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Documenting internet censorship

 
Boaty

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So I bought a domain a while back that could be used to start documenting instances of internet censorship.

The idea is anyone could anonymously submit evidence of censorship they experience or witness. Then others could anonymously 'upvote' to corroborate that the censorship indeed occurred.

If it became popular enough, over time statistics about which platforms censored what and who could be tabulated. Perhaps enough to prove there is a deliberate attempt to censor conservatives, but it would be open to all voices conservative or not.

What do you guys think? Is it worth my time and effort to build it?
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Boaty  (OP)

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08/08/2018 08:56 PM

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No thoughts on this from anyone reading GLP tonight?
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Shamelessly self pinning for discussion, thoughts about this idea.
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08/08/2018 09:03 PM
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Definately build it. But first, weren't you "BoatyMcBoatface"? I'd go back-classic avatar, dude (the story behind it was good too).
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So I bought a domain a while back that could be used to start documenting instances of internet censorship.

The idea is anyone could anonymously submit evidence of censorship they experience or witness. Then others could anonymously 'upvote' to corroborate that the censorship indeed occurred.

If it became popular enough, over time statistics about which platforms censored what and who could be tabulated. Perhaps enough to prove there is a deliberate attempt to censor conservatives, but it would be open to all voices conservative or not.

What do you guys think? Is it worth my time and effort to build it?
 Quoting: Boaty


I'm here but it's a lot to take in for me anyway..

Can I think about it? or is a kneejerk you are looking for.
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08/08/2018 09:05 PM

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Tools are useful for long term documentation. Reminds me of those web sites that keep track of what promises Trump has kept so far in his 1st term, and which ones he hasn't completed yet.

But this would be a bit more crowd sourced...

But as long as there is a decent gate keeper to make sure exaggerations are not getting through, it should be very useful.
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Boaty  (OP)

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Definately build it. But first, weren't you "BoatyMcBoatface"? I'd go back-classic avatar, dude (the story behind it was good too).
 Quoting: WEDGE5th


Yes, but there's also a good story behind why I changed it. It's for mostly personal reasons. If you're interested, PM me and I'll share it.
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Thoughts do not come from you; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie.
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Psalm 46:10
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08/08/2018 09:11 PM

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Yes , definitely build it !
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08/08/2018 09:12 PM
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No thoughts on this from anyone reading GLP tonight?
 Quoting: Boaty


Maybe it has something to do with making a statement, then punctualizing with "poll"
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Tools are useful for long term documentation. Reminds me of those web sites that keep track of what promises Trump has kept so far in his 1st term, and which ones he hasn't completed yet.

But this would be a bit more crowd sourced...

But as long as there is a decent gate keeper to make sure exaggerations are not getting through, it should be very useful.
 Quoting: Coppercoal


The idea would involve various forms of checks to ensure no-one is 'upvoting' more than once, spam detection, etc. All of those tools I've already explored through various other projects I've experimented with, so I think I can pull it off while still keeping submissions and votes anonymous. I think leaving it to the community/crowd sourcing it, can be practical and accurate.
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Thoughts do not come from you; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie.
2 Corinthians 10:5
Psalm 46:10
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Tools are useful for long term documentation. Reminds me of those web sites that keep track of what promises Trump has kept so far in his 1st term, and which ones he hasn't completed yet.

But this would be a bit more crowd sourced...

But as long as there is a decent gate keeper to make sure exaggerations are not getting through, it should be very useful.
 Quoting: Coppercoal


So someone has to find the good Gatekeepers of which there are feck all..just sayin'
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Tools are useful for long term documentation. Reminds me of those web sites that keep track of what promises Trump has kept so far in his 1st term, and which ones he hasn't completed yet.

But this would be a bit more crowd sourced...

But as long as there is a decent gate keeper to make sure exaggerations are not getting through, it should be very useful.
 Quoting: Coppercoal


The idea would involve various forms of checks to ensure no-one is 'upvoting' more than once, spam detection, etc. All of those tools I've already explored through various other projects I've experimented with, so I think I can pull it off while still keeping submissions and votes anonymous. I think leaving it to the community/crowd sourcing it, can be practical and accurate.
 Quoting: Boaty


That’d be awesome!
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08/08/2018 09:33 PM

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So I bought a domain a while back that could be used to start documenting instances of internet censorship.

The idea is anyone could anonymously submit evidence of censorship they experience or witness. Then others could anonymously 'upvote' to corroborate that the censorship indeed occurred.

If it became popular enough, over time statistics about which platforms censored what and who could be tabulated. Perhaps enough to prove there is a deliberate attempt to censor conservatives, but it would be open to all voices conservative or not.

What do you guys think? Is it worth my time and effort to build it?
 Quoting: Boaty


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08/08/2018 09:42 PM
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Maybe already a site doing this, but who has ever heard or found the website?

I haven't, so I say go for it!
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08/08/2018 09:44 PM
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Maybe already a site doing this, but who has ever heard or found the website?

I haven't, so I say go for it!
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Ah go, on feck it! Massive responsibility though.
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08/08/2018 09:53 PM

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No thoughts on this from anyone reading GLP tonight?
 Quoting: Boaty


Sounds like a massive headache to me lol. Censorship is on the rise and to keep a track of and record it would take a small army imo.

I would vote no but didn't want to label you a dipshit so add another no to it, be free and watch Rome burn with a cold one cos realistically theirs nowt we can do about it til the war comes hf
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Name and shame!
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 Quoting: Boaty


Sounds like a massive headache to me lol. Censorship is on the rise and to keep a track of and record it would take a small army imo.

I would vote no but didn't want to label you a dipshit so add another no to it, be free and watch Rome burn with a cold one cos realistically theirs nowt we can do about it til the war comes hf
 Quoting: curry nosher


LOL - I gave the 'dipshit' part to the trolls. But if you don't think it's feasible, that's okay too.

I agree it would be a massive undertaking if it became popular enough.

I've already looked into many of the pitfalls. I know the right webhost, the right ddos protection; I have a slew of tools to make sure posters are legit and votes aren't fake (as best as those tools can provide, anyway).

I don't have a lot of money or anything like that, but I can market it to the right people if it becomes more I can bear on my own. 501.3(C) is a possibility, too. Who knows.
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Thoughts do not come from you; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie.
2 Corinthians 10:5
Psalm 46:10
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 Quoting: Boaty


Sounds like a massive headache to me lol. Censorship is on the rise and to keep a track of and record it would take a small army imo.

I would vote no but didn't want to label you a dipshit so add another no to it, be free and watch Rome burn with a cold one cos realistically theirs nowt we can do about it til the war comes hf
 Quoting: curry nosher


LOL - I gave the 'dipshit' part to the trolls. But if you don't think it's feasible, that's okay too.

I agree it would be a massive undertaking if it became popular enough.

I've already looked into many of the pitfalls. I know the right webhost, the right ddos protection; I have a slew of tools to make sure posters are legit and votes aren't fake (as best as those tools can provide, anyway).

I don't have a lot of money or anything like that, but I can market it to the right people if it becomes more I can bear on my own. 501.3(C) is a possibility, too. Who knows.
 Quoting: Boaty


Nah, it's a big stepping stone that's all, I have plenty of material and I'll be behind ya, just give me a knudge in the right direction is all. But as for money honey, that is obsolete. Knowledge is the key these days.
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So I bought a domain a while back that could be used to start documenting instances of internet censorship.

The idea is anyone could anonymously submit evidence of censorship they experience or witness. Then others could anonymously 'upvote' to corroborate that the censorship indeed occurred.

If it became popular enough, over time statistics about which platforms censored what and who could be tabulated. Perhaps enough to prove there is a deliberate attempt to censor conservatives, but it would be open to all voices conservative or not.

What do you guys think? Is it worth my time and effort to build it?
 Quoting: Boaty


Shit Yeah Go For It.

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Excellent idea.
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08/08/2018 11:49 PM

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It would be an interesting study in social dynamics, but I think it's going to be a lot more complex than you think, beginning with, what is your definition of "censorship?"

For instance, are you limiting the scope to examples of accounts being deleted? What about post moderation where profanity is automatically detected and altered? What about autobans on GLP?

And once you define it, verification of every submitted instance of censorship based on that definition will take manpower you don't have, unless you have some amazing algorithm for automatic verification.

And taking it one step further, if I were to submit something that I think is an example of censorship, but it doesn't meet your criteria and my post is rejected, isn't that a form of censorship in itself?

If you decide to do it I would love to monitor the site and the results. I think it would be fascinating. But I'm not sure you realize the scope of work you are setting yourself up for.

Good luck!

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08/09/2018 12:02 AM
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One site I am watching can't figure out how to rewrite a story from the 70's. I think they should let his daughter write what she thinks would be the ending she wants people to read about her dad in history.
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Do it!


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Great idea, but you are going to have so much petty butthurt to filter through, AFTER you filter out all the bot & spam stuff.

Sounds daunting to keep semi-realtime without staff!

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No thoughts on this from anyone reading GLP tonight?
 Quoting: Boaty


Sounds like a massive headache to me lol. Censorship is on the rise and to keep a track of and record it would take a small army imo.

I would vote no but didn't want to label you a dipshit so add another no to it, be free and watch Rome burn with a cold one cos realistically theirs nowt we can do about it til the war comes hf
 Quoting: curry nosher


LOL - I gave the 'dipshit' part to the trolls. But if you don't think it's feasible, that's okay too.

I agree it would be a massive undertaking if it became popular enough.

I've already looked into many of the pitfalls. I know the right webhost, the right ddos protection; I have a slew of tools to make sure posters are legit and votes aren't fake (as best as those tools can provide, anyway).

I don't have a lot of money or anything like that, but I can market it to the right people if it becomes more I can bear on my own. 501.3(C) is a possibility, too. Who knows.
 Quoting: Boaty


It's not that i think it isn't feasible, far from it, it's just that i think it would be a very time consuming and involved project but if you are up to it then why not, it could be a useful resource hf
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Yes then we can submit it to congress
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Yes then we can submit it to congress
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Who will censor it.