time with her, kiss her, hang out together. Perhaps even loved her, deeply.

What possibly gain could come from abducting his beautiful intelligent funny girlfriend? I just don't see it, not in a million years. Let's face it, she would be the hottest girlfriend most men would ever get in their entire lives. Not to be crass, but, I cannot grasp any motive, whatsoever. Respectfully.
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haha. Boys just don't want to kiss and hang out with girls. And some men are incapable of love. Just because she was perfect doesn't mean that he thought so.

And for "most" men (as demonstrated on this forum) think women are expensive, need to make them sandwiches and clean their house and give them sex constantly without asking for anything in return.

Women are murdered when they are pregnant because the man isn't ready to settle down, they think she was fooling around, he doesn't want his life to change drastically, he doesn't want to commit, they feel controlled by the woman, he wasn't expecting to have a baby so soon, they don't want to give up their playboy lifestyle. And they think women are expendable. Lacy Peterson. Ray Caruth's girlfriend.
 Quoting: MissCleo



Rae Lamar Wiggins (street name: Rae Carruth) was found in a trunk of a car, with bottles of urine, and candy bars.

So I agree, yes, a baby would have interfered with his lifestyle choices.

(Source: "Carruth turns up in trunk at motel". Pittsburgh
Post-Gazette. December 16, 1999.)
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However, in this case, this thread (which is about the still missing Mollie Tibbits), not a single source indicates she may have been pregnant.

Not the police, not the family, not even Mollie herself ever mention to anybody that she was pregnant.

Devil's advocate: Suppose she was pregnant?

Say she took a test, and it came back positive. Suppose she was nervous, because BF didn't want children (MissCleo's motive for the BF).

Who would she tell first? Would she keep it a secret from her best girlfriends? (doubtful) Keep it a secret from her own mother? (maybe)

But if she was scared about, IDK, being killed for being pregnant, why on earth would she only tell the one man who she fears might break up with her/abduct her?

In my opinion, IF she was pregnant, she would have told somebody. A friend, her doctor, her girlfriends, a trusted family member, etc.

Or, perhaps the pregnant Mollie was planning on telling her family after her evening jog...on the hottest night of summer....alone. Yeah, sounds like a pregnant woman.


So, unless the boyfriend is pulled out of a trunk with candy bars and piss jugs, like Rae Wiggins/Carruth, I think this is all a false trail. Respectfully.

Let's just find Mollie and ask her. I mean, it's our business now, right?
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Praying for Mollie..hf


Very strange the dogs were locked in the basement.

Very very strange.
 Quoting: abeliever


Maybe. Maybe not.

We don’t know if that was a common thing that she did or not.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


The mother said that when anybody was in the shared home, the dogs were allowed to roam free. They were, in fact, there for protection as much as company.

Mom believes she was not abducted from the home, for this very reason:

Mollie (or the other cohabitants) would ALWAYS have the dogs around here, when they were in the house. ALWAYS.

That's the mom's conclusion.

The other possibility is that someone who might have been stalking her waited for her to depart jogging, enter the unlocked house, and LOCKED the basement door, just in case during the abduction something went wrong, it would take more than a simple swipe to open the door by the victim.

Certainly possible. However at this point, it's just a clue to be followed up on. I cannot draw any direct inferences from the locked basement door...

...(except how difficult it would be for a canine to stand on a stairway, use its paws to grasp, twist, and open a door handle while standing on its hind legs, and without opposable thumbs....just closing the door is sufficient. Why LOCK it?)

Edit:

Also, if nobody locked the doors and windows to the place (admitted by boyfriend & others)....why would they lock an INSIDE door??

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Nobody wants Mollie found more than us n Iowa.... you are missing the big picture here!!!! Where the FUCK are the other 47 that went missing from our state in the last 2 weeks???!!!! Why is this not the headlines of EVERY news story!! If a plane went missing with 48 aboard you would hear about this EVERY freaking second!!! COME ON HELP US HERE!!
 Quoting: XTREMEONE


Yes it is quite disturbing that MSM is only focused on Mollie and ignoring the fact that 48 in Iowa went poof! Gone. But please keep ONLY repeating the same images and corny Hollywood interviews.
 Quoting: Hungrybear


Most missing persons' reports don't have as many specifics for the public to follow. This young woman has an easily verified timeline, and a set routine. Daycare worker adds sympathy. College student trying to better herself. Stable family background with no hint of drug use. All equals media ready reporting.
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What real motive would Mollie's BF have, though, really? He already gets to spend time with her, kiss her, hang out together. Perhaps even loved her, deeply.

What possibly gain could come from abducting his beautiful intelligent funny girlfriend? I just don't see it, not in a million years. Let's face it, she would be the hottest girlfriend most men would ever get in their entire lives. Not to be crass, but, I cannot grasp any motive, whatsoever. Respectfully.
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


haha. Boys just don't want to kiss and hang out with girls. And some men are incapable of love. Just because she was perfect doesn't mean that he thought so.

And for "most" men (as demonstrated on this forum) think women are expensive, need to make them sandwiches and clean their house and give them sex constantly without asking for anything in return.

Women are murdered when they are pregnant because the man isn't ready to settle down, they think she was fooling around, he doesn't want his life to change drastically, he doesn't want to commit, they feel controlled by the woman, he wasn't expecting to have a baby so soon, they don't want to give up their playboy lifestyle. And they think women are expendable. Lacy Peterson. Ray Caruth's girlfriend.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Thank you for your post. I need to learn how to think like a man to understand them better.
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They need to check under the bridge, theres lots of tree's and undergrowth and a mud creek/river.
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There was no abductor
naughty
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You know this, how?
 Quoting: Esoterica


I meant in the Madeleine McCann case - sorry.

 Quoting: Cocopop


Again how would you know that?
 Quoting: flopsy


LOTS of online evidence proving parental involvement in the McCann case starting with police dogs finding evidence. Again
don't want to divert this thread.

I'll start new threads on Maddie McCann and Jon Benet Ramsey later today. Watch for it.

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Shame glp is not showing more interest in Mollies case. I hope hundreds are out searching day and night. She must be found.
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Praying for Mollie..hf


Very strange the dogs were locked in the basement.

Very very strange.
 Quoting: abeliever


Maybe. Maybe not.

We don’t know if that was a common thing that she did or not.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


The mother said that when anybody was in the shared home, the dogs were allowed to roam free. They were, in fact, there for protection as much as company.

Mom believes she was not abducted from the home, for this very reason:

Mollie (or the other cohabitants) would ALWAYS have the dogs around here, when they were in the house. ALWAYS.

That's the mom's conclusion.

The other possibility is that someone who might have been stalking her waited for her to depart jogging, enter the unlocked house, and LOCKED the basement door, just in case during the abduction something went wrong, it would take more than a simple swipe to open the door by the victim.

Certainly possible. However at this point, it's just a clue to be followed up on. I cannot draw any direct inferences from the locked basement door...

...(except how difficult it would be for a canine to stand on a stairway, use its paws to grasp, twist, and open a door handle while standing on its hind legs, and without opposable thumbs....just closing the door is sufficient. Why LOCK it?)

Edit:

Also, if nobody locked the doors and windows to the place (admitted by boyfriend & others)....why would they lock an INSIDE door??
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


I found these tidbits interesting......


Mollie's mom told DailyMail.com that all the items and clothes she took on her run have never been located.

These include her Fitbit, a gold-colored iPhone 7s in a protective case, some white earbuds and an armband pouch she used to hold the handset while she ran.


Mollie would often walk from Dalton Jack's place back to her mom's house in Bear Drive to eat with her brothers Scott, 17 and Jake, 21.

She shares a Silver Pontiac G6 with Jake that she would usually use each morning for the 15-mile journey to her job at the Grinnell Regional Medical Center in Grinnell, Iowa.

But on the morning of July 19 she didn’t turn up at the family home and failed to reply when Jake texted to ask if she needed a ride.





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thank you i so agree. whenever missing kids come up, i never understood how parents showed no emotion.i like you would be inconsolable. I watched an interview of probly what you said,, but i thought she praised the cops even so you bring a good point. I always wonder about the boyfriends but i guess he is completly ruled out. keep us posted and have a nice day
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Twitter of local, on the street reporter who's been featured on Fox News, and has done multiple interviews with the owner of the pig farm

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Devil's advocate: Suppose she was pregnant?

Say she took a test, and it came back positive. Suppose she was nervous, because BF didn't want children (MissCleo's motive for the BF).

Who would she tell first? Would she keep it a secret from her best girlfriends? (doubtful) Keep it a secret from her own mother? (maybe)

But if she was scared about, IDK, being killed for being pregnant, why on earth would she only tell the one man who she fears might break up with her/abduct her?

In my opinion, IF she was pregnant, she would have told somebody. A friend, her doctor, her girlfriends, a trusted family member, etc.

Or, perhaps the pregnant Mollie was planning on telling her family after her evening jog...on the hottest night of summer....alone. Yeah, sounds like a pregnant woman.


So, unless the boyfriend is pulled out of a trunk with candy bars and piss jugs, like Rae Wiggins/Carruth, I think this is all a false trail. Respectfully.

Let's just find Mollie and ask her. I mean, it's our business now, right?
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If the couple is unwed (and another family wedding pending) she would probably wait to talk to him about it first. Or that happened... and he said they would talk about it when he got back from the construction job or after the brother's wedding was over to make an announcement. Pregnant women do jog and maintain all normal activity.
Just saying that pregnancy is a motive. Hope not, that's tragic.
Maybe she ran away... that's a possibility too. There is no signs of a struggle that they have found yet...

The dogs is a big clue. Someone who knew the dogs would have had to lock them in the basement. Perhaps she did before she went jogging but why not leave them in the house.

Police do play the waiting game. They have a suspect and they just wait until they break or there's a break in the case from a new clue. Sometimes it takes a few days for people to recall things that were odd and come forward. So interesting how detective work happens.
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Praying for Mollie..hf


Very strange the dogs were locked in the basement.

Very very strange.
 Quoting: abeliever


Maybe. Maybe not.

We don’t know if that was a common thing that she did or not.
 Quoting: A1Janitor


The mother said that when anybody was in the shared home, the dogs were allowed to roam free. They were, in fact, there for protection as much as company.

Mom believes she was not abducted from the home, for this very reason:

Mollie (or the other cohabitants) would ALWAYS have the dogs around here, when they were in the house. ALWAYS.

That's the mom's conclusion.

The other possibility is that someone who might have been stalking her waited for her to depart jogging, enter the unlocked house, and LOCKED the basement door, just in case during the abduction something went wrong, it would take more than a simple swipe to open the door by the victim.

Certainly possible. However at this point, it's just a clue to be followed up on. I cannot draw any direct inferences from the locked basement door...

...(except how difficult it would be for a canine to stand on a stairway, use its paws to grasp, twist, and open a door handle while standing on its hind legs, and without opposable thumbs....just closing the door is sufficient. Why LOCK it?)

Edit:

Also, if nobody locked the doors and windows to the place (admitted by boyfriend & others)....why would they lock an INSIDE door??
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


I found these tidbits interesting......


Mollie's mom told DailyMail.com that all the items and clothes she took on her run have never been located.

These include her Fitbit, a gold-colored iPhone 7s in a protective case, some white earbuds and an armband pouch she used to hold the handset while she ran.


Mollie would often walk from Dalton Jack's place back to her mom's house in Bear Drive to eat with her brothers Scott, 17 and Jake, 21.

She shares a Silver Pontiac G6 with Jake that she would usually use each morning for the 15-mile journey to her job at the Grinnell Regional Medical Center in Grinnell, Iowa.

But on the morning of July 19 she didn’t turn up at the family home and failed to reply when Jake texted to ask if she needed a ride.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Maybe creepy pedo has her hidden somewhere. like in the woods in a bunker or a buried container? Like Kala Brown. Why would he killer, he's just a creeper, not a murderer... unless she fought back.

What is the route from Bear drive and back?

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Re: RE: the missing Iowa girl.....
I see her near a large industrial sized fan close by her, like in a factory or plant near where she is. wooded area, within 20 miles of where she went missing. And one of those old bomb shelter signs, black and yellow, is also close by.

Wish I could know if this pans out to be accurate.
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Bear creek is coming up for me.
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Re: RE: the missing Iowa girl.....
I’m seeing the pig man hacking her up and feeding her to the pigs.

FBI went back to talk to him ... he refused a lie detector test.

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I’m seeing the pig man hacking her up and feeding her to the pigs.

FBI went back to talk to him ... he refused a lie detector test.

[link to www.foxnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: A1Janitor


He's probably worried about 3 strikes.
or he killed her. and that would be tragic.

Why do we allow stalkers and criminals out of jail?
Do we have so many law breakers that there is no space for them? Is our law system failing?

Build thousands of more jails. Increase the death penalty. Reform prisoners with lobotomies if they refuse to transition to non-criminal life. Allow prison assisted suicide.

If a woman can't go out jogging in Small Town America and kids can't go to school without bullet proof bookbags... then what the hell?

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Re: RE: the missing Iowa girl.....
I’m headed to work right now, so I will add more to this later. However something stinks. I just was watching the press conference with the parents.
Not only did neither of them not show any emotion whatsoever, which is possible if they are in shock, still strange, but they were way too structured, and lacking any empathy whatsoever on camera. They also kept praising the media , Making sure people knew they thought the media was incredible.
Does anybody else find that strange? I will get back on here for the discussion in about an hour, just want to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!
Ps, I would be inconsolable if my child were missing. And again, people react differently to stressful situations but this just seems odd to me.
Be back soon!
 Quoting: Esoterica


Some loose ends:

> Who last saw Mollie alive?

Neighbor Nate Howood saw her on West Pershing Drive at 7:30 pm, July 18

(source: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] )

> Dogs locked in basement (??)

According to the mother, the two dogs which included a pit-bull lab mix, were "locked in the basement".

> Red shirt

Mom says Mollie had two (2) red work shirts, but that they were both found in her room. It remains unclear if the red shirt found at the hog farm is Mollie's.

>Where did Mollie work?
This summer it was at daycare center, at the Grinnell Medical Center....

....which was 15 minutes away from the house.

Who else lived 15 minutes away? Old Wayne Cheney.


But here's my new stumbling point: the dogs!!
Yes, it's possible Mollie locked up the dogs, whom she was ostensibly there to look after, in the basement.

Doubtful.

Who DID put the dogs down there-- where they couldn't protect Mollie?

This, I believe, may be crucial to understanding what happened.

Hope this helps, GLP. Pray for Mollie.

Edit: More dog thoughts

Nobody said anything about the condition of the dogs. If they had been killed, maimed, etc., in addition to being found "locked" in the basement.

IF they were (and police aren't saying), THAT would indicate an intrusion/abduction inside the domicile. Which, has not been confirmed yet.

If the dogs were found unharmed, that still begs the question WHO locked the protective dogs down there, and WHY?

Possible scenario:
Truck pulls over side of road by house, turns hazards on.

Man knocks on door, says, "Yeah my truck broke down, can I use your [whatever]?" and then, say, uses a taser to subdue victim quickly and silently.

Silently--- what about the dogs? The MIGHT allow Mollie to open the door to a stranger, after barking to alert his presence. They MIGHT even be calm while he talks with her. But if an act of physical violence or intimidation (or even picking up on the subconscious fear cues of Mollie) were to occur, I cannot believe two loyal large dogs would not rip the living throat out of an attacker.

And yet..... the dogs were in the basement.

Did that happen before, or after, say, 7:30 PM?

Did stalker, who had been watching her, wait for her to leave on the run, then enter the dwelling (which was admittedly NOT locked or secured- source: BF) then somehow get the dogs in the basement?

Possibly. Hell, throw a hunk of meat down there, or use some kind of pepper spray on the dogs, I don't know. But someone put the dogs down there, at some point that evening.

I do not believe Mollie put the dogs in the basement. I do not believe she locked the basement door.

But somebody did.
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


Mollie puts dogs in basement so the person can use the phone without dogs barking, then he deploys the taser. Your theory is solid, he just played nice guy long enough for her to put the dogs away. Once the dogs are in basement THEN
His real motive is shown
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Re: RE: the missing Iowa girl.....
I have been following this story and it is odd for sure. Did they ever see the location of last GPS signal from her phone?
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I just find it strange the Media cares enough about a WHITE IOWA GIRL MISSING
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why?
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