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NYT: The Constitution Is An Out-Dated, Anti-Democratic Relic

 
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The NYT has dummies writing for them. The Senate originally represented STATE governments not the citizens of those states that is what the House is for. The Senators used to be selected by the State legislature, instead of elected by the citizens of the state, to represent the state legislature in Congress. That's why each state gets two and is not based on the population of the state.
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And it should be this way again. The States themselves need representation as a balance.
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Yes, this is what helped erode state power.
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The Constitution IS NOT DEMOCRATIC at all! DUH.....

We have a Constitutional Republic. NEVER a democracy.

The Constitution IS NOT MEANT to save us by itself. It is meant so that WE, The People- THAT WE SAVE OURSELVES by outlining and codifying our Natural RIGHTS, given us by our Creator! EVERY STATE CONSTITUTION has in the very first line thanks to the Creator. Each one is different, but there it is.

That NO MAN/NO ONE can take those Rights away, EVER!

If they try, the 2nd Amendment is specifically FOR THE PURPOSE OF KEEPING THOSE RIGHT. (after all other forms have been exhausted)

If the Constitution is banned, then ALL AUTHORITY is NULL & VOID. The USA will not have a Legislature, Judicial or Executive Branches. No official military. No official police/FBI or any other agency. NO RULE OF LAW. The Constitution is the reason for being-of the USA. It is our foundation, which is why the commie baby-killers want to destroy it so badly-they foam at the mouth about it, and must (eventually) be put down like the rabid dogs they are.

Without it we are in anarchy.

Those that choose to work for banning our Constitution are a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to WE, THE PEOPLE.
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I do believe your very first line is the central issue causing some major panic as to folks starting to figure this out. Anarchy never works out well for very long.

And I would totally support rewriting it to include that missing 13th Amendment. That right there would solve a lot of shady shit that plagues us today.

Oh...and to whomever on this thread gave me red karma, all I can say is I must've touched a nerve about mentioning the inclusion of this mysterious amendment. Oh, and you forgot to sign your red karma vote, bless your heart.
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Term limits should be the only modification to the Constitution.
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They are mad that the framers wrote it in such a way as to protect us from assholes like them.

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Think the Constitution Will Save Us? Think Again

The subversion of democracy was the explicit intent of the framers.

Consider a few facts: Donald Trump is in the White House, despite winning almost three million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton. The Senate, the country’s most powerful legislative chamber, grants the same representation to Wyoming’s 579,315 residents as it does to 39,536,653 Californians. Key voting rights are denied to citizens in the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and other United States territories. The American government is structured by an 18th-century text that is almost impossible to change.

These ills didn’t come about by accident; the subversion of democracy was the explicit intent of the Constitution’s framers. For James Madison, writing in Federalist No. 10, “Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention” incompatible with the rights of property owners. The byzantine Constitution he helped create serves as the foundation for a system of government that rules over people, rather than an evolving tool for popular self-government.

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The National Enquirer has more real news than the New York Times. No Sane Person Reads Either One
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The downfall spiral of the once high and mighty!
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They honestly believe their own shit!
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They honestly believe their own shit!
 Quoting: Maddog11B


Because they are fucking commies!
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Hey NTY, 3 letters for you: WAR

The only way the Marxists will stop is when they are met with real force. The time of the communist cleansing is near.
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Hey NTY, 3 letters for you: WAR

The only way the Marxists will stop is when they are met with real force. The time of the communist cleansing is near.
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This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
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NY Times owned by A Muslim from Mexico
 Quoting: jake


this1

Nuff said...

This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


I think we are all completely sick of the fucking AMERICA HATERS...

If you don't like it here... go somewhere else and see if that government will bend it's rules for you.

Still the greatest country in the world.

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Term limits should be the only modification to the Constitution.
 Quoting: Flintdick


It's lesser the term limits that are the problem and more so us being given, and then us "selecting," shitty people to run our country.

We need to understand and except our own culpability in the downfall of our nation if we ever hope to regain our strength.

It's everybody's fault. Sure, originally it was the evil elites, but now we've allowed ourselves to become so corrupted through fear and intimidation of death, that we are essentially living a dystopian nightmare without realizing there is another choice.

The choice?

Stop being so fearful of breaking other people's fake, dumb laws/rules or offending them. If you know you're right, speak your mind and stand your ground.
This here's bat country...
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Kind of goes along with what the walking corpse ginsburg said about the U.S. constitution in 2012.

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The New York Times Is An Out-Dated, Anti-Democratic Relic
 Quoting: fromthefuture


May I add owned by a non citizen of USA, pays lots of wages, buys lots of paper & demands cash to view website.

NYT and it's OPED makes no rules here in the land of the free.

Americans trust Americans more.

What is America's true news source?

REUTERS?

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NY Times owned by A Muslim from Mexico
 Quoting: jake


this1

Nuff said...

This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


I think we are all completely sick of the fucking AMERICA HATERS...

If you don't like it here... go somewhere else and see if that government will bend it's rules for you.

Still the greatest country in the world.
 Quoting: Question EVERYTHING


I hate America because I simply point out that what was posted was an opinion piece rather than a fact-based one? Okay, then...
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This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard

Sounds to me like their pushing

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

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NYT = ——> Nazi propaganda
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Still need more proof that the MSM is the enemy of the American People?
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Actually if they wanted to report accurately, their article would say 'Trump won by 77 electoral votes'. We the people do not vote in a President directly - popular vote is completely irrelevant - we vote for electors.

And THAT is what makes the United States of America a Republic and NOT a Democracy!

So many people slept through civics class (including myself)....... Glad I woke up and started educating myself.
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Still need more proof that the MSM is the enemy of the American People?
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"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

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"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

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This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard

Sounds to me like their pushing

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

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f'n commies
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The New York Times Is An Out-Dated, Anti-Democratic Relic
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We are a Republic first and foremost...

The Constitution was, and still is, near perfect for us...


Pure Democracy always ends in with oligarchies and mob rules...



It was written for a democratic republic to overcome the flaws inherent in pure democracy...


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This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard

Sounds to me like their pushing

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

 Quoting: GLP Saved Me

f'n commies
 Quoting: Blessed Ev


Yes, but the Communist Takeover of the U.S. is continuing regardless what we do. There's no way to properly deal with this Communist Takeover of the U.S. without it involving up to alot of physical violence, and that's how the Communists are winning.

They know how to bide their time, who to sacrifice, and generally stay hidden both in plain sight and in the shadows. They have decades of successes in subversion of a number of countries. If they can successfully take over the U.S. that's it for Humanity.
The number one and two participants in the Oppression Olympics? The SJWs and Feminists.

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

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This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard

Sounds to me like their pushing

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

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NY Times owned by A Muslim from Mexico
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Facebook should ban the NYTimes for hate speech.
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The union was to be more excellent, more perfect, the perfect bond of union. What happened?

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Let them with understanding try to subvert
the constitution of The United States.

I wish them well in their effort as long
as their effort is within the law.

If they choose to go against the laws of the United States,
then welcome to your funerals!

Follow the law or be lawless!
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NY Times owned by A Muslim from Mexico
 Quoting: jake


this1

Nuff said...

This is an OPINION piece, not a fact-based one.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


I think we are all completely sick of the fucking AMERICA HATERS...

If you don't like it here... go somewhere else and see if that government will bend it's rules for you.

Still the greatest country in the world.
 Quoting: Question EVERYTHING


I hate America because I simply point out that what was posted was an opinion piece rather than a fact-based one? Okay, then...
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


All I read is "Opinion" written articles from the progressive left, that frames the exact same question... And it seemed to start under Obama... where the constitution and bill of rights should be gotten rid of, because it's outdated. Now, I respect people and their opinions, but when you have a monopoly with the progressive left who have infiltrated every sector of our country, who spew nothing but hatred for this country...

And where I'm coming from is simply that if you have a differing opinion from theirs, they want to destroy your life. And we have seen this play out time and time again. So, we have this same reoccurring narrative running over and over, but they want to have a socialist system where we have all of our rights stripped from us, and they lord over us, telling us what to think and say.

There is no question that the schooling system has beaten into our children to be obedient subjects, and not thoughtful citizens that practice the trivium philosophy. So, we have a lot of young people coming up, and they all think that Capitalism is evil, and that social controls are necessary.

The very people that are the preachers have weaponized our system and turned it against us. Now, wrong is write, up is down, left is right, Satan is good, God is bad, government shouldn't be questioned... You get the point.

This where I'm coming from. We have places like Venezuela that is dying under socialist control... and people are eating zoo animals and food out of dumpsters, but our news won't even report the absolute horrors of all these other places that practice the very thing that the writer of the opinion article likely advocates.

I am not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying that this still is the greatest country in the world... and we have people within, that want to destroy it.
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The New York Times Is An Out-Dated, Anti-Democratic Relic
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