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Supplies and faraday cage question
Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
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I would say the most important thing that electricity is used for is light and food preservation.

So what would be the most important things to put into a faraday cage would be to that end.

Flashlights, solar lights, solar pannels, small solar freezer, and if your cage is big enough...a small gas powered scooter.

(lots of gas to siphon from dead vehicles after an EMP).

Possibly some power tools (drill, saw, etc.)
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IMHO the best supplies in general to stock up on would be hand tools.

Saws and extra blades, axe, hammer/nails, tarps, blankets, oil lamps, and ofcourse M&Ms :)

And a good shovel to bury your poop!

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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
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ANY OLD MICROWAVE makes an excellent Faraday cage, cut off plug take all 3 wires and attach to grounding rod, at least 36" into soil

A plugged in microwave works in an emg situation also, just not as well

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When you wire the house could you not just use longer runs of wire and the power going through the wire to power the devices would create a distortion.

In the days when you could buy solid wire spark plug cables if the coil wire was made of that and you drove down the block every tv would bet static on the screed, switch the coil wire only to a carbon core one and the static stopped. The plug wires could stay solid core without messing up the tv.

I would think your remote location is enough security all by itself unless you can install something that is a drone killer.
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
i would start with a small faraday cage for a 20 watt (or so) solar panels, a powerbank, and a cell phone with survival books in the phone's storage.

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next level would be a few flashlights, two-way radios.

I don't do any of this as I doubt there would be an EMP powerful enough to destroy small devices.
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Can you do data over a ham radio set-up??
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
 Quoting: A Mommy


ANY OLD MICROWAVE makes an excellent Faraday cage, cut off plug take all 3 wires and attach to grounding rod, at least 36" into soil

A plugged in microwave works in an emg situation also, just not as well

(PRO TIP... DO NOT TURN ON MICROWAVE WITH ELECTRONICS [email protected])

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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
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make sure you have a old car to match the cage.
I.E. the items needed to make your car work again should fit the cage. i guess a resistor or something?

sorry im very uninformed about cars etc but i saw this in that one movie and it made sense to me.
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Can you do data over a ham radio set-up??
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
 Quoting: A Mommy


ANY OLD MICROWAVE makes an excellent Faraday cage, cut off plug take all 3 wires and attach to grounding rod, at least 36" into soil

A plugged in microwave works in an emg situation also, just not as well

(PRO TIP... DO NOT TURN ON MICROWAVE WITH ELECTRONICS [email protected])

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You stole my thunder about the microwave....
As for power tools: Simple electrical devices, such as appliances, power tools and wind generators will probably work, as long as they don’t have solid-state electronic controls.

Aside from microwave ovens.... Large metal garbage cans with a metal lid will also work.
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
My stuff in a metal storage cabinet.

Electronics stored in boxes or plastic:
4 pack of 2-way radios with chargers
Extra sets of rechargeable batteries
small 12v solar charger/battery charger
4 LED flashlights. 2 big, 2 small
old model handheld VHF/UHF scanner and spare battery (still works).

Basic food items (canned goods are in separate pantry):
Dried goods (beans/rice/pasta)
couple big jars of Peanut butter
Sugar
Baking soda
powdered milk
granulated bullion (chicken and beef)
big jar of local honey
Kosher salt
table salt
Instant coffee (better than nothing) and cocoa
A bunch of dehydrated fruits and veggies we make every year.
etc... We use all of this stuff, just move what we need to the kitchen cupboards and resupply as needed. powdered or bulk items are in plastic totes that we take from as needed

utility shelf stuff:
Family size lifestraw (never used, like the personal ones though)
seeds of everything we normally grow in our garden
canning supplies (spare reusable canning lids, pectin)
some cookbooks
2 oil lamps and oil (used when the power goes out)
bunch of unscented candles
big blister pack of lighters and a box of match packs
spool of paracord, spool of snare wire, spool of bailing twine
2pack guerrilla tape
plastic case of hand tools
2 Hand axes, pocket chainsaw (actually works good)
small sledge hammer and 2 splitting wedges
some old binoculars
sharpening stones, chain file
bottle of rubbing alcohol
large first aid kit
hand sickle
gallon of bleach
bunch of other misc things

Hope that helps a little.
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Space blankets and ductape.

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Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
 Quoting: A Mommy


make sure you have a old car to match the cage.
I.E. the items needed to make your car work again should fit the cage. i guess a resistor or something?

sorry im very uninformed about cars etc but i saw this in that one movie and it made sense to me.
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Hi everyone!! I havent posted much at all these last years but am quite a lurker still lol.. hopefully you guys can help!!

My husband has talked a long time about wanting to do a faraday cage. He's planning on making one and we were looking for actual necessities that could be put into it. The most important ones. The internet has recommendations but I'd rather get input from people who actual have one since you know best.

And in case of an empty, what are the best supplies in general to stock up on besides canned food and water? We live on a mountain, with river access (it's about a 20min hike). And we could collect rainwater no problem.

Looking for any insight!! Thanks in advance!!
 Quoting: A Mommy


For a faraday cage.... Use a Metal garbage can.
Line the inside with cardboard. This is just to stop any of its contents from touching the metal can. Do the lid as well.
Use tinfoil around the top edge before you put the lid on. This acts like a conductive gasket and helps to insure that there ar no gaps where emf could sneak in.

I'm still not sure about grounding the cans. I've read different theories. Mine are ungrounded for now. If you decide to ground them... Drill a 5/8" hole in your garage/shed/basement floor and hammer in an 8' grounding rod. You can buy the rod at most electrical supply stores. I purchased a copper clad (plated) one. Leave about 1" above the floor and clamp your ground wire to it.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
IMHO the best supplies in general to stock up on would be hand tools.

Saws and extra blades, axe, hammer/nails, tarps, blankets, oil lamps, and ofcourse M&Ms :)

And a good shovel to bury your poop!
 Quoting: Mental Case


No need to waste space in your Faraday Cage with crap like saw blades, nails and blankets, those things can't be harmed by an EMP.

It's your electronics (the more delicate ones) you are worried about putting in there.
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Can you do data over a ham radio set-up??
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Yes, many packet radio users have links to arpnet which then links to the internet, and if setup up correctly, it can use email protocols. There are Ham packet robots (which is a box that takes the data from a computer and transmits it to the Ham station for broadcast)that can take any computer file and transmit that over the air.
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Ammo cans make nice portable emp proof containers.

Get the paint of the lip of the can, then remove rubber gasket from lid. Sand underneath where the gasket was...so you have metal on metal contact...then stuff the lid ( where the gasket used to be) with steel wool...just keep packing it in there. Test with sticking cell phone it and them call it after u close it...if it is on and goes straight to VM, then u have nothing going in or out.

I keep my goal zero stuff in there, my radio, electronic hearing , an old tablet that I put survival PDFs and survival offline apps on it.
Along with electronic optics, and my GPS (not expecting GPS SATs will be up in a time of emergency , but I'd be nice. I use my GPS almost every weekend Garmin 401 nice compact gets job done and I can slap it on my buttstock of my rifle.
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
i thought microwaves, etc. weren't necessarily effective and the cell-phone-test wasn't a good test because it was a different frequency or wave length or something?
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
This is great! Thank you guys! And i appreciate the advice on other things to stock up on as well!! Ive written all this down! Never thought of having an extra tablet with survival apps.. Thats a great idea too!
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I just realized this was pinned! My first pinned post! Lol.. Yay!
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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
This is great! Thank you guys! And i appreciate the advice on other things to stock up on as well!! Ive written all this down! Never thought of having an extra tablet with survival apps.. Thats a great idea too!
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You can load all of this (or selected parts of it) to a USB Thumb Drive or burn to a DVD...

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Re: Supplies and faraday cage question
Here are a few links that might help.

Getting Prepared for an Electromagnetic Pulse Attack or Severe Solar Storm
[link to www.futurescience.com]

Action You Can Take Against the Body Penetrating Effects of Electromagnetic Fields
[link to www.lessemf.com]

EMP 101: Part IV—Faraday Cages
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Definitely putting that on my list.
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