Jacob is God's church, not the modern state of israel

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Oh,so you're part of the remnant that God keeps aside?

That is the church.

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History of the word church
Our word "Church" comes from the pre-medieval English word "Kirk.". It was primarily used in Scotland. It's old enough that its true origins are unknown.

Even in Revelation?Pretty sure all of Israel didn't return from exile when King Cyrus was appointed to build the temple.
Of those,it was the levites(remnant) who supervised building the temple.I'm pretty certain they built the gates as well.
Pretty symbolic don't you think?
The ones repairing the walls right(remnant) now are likely the ones who legitimately have a personal relationship with God.Hear his voice,given revelations in dreams,have visons.
Anybody can say they are led by the Holy Spirit and have discernment given by God while studying the word,only to be fooling themselves.Or worse,others.
That would be whitewashing.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

2 Thessalonians 3:10

It means that they are deceived. They are deceit incarnate.

We also see within scripture how Jesus completely replaces the Levite Priesthood which was temporary, with the Melchizedek Priesthood, which is Forever. Jesus is High Priest Forever under that order.

Scripture also shows that the Third Temple will descend from heaven.

A Spiritual Temple, for a Spiritual Israel.

Jews for Jesus.

There are a few around you know.

Chinese for Jesus. There are a few around you know.

Stop spamming the thread, spambot.

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earthly jerusalem cannot inherit,,, heavenly jerusalem is the free woman... easau persecutes jacob as the fleshly persecute the spiritual, so we have to make sure we dont trade our birthright for a mess of pottage

why are you cheering? Photina is wrong. Israel is Israel the church is separate and under separate covenants.

The title of Israel does not belong to christians, they do not replace Israel neither in prophecy nor in covenants.

This is the phony, satanic replacement theology. if you support it, then you are in the wrong too.

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Genesis 18:17-18
And the Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do; Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

Hebrews 11:10
For he [Abraham] looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

Jeremiah 31:31



"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Hebrews 8:13

galatians 3:16 ,19 to 30.

Galatians 3:16

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.

seed means one person? okay. im done.

Dont Just Cherry pick . Read jeremiah 31

Behold I bring them from the north country and gather them from the uttermost ends of the earth, the blind and the lame amongst them, the woman with child and she who travails with child all together; a great company shall they return there.
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And there is hope for your future, says the Lord, and the children shall return to their own border.

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That ISN'T talking about the modern state of Israel, it's referring to the CHURCH on the Last Day when we are gathered by angels.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matt 24:29-31

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Yeah I know about Jesus being the High Priest,replacing the Levite Priesthood.Look at the connections in the scripture regarding the remnant God sets aside.
When Moses said 'who is for God' only a remnant Rallied to him.It was the Levites.
Look at their duties.
who rebuilt the gates after Cyrus tells the Israelite's to rebuild the Temple.Who is the gate?
Who stands alongside the Lamb on mount Zion along with the roar of rushing water(spiritual water) and like a loud peal of thunder?Gods voice is like that of thunder.

The 144,000 will be have a double anointing like Elijah.Who also happens to be a remnant.
The Levite's(Remnant)rebuilt the gates/walls of Jerusalem.They'll do it again spirituality by being the Temples in which Jesus/Holy Spirit will teach in.
144,000 Apostles spread throughout the world.
No man made electronics will be needed.I.E Gideons army.

1 Cor 12:27
Now you are the Messiah's body and individual parts of it.

1 Corinthians 1:2
To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

Ephesians 4:12
to equip the saints for works of ministry, to build up the body of Christ,

Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions for the sake of His body, which is the church.

Has nothing to do with it total different context, book

Ummm
What?

God's church is inside the God knowing Human Being... it is not a place or a building or the name of a religion.

NOPE. Those who push urantia book as you do, do not know GOD at all and don't have the WHAT IS!!!

Which is this:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

only begotten means only 1, thus the multiple "sons" of urantia book are frauds.