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Davis85 User ID: 76508818 United States 08/03/2018 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that it was when he made the heavens and the earth....but that's just my opinion. Also, my own opinion - a day to God is like a 1000 to us, so I don't think the world was made in literal 7 days. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] |
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DuckNCover User ID: 76809935 United States 08/03/2018 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is also confusing, is when you read Revelations. Where Satan rebels and his minions are cast out of Heaven. So did this part of Revelations occur around Chapter 3 of Genesis and was then put into the Book of Revelations, or is this an entirely new rebellion that takes out more Angels.... Then Satan is bound and his minions are cast into the sea of fire and die. Then Satan is let loose again after a 1000 years and the process continues. More rebellions and angels being cast out of Heaven??? You would think that since the Demon Angels could die in the lake of fire, that God would cast Satan in the lake of fire and there would be an end to Sin and the ways of death... It just seems like a continuous loop forever... |
Copperegla User ID: 1229765 United States 08/03/2018 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.logicalhierarchy.com (secure)] Satan is featured in heaven in the book of Job, which is post-garden of Eden. The key is that Revelation specifies that by mid Chapter 12 there is "no place" for Satan anymore in heaven. Therefore, presumably before that mid-Revelation 12 event there was some place for Satan in heaven. But the extent of Satan's (d)evolving place and role/function in heaven is a mystery to our perspectives on earth. Given that we call him today by the nickname/word "Satan", which means "accuser", suggests perhaps that one of his key functions (whether intended or not) was to accuse men in heaven. That appears to be suggested by the Book of Enoch. Anyway, everyone has a role in the great saga that the Creator reveals through angels and men. Last Edited by Copperegla on 08/03/2018 09:47 PM Matthew 7:2 & 7:12 are a prophecy specific to you, "By the judgment that you judge, you will be judged. And by the measure that you measure, you will be measured.... Whatever you want a person to do to you, do also to them, for this is the law and the prophets." |
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DuckNCover User ID: 76809935 United States 08/03/2018 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theory: around the year 1328AD Quoting: Copperegla [link to www.logicalhierarchy.com (secure)] Satan is featured in heaven in the book of Job, which is post-garden of Eden. The key is that Revelation specifies that by mid Chapter 12 there is "no place" for Satan anymore in heaven. Therefore, presumably before that mid-Revelation 12 event there was some place for Satan in heaven. But the extent of Satan's (d)evolving place and role/function in heaven is a mystery to our perspectives on earth. Given that we call him today by the nickname/word "Satan", which means "accuser", suggests perhaps that one of his key functions (whether intended or not) was to accuse men in heaven. That appears to be suggested by the Book of Enoch. Anyway, everyone has a role in the great saga that the Creator reveals through angels and men. I always heard that Satan was a beautiful angel. He made music as he flew through the sky of Heaven. God also gave Satan more knowledge than the other Angels. That is why he ultimately rebelled out of Pride... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76802220 United States 08/03/2018 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer refused to serve man and also God, thus committed the first original sin. Once Lucifer fell and landed on Earth like a blaze of light burning as it falls. And when he arrived on Earth in his fallen state, his name became Satan. Or Ha'Satan, in old Hebrew, which means "trouble-maker." Literally. The next implication is when Satan convinced Eve then also Adam to partake of the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge, is one scenario which begs the question of this act being as "partaking-of a sin" with Satan or does this start the "Original Sin," so often referred to today? The main point which affirms this theory is that Jesus covering us (redeeming) with the blood of the lamb - his sacrifice on the cross. But notice that Jesus also says that the ransom by the blood of the lamb is for all humanity, save one. Does this point directly to Lucifer / Satan not being "covered" by the blood of the lamb for committing the "Original Sin," and humanity only "partaking" in the sin of believing a lie? Something to think about... |
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ST In BG User ID: 71923002 United States 08/04/2018 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings: Apep: User ID: 76605861 08/03/2018 09:01 PM When did Satan get booted from Heaven? **Well As USUAL ... Those Of "Religions & Religious Beliefs" ... Mucked It All Up !!!! **1st WE (ETs) Start With A World That Used To Exit In The 5th Orbit Called Maldek (Or Lucifer The Light Bearer/Light Giver ... As It Was Seen As A Dawn Star From Terra/Earth !!) **This World Has A Companion Planet Malona Or Lilith ... A Vegetative Planet !! **The Planet Was 3rd Density ... It's People Similar To Those On Terra/Earth ... Though They Had "Psychic Abilities" Of Which Some There Misused !! ... & Then There Were Ones Of "Military/Conquest" Thinking ... That Wished To First Subjugate/Control Their Own Peoples ... And Then Use Maldek As A Launching Platform To Attack Other Living Worlds In That System ... As To Go Beyond & Further !! **The End Came There ... Of A Testing Of A Pure Hydrogen Bomb ... Of Which "Space Intelligences" Warned Them That They Could Blow Up Their Planet !! ... The Advice Was Ignored !! **The Fuse Was Lit !! ... And Since Hydrogen Is Present In Everything/Everything There .... Instantly Faster Then A Blink Of One's Eye ... A Great Flash Encompassed Maldek ... Which Of It's Energies ... Also Encompassed Malona As Well !! ... Both Planets Were Blown Outward Into Space !! **The Beings There Were Instantly Disembodied Of Their Energies !! ... Their Bodies Destroyed !! **Of These Disembodied Energies ... They Were Given A 2nd Chance & Allowed To Come To The Only Remaining 3rd Density World/Staging Ground In The Solaris Solar System !! ... They Were Allowed To Come To Terra/Earth !! **Of These Energies ... This Included The Ones Who Succeeded In Blowing Up Their Own Planet & Companion Planet ... Of Which They Took On Bodies Already Living ... Possessing Them ... And Being Born Into New Bodies !! ... The "Military Ones" ... Not Learning Their Lesson ... Then Went About To Start Again & Then Use Terra/Earth As Their Launching Platform !! .... They Almost Came To The Same Results Of Blowing Up Terra/Earth ... But This Time ... They "Partially" Listened To Space Intelligences ... & Rather Then Cancelling The Experiments Of A Hydrogen Bomb ... They Used Isotopes Of Hydrogen ... Which Saved Terra/Earth From Destruction !! **The Ones Who's Energies Came From The Old Orion Wars ... Continue Their Efforts To Subjugate Those Beings On Terra/Earth To Their Desires/Will ... & WOuld Desire To Use That Living World To Conquer/Control Others ... As It Was The Way Of The Old Orion Empire !! ... For The Moment ... For The "Present" They Are Kept Under Control ... & Thwarted Of Their Ideas & Designs !! **And THAT ... Is Of Your Termed "Satan" ... Not A "Singular Person" ... Which Was An INVENTION Of RELIGION ... To Use To Offset Their OTHER INVENTION ... GOD ... But Rather ... Of A Cosmic Event ... Of Which The Renderings/Tellings Have Been Changed/Distorted ... & Used For Religious Conversion !! **Maldek/Malona ... Was Not "Booted" From Space ... What Religions Have Distorted Into "Heaven" ... But They Were BLOWN UP ... LONG LONG AGO !!!! Farewell For Now !! ST In BG |
Base12 User ID: 72954797 United States 08/04/2018 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satan falls from the Future to the Past in an endless loop. Study the word 'Backward' in the KJV and you will see a pattern... Jeremiah 7:24 "But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward" Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
Boaty User ID: 75138722 United States 08/04/2018 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74850854 United States 08/04/2018 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pops said I'm not down with that and blamo! Down to earth the devil goes, he hides and waits for eve to pass by the tree and whispers her over, he talks her into eating the fruit that god said not to. And now here we are in a shitty world because of Lucifer and a Woman. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76828085 United States 08/09/2018 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was listening to audio of an exorcism quite some time ago of a young girl who was probably in her late teens. She had been struggling with her inner turmoil and had somehow ended up headed towards salvation. Apparently she had been possessed by several demons who were hanging around trying to draw her into her demise and bring her to hell because that was their mission they were sent four. One of the Demons was a female sort and she began to answer questions or being asked of her. She gave her name as asked and then was asked about why she was doing what she was doing. She said that she was doing it because if they went back to hell to Satan and reported without completing their mission they would be horribly tortured and tormented and it was very painful and awful for them. She said that she really missed being in heaven and being beautiful and that she didn't want to be evil like some of the other Dark Angels but she had no choice. She said that they had followed Satan because they thought that he knew what he was doing and it was the best choice at the time but she greatly regretted it and she wanted to be in heaven but she knew she couldn't be any more and she couldn't be beautiful anymore either. She said that it happened long before the Earth was even created |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76235389 United States 08/09/2018 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I know Satan still is in heaven and accusing the brethren. Revelation 12 shows when the man-child ascends and the restrainer is removed, Michael tosses Satan down to earth whereupon he then attacks Israel and the church, but they are miraculously protected. |
Unchained User ID: 76539270 United States 08/09/2018 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know. And if some one says they do, then I would probably not listen to that person. Anyway, my theory is after the announcement that humankind would be included as Sons and Daughters of God, the Devil and his kind, rebelled. Why? since humankind would have the upper hand on most of the spiritual and created realms once they served their (humankind) time on earth as fleshly creatures and freely submitted themselves to God. Those who don't submit to God's authority (Father) aren't part of that inheritance. The Door opened the passage Way (His only Son). Just my random thoughts and no, it has nothing to do with Mormonism (which is not a Christian belief system). |
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