The role of New Age practices in ancient Christianity.

It's because authentic spiritual practices make people strong and independent, the antithesis of a tyrannical political entity like the Roman empire of the day. I'm not defending all new age philosophy but meditative/energetic practices that bring internal refinement and overall success. It's ironic that within the Bible there are many such teachings.

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Yes exactly! The New Agers and Illuminati believe that Christianity is a perversion of their beliefs and practices when really maybe their practices are stollen from Christianity and are a perversion to God. A verse that comes to mind is from Timothy chapter 2. This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

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... and where does Yeshua fit in this understanding? ...
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I just wonder why yoga and meditation and other practices are so catered to the new age. Why can't Christianity incorporate these practices in to their worship.

Having a loving relationship with the divine is a form of yoga, bhakti yoga, and those with a pure heart who do so benefit from it. Even if a lot of a religion is invented or hijacked, the pure heart makes it authentic.

Bravo on the Bhakti yoga.

Um well, this is just a wild guess mind. But perhaps it's because they are satanic.

Meditation is hardly satanic, c'mon, I though you were wiser than that.

Meditation is a Christian practice.

Christianity is about the fact you are a sinner and will face judgement one day. How is yoga going to help?

Sin could be considered ignorance of our nature and yoga (meditation) helps remove the ignorance.

That is not what sin is.

I’m certainly no expert on this subject but it seems that one of the differences is that one tells you to empty/clear your mind and the other tells you to be filled with the Spirit. In other words, when a Believer meditates they think on the things of God and when a Buddhist meditates they think of nothing. Hope that makes sense to you.

How did you ever come to that impression? Everything is "Satanic" to Judethz unless his/her pastor said it isn't.

Emptying your mind is how you become filled with spirit. A mind that is preoccupied with it's own attachments to illusory things is not receptive to spirit.

This applies to Christians as well. Those Christians who actually do manage to become filled with spirit (far from everyone!), do it the same way Buddhists do it - by releasing attachments and emptying the mind, "surrendering to God".

You are confusing 'spirit' and 'The Spirit'.

Good morning all


Semantics really. But at least they’re looking into spiritual matters to better themselves and help others. Though some go about it the hard way sometimes.

Jesus and what he did for humanity isn’t the problem with most folks. The problem is they don’t know what to do after the cross, which reconciled man to God.

The problem is the church and religion in general. They call you useless “sinners”, abuse you and try to control you for their own gain…This was NEVER God’s intent…He wants to restore the relationship with His creation, not alienate it.

However, many of you understand this, in your heart but search for another way to obtain “Spirituality” and I simply don’t blame you.

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So you acknowledge you are a sinner in need of a savior, and that Jesus is that savior?

The church in various forms certainly have had and still have dire problems, this does not however mean the core doctrines of Christianity are wrong.

Obtaining spirituality might be nice, but if there is no recognition of sin, then where is repentance? If there is no repentance, where then is forgiveness?

I didn't say that, YOU did and once again you misunderstood me.

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Like I said, The problem with most folks isn't with Jesus and what He did on the cross, It's after the fact , that most have problems with.

Is it really that hard to understand folks?

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Can you explain what you think Jesus and the cross was about? You state that it was for reconciliation of man to God, but if not for sin, then what?

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Most folks don't want to be controlled or manipulated and for the most part, the current state of the church is a disaster. I can't help it if some of you don't "see" that.

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Ok I understand where you are coming from a little better....sorry for the confusion. I thought you were promoting a different gospel.

Still I don't think directing people away from places where they will hear the gospel, even if those places have some problems, is something to be promoted.

You clearly have issue with the church, however which church? Have you investigated all? I really would like to know more if you have the time.

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The same place as all the other woo woo practices.

I did not say it wasn't for sin, because it was and to reconcile the relationship between man and God, However, many just "stay" there, at he cross, in their spiritual walk and get absolutely no where because their teachers and shepherds want them there to control them.

God does have something to say on the matter and I would read it real carefully , for it is for those that "lead" the church. Not all of them of course, for He knows who has been doing what they are suppose to do.

Eze 34:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Eze 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

Eze 34:3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.

Eze 34:4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.

Eze 34:5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.

Eze 34:6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.

Eze 34:7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;

Eze 34:8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;

Eze 34:9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;

Eze 34:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.

Eze 34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

Eze 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

Eze 34:17 And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.

Eze 34:18 Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?

Eze 34:19 And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

Eze 34:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.

Eze 34:21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;

Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.

Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.

Eze 34:25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.

Eze 34:26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.

Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.

Eze 34:28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid.

Eze 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.

Eze 34:30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

Selah

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Last Edited by The Cherished One on 08/06/2018 01:15 PM

No, never dear brother, but I certainly understand "why" some seek another way.

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Ok cool I understand where you are at...I did totally misunderstand, my apologies. I am interested in where you are at, and why, so appreciate the response.

Quick response I can make is that yes there are institutions what are very wrong, however his true church is made of people, his people, and they are out there, and they do meet up in places.

Yes many of these places do have enemies among them, but this is even more reason why we should be out there in these places....teaching the truth.

I'm not saying all church's Brother nor am I even insinuating people not to come to Jesus. What I'm addressing here is the "Issue's" most folks have with the Church in general and its current state.

And it's ok about the confusion, for it is very difficult to communicate such things on the web at times...It happens A LOT...:)

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We're good Bro... :)

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Sinful acts stem from not realizing the divine nature within as Christ taught. That ignorance is the original sin.