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"Stand proudly for your National Anthem or be Suspended Without Pay!" The use and abuse of patriotism for demagoguery.
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"Raise a black power fist and kneel for your national anthem!"

is that better for you?

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What's the Difference between NFL Player's and Alex Jones? Both are FREEDOM OF SPEECH. While I don't agree with everything Alex Jones says I think his Right To FREEDOM OF SPEECH is being VIOLATED. NFL Player's should have the SAME FREEDOM without all the HATE. ..
 Quoting: TriniBadBoy


While the player's may be expressing free speech. They're viewers are expressing they're freedom to turn them off. Big media takes partisan stance, instead of being neutral, I turn them off. When PayPal plays politics and blocks companies because they disagree with what they do, I block PayPal.

Everyone should have the freedom of speech, but business is business. Player's are businessmen, they are selling entertainment. Whether you are an entertainer or selling something else, you should be keeping personal feeling and opinions out of it, as long as you can do it without compromising your values. If you find that in some situation this is not possible, i.e. baking a gay cake. You should have the right to say no, just remember your customer have the right to say no as well.

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But this is America, you do have freedom of speech, but however you choose to exercise that right will still have consequences.

The reason this is different from the public sphere of social media is the barrier to entry. NFL players acquire an extremely difficult to obtain platform that represents a whole city or region, while a pundit on fb or yt or twit only represents himself, and maybe his followers.

Millions of people don't depend on the NFL to share their opinion. They watch it to escape the doldrums of life. And when they feel the politics seeping into an outlet of escapism, it rankles them. Free speech begets free speech.

Private businesses that cater to a subset of the population can be expected to police their user base to maintain a culture that matches their founding principles. That's acceptable, and laudable in a free society. Let there be a black club, a white club, an atheist club, or a religious club, or a labor club, or a business club. And let there be non-violent opposition clubs for all of these groups. As long as the "club" is social and composed of individuals - no private organization should pretend to or actually enjoy the powers of Public governance, outside of what the rights to free speech and assembly allow them to lobby for. But their targets should always be the voters and not the men and women voted into office. Corruption of an official sworn to defend the Constitution, and a government designed to be of the People, for the People, should be a high crime. When "clubs" consist of Public officials and billionaires working in secret to manipulate the lawful government, the People suffer.

Private institutions that become ubiquitous to the degree that their use becomes a borderline necessity to be a normal part of the greater American society should be held to higher, American standards.

So if a player in the NFL wants to take a knee? That's fine with me. I defend everyone's right to protest. But I hate the choice made to subvert the emblem of the land that gives them the freedom to do so. And I will never watch an NFL game again because of it.
 Quoting: Dandroix


It's not about their right to protest, it's about them protesting on someone else's dime. They are employed to entertain. This is not their platform. Can you protest at your job? Boss let you burn flags during work time? No.

My personal issue is, I turn on TV on Sunday to watch football. Not hear their social or political opinions. I don't give 2 shits about the players opinions on anything outside of football. Hell, I don't even care if they are smart enough to spell football. If I want politics, I have the 24 hour pundit networks (disguised as cable news) for that.
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"Stand proudly for your National Anthem or be Suspended Without Pay!" The use and abuse of patriotism for demagoguery.
 Quoting: LiteaFart



I know your brain is hard-wired to the left. People like you - particularly if you're much older than in your, say, 30's or 40's - should be studied by researchers to understand reasons why certain humans are innately devoid of common sense, honesty and ethics. Probably actual humaneness too.



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Wouldn't know didn't watch ore season for first time in 30 years ... fuck them
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THIS ^^^^^^^^^^ fukk them..hope they are all back to selling crack and flipping burgers in a few years. I sure as shit won't watch them
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What's the Difference between NFL Player's and Alex Jones? Both are FREEDOM OF SPEECH. While I don't agree with everything Alex Jones says I think his Right To FREEDOM OF SPEECH is being VIOLATED. NFL Player's should have the SAME FREEDOM without all the HATE. ..
 Quoting: TriniBadBoy


NFL players are employees. They can be fired, or, like happened last year, no one has to go to their stupid games, or watch them on TV. It was putting the NFL out of business. That’s a free world.

No one has to watch Alex Jones either. But they do. More than any MSM. The government, competitive media, and monopoly’s are trying to shut Alex Jones down.

If you don’t see the difference, then

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If NFL allows this....MORE EMPTY SEATS.

Ladies and gentlemen.....EMPTY SEATS and LOSS OF REVENUE attributed to this malarky is the ONLY way anyone will listen.

No other "argument" no matter how logical, emotional, OR RIGHT, will make a fucking bit of difference.

Tell all of your friends and spread the word. Not just "boycott NFL"--that's lame.

Just TURN AWAY. And ignore that whole industry.
 Quoting: RYFYRMAN91


That's just it, they dont seem to care about the loss of revenue!

You know the "end times" are near, when they are willing to "lose" money just to make a "social justice" statement, and willing to destroy the whole business.

Like all of those crappy SJW movies they keep coming out with, to pander to different factions of the SJW cause. (Ghostbusters -females, A Wrinkle in Time-girl children of color...etc etc...) They lose money horribly on these movies, but keep making them. They (NWO) feels the "social engineering" aspects of these movies are more important than making money. And who controls Hollywood and the media? Jewanna know?




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All I see is losers
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"Stand proudly for your National Anthem or be Suspended Without Pay!" The use and abuse of patriotism for demagoguery.
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Who cares? Nobody!
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That's just it, they dont seem to care about the loss of revenue!
 Quoting: Lacey Underall


That's because a lot of them fit the profile of "Limousine Liberal" or, more precisely, "Champagne Socialist."

They're similar to trust-fund babies who have enough socked away that they can play the game of cheap-ass virtue signaling, no questions asked or allowed.

The owner of the San Francisco 49ers sympathized with what Colin Kaepernick was trying to demonstrate out on the field. That didn't prevent Kaepernick from being let go, however, mainly because he wasn't a really good player.

If he were, I bet his former boss would have invited Kaepernick over to the team owner's mansion to talk about how they together could do a lot of social-justice warrioring against big, meanie, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, transgenderphoic, phobic-phobic patriotic Americans.



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Buy a pack of fuggum,we do not care
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Does anybody still pay to watch these steroid-shooting sub-humans and mongrels play a dumb kids game?
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What's a preseason, I don't watch NFL Thugball anymore.
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 Quoting: KOS-MOS


I am a sport agent here in Texas. The owners are allowing this, begging for this no less.

Why? Collective bargaining agreement with players is coming up. With massively lower ad revenues from networks, the owners can beat the players over the head and say "look what you idiots did" " Were gonna cut pay 40% from tv revenues to yall"

The following year after the agreement is signed, you can bet your ass that anyone kneeling will be run out of the league.

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This quote pisses me off:

"I just think it's important to keep this conversation going, that we don't let it get stagnant," Jenkins said after the game, according to NFL.com. "You know, as we understand it, everybody's kind of waiting to see what the league is going to do. ... It's just my personal decision to keep these things at the forefront."

Let what get stagnat? The racism stuff is beyond stagnat. What conversation needs to keep going? These people truly are vile, evil, annoying and too stupid to realized they are being used. Now they have Lebron and his mouth yapping and people are getting about sickc of it. I believe they truly won't be happy until blood (white blood) is spilled in the streets. They are fine with killing one another in Chicago, are they protesting that? No, what ARE they protesting? Do they even know? I doubt it.
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What's a preseason, I don't watch NFL Thugball anymore.
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I'd watch it more if they started shitting on the flag. the game itself is just too damn boring now. It's lost it's luster. Nothing like a good flag shitting show to boost ratings.
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I am a sport agent here in Texas. The owners are allowing this, begging for this no less.

Why? Collective bargaining agreement with players is coming up.
 Quoting: Exthalmus00



You know more than us outsiders, but I bet a lot of what you're attributing to money is actually due to apolitical types, certainly liberal types, and luke-warm conservative types in the NFL, particularity outright liberals like Roger Goodell, either not caring about the political protests or, even worse, appreciating them.

"We cruel, greedy, mean, cold-hearted Americans, even more so if we're white and wealthy, need our asses handed to us now and then."

Then they give big donations to groups like the Clinton Foundation or Southern Poverty Law Center, put on a big smile, and say, "see, we're nicey-nicey, huggy-huggy, lovingly tolerant, lovingly non-racist, lovingly non-homophobic."

Before you know it such idiots come around to saying things like, "Mao Tse-tung wasn't all that bad and inhumane. After all, weren't his intentions lovey-dovey?"

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 Quoting: KOS-MOS


I hope that they will use their national media exposure to give attention to the plight of the many good, innocent victims of the violence in places like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, and my home of Southern Maryland, just south of DC. Yesterday there was a murder/suicide in Bowie and a double shooting with 1 dead right here in Waldorf. No place is immune to the violence anymore. We can all do better. We must find a way to make this work. Even though I am not a big contributor to the violence what can I do to help?? We all have to figure out what ways we can help the world become a better place. It's terrible to watch the news covering a place like Chicago and think of all the good people living there who cannot leave their house at night, and the innocent victims of drive by shootings. I hope the Federal Government does something to try to stop this because Colin Kapernick won't be telling anyone about it.
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This quote pisses me off:

"I just think it's important to keep this conversation going, that we don't let it get stagnant," Jenkins said after the game, according to NFL.com. "You know, as we understand it, everybody's kind of waiting to see what the league is going to do. ... It's just my personal decision to keep these things at the forefront."

Let what get stagnat? The racism stuff is beyond stagnat. What conversation needs to keep going? These people truly are vile, evil, annoying and too stupid to realized they are being used. Now they have Lebron and his mouth yapping and people are getting about sickc of it. I believe they truly won't be happy until blood (white blood) is spilled in the streets. They are fine with killing one another in Chicago, are they protesting that? No, what ARE they protesting? Do they even know? I doubt it.
 Quoting: R+


they have no goal and no goal would ever be complete to their satisfaction if they did.

they are getting away with blatant racism (the fists) because they can and they know if anyone who doesn't like it speaks up about it, they'll just yell louder. it's that way with literally any race issue.

nothing will EVER be enough to "solve" any problem to them, so what's the point in even beginning the conversation when they start it so negatively and racist.
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What's the Difference between NFL Player's and Alex Jones? Both are FREEDOM OF SPEECH. While I don't agree with everything Alex Jones says I think his Right To FREEDOM OF SPEECH is being VIOLATED. NFL Player's should have the SAME FREEDOM without all the HATE. ..
 Quoting: TriniBadBoy


there has to be a line drawn. Personally three things should be hands off for protest: Flag, National anthem and Constitution. Everything else is fair game.
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What's the Difference between NFL Player's and Alex Jones? Both are FREEDOM OF SPEECH. While I don't agree with everything Alex Jones says I think his Right To FREEDOM OF SPEECH is being VIOLATED. NFL Player's should have the SAME FREEDOM without all the HATE. ..
 Quoting: TriniBadBoy


While I agree about the whole aspect of freedom of speech, you're overlooking one very key element here - The players are employees of the NFL, you do not have freedom of speech at work.

Imagine that you're at work, and you decide to piss off your customer base by voicing your opinion about things, whether it be political or religious or something else altogether.

Your boss would fire you so quickly for losing customers, some of which that may never return.

The same thing should happen here, fire every last one of them. It won't happen, so I'm no longer going to watch a bunch of over paid retards play with balls for a living.

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COLIN KAEPERNICK'S LEMMINGS can follow him off the cliff and take the rest of the NFL byekitty
 Quoting: Zero Chaos


You stupid old farts, newsflash: before 9/11 scam they stayed in during the anthem. Then the NFL started charging our DOD for their bs propaganda. So, snowflakes, walk your flag waving asses away. NFL will survive and thrive with gambling. Pout and shout, bluster and bloviate. The brothers are gonna knell while you squeal and that be the deal, Trumphumpers
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Had no idea preseason already started... no matter, won't be watching at all this year, just like last year.
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Same here. I used to be a Broncos fan. No more!
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What's a preseason, I don't watch NFL Thugball anymore.
 Quoting: Jumpin Jack


I'd watch it more if they started shitting on the flag. the game itself is just too damn boring now. It's lost it's luster. Nothing like a good flag shitting show to boost ratings.
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 Quoting: Bikeride


Maybe Trump, Gingrich, Cheney, and all GOP Warhawks that had multiple deferments could be running the field’s perimeter with large old glories. No walking, recon shuffle. Then we could have Josh Norman and Richard Sherman breakdance and then crap on a large, unfurled, flag at midfield. Then allow all flag wavers the right to voice their objections! I would pay to see Bonespurs recon shuffle while carrying old glory. He would be able to taunt, not tweet!
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COLIN KAEPERNICK'S LEMMINGS can follow him off the cliff and take the rest of the NFL byekitty
 Quoting: Zero Chaos


You stupid old farts, newsflash: before 9/11 scam they stayed in during the anthem. Then the NFL started charging our DOD for their bs propaganda. So, snowflakes, walk your flag waving asses away. NFL will survive and thrive with gambling. Pout and shout, bluster and bloviate. The brothers are gonna knell while you squeal and that be the deal, Trumphumpers
 Quoting: Cha8


So, retarded brain-washed youngster, tell me again what flippin year 9/11 happened? 'Cause, according to your liberal revisionist history, it apparently happened prior to 1980.

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Well, it's over folks. The final nail - NFL officially suicided itself.



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Like Trump said...

Get that son of a bitch off the field.

You're FIRED!
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WHEN DOES THE BS EVER END?

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COLIN KAEPERNICK'S LEMMINGS can follow him off the cliff and take the rest of the NFL byekitty
 Quoting: Zero Chaos


You stupid old farts, newsflash: before 9/11 scam they stayed in during the anthem. Then the NFL started charging our DOD for their bs propaganda. So, snowflakes, walk your flag waving asses away. NFL will survive and thrive with gambling. Pout and shout, bluster and bloviate. The brothers are gonna knell while you squeal and that be the deal, Trumphumpers
 Quoting: Cha8


Here ^^^ is a perfect example of what needs to be eradicated from this country.

Young, ignorant, uppity shitbaggery.
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 Quoting: KOS-MOS


Why don't these idiots get out and see exactly what is going on not what the media is telling them? Get into the neighborhoods talk to people? Nah never mind that would be actually work and not Virtue Signalling